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erieangel -> Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/20/2011 8:58:04 PM)
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/683679/senators_have_a_choice%3A_create_jobs_or_shield_wealthy_from_tiny_tax_increase/#paragraph3 Who wants to bet, these facts don't matter to Republican or blue dog Democrats?

FirmhandKY -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/20/2011 9:06:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/683679/senators_have_a_choice%3A_create_jobs_or_shield_wealthy_from_tiny_tax_increase/#paragraph3 Who wants to bet, these facts don't matter to Republican or blue dog Democrats? erie ... it depends on how you believe the world works. Personally, I believe that the entire "Obama jobs bill" of half a trillion dollars will do nothing but make the coming crash nothing but worse. Firm

subrob1967 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/20/2011 9:12:55 PM)
FR 3.6 Trillion already spent this year, do you really think another five hundred billion is going to magically create all these jobs? Obama's "jobs bill" is nothing but another Union payoff for his election, and continuing support in 12

Edwynn -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/20/2011 11:24:34 PM)
Well yeah, that "tax cuts and deregulation creates jobs" mantra really worked, didn't it? So, we've had all of that, and here we are, 8 million jobs in the hole, record debt to pay for wars and bailouts, 3 years and counting into the resulting recession which is not going away anytime soon ... And after you wreck the car, you can now blame the tow truck driver and mechanic for it. Sorry you twits, but nobody's going for that one, delude yourself all you like.

Masta808 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 12:00:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/683679/senators_have_a_choice%3A_create_jobs_or_shield_wealthy_from_tiny_tax_increase/#paragraph3 Who wants to bet, these facts don't matter to Republican or blue dog Democrats? erie ... it depends on how you believe the world works. Personally, I believe that the entire "Obama jobs bill" of half a trillion dollars will do nothing but make the coming crash nothing but worse. Firm Of course it will fail. Firm must be right, look his postings on Herman Cain's 999. It doesnt matter if you dont have the facts to back it up but believing it will fail is better than having facts. Its like believing in Jesus and God.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 6:11:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Masta808 quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/683679/senators_have_a_choice%3A_create_jobs_or_shield_wealthy_from_tiny_tax_increase/#paragraph3 Who wants to bet, these facts don't matter to Republican or blue dog Democrats? erie ... it depends on how you believe the world works. Personally, I believe that the entire "Obama jobs bill" of half a trillion dollars will do nothing but make the coming crash nothing but worse. Of course it will fail. Firm must be right, look his postings on Herman Cain's 999. It doesnt matter if you dont have the facts to back it up but believing it will fail is better than having facts. Its like believing in Jesus and God. You see what I mean by "childish" Masta? You are now trying your "complaint" and "demand for an answer" (which I've already given) to an entirely different thread. Erie made a statement of opinion, and I made a statement of opinion. Now you come here and try to incite me. You are nothing more than a shit-stirrer, and you can't stand that you can't "get my goat". But keep tryin' if'n ya want. [;)] You are somewhat entertaining to fuck with, for now. Firm

subrob1967 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 7:10:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Well yeah, that "tax cuts and deregulation creates jobs" mantra really worked, didn't it? So, we've had all of that, and here we are, 8 million jobs in the hole, record debt to pay for wars and bailouts, 3 years and counting into the resulting recession which is not going away anytime soon ... And after you wreck the car, you can now blame the tow truck driver and mechanic for it. Sorry you twits, but nobody's going for that one, delude yourself all you like. Ain't it funny how that recession started on the Democrat's watch, and has only gotten worse? Nice try... Really You guys have been in charge of the $ since 06, recession started in 08 according to you, man the fuck up and admit the left is bankrupting the country!

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 7:27:17 AM)
FR The name in the link is a false dichotomy. Present a real issue and then it can be discussed.

Masta808 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 3:33:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Masta808 quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/683679/senators_have_a_choice%3A_create_jobs_or_shield_wealthy_from_tiny_tax_increase/#paragraph3 Who wants to bet, these facts don't matter to Republican or blue dog Democrats? erie ... it depends on how you believe the world works. Personally, I believe that the entire "Obama jobs bill" of half a trillion dollars will do nothing but make the coming crash nothing but worse. Of course it will fail. Firm must be right, look his postings on Herman Cain's 999. It doesnt matter if you dont have the facts to back it up but believing it will fail is better than having facts. Its like believing in Jesus and God. You see what I mean by "childish" Masta? You are now trying your "complaint" and "demand for an answer" (which I've already given) to an entirely different thread. Erie made a statement of opinion, and I made a statement of opinion. Now you come here and try to incite me. You are nothing more than a shit-stirrer, and you can't stand that you can't "get my goat". But keep tryin' if'n ya want. [;)] You are somewhat entertaining to fuck with, for now. Firm Yes because using your own statements against you is childish. When you grow up and stop act like a 2 year old the rest of adults will be waiting.

Nosathro -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 4:04:22 PM)
Well the government seem to have no problem in giving a start up over 500 billion to creat a factory to build electric cars, the company open up in Finland.

Masta808 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 6:28:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Well the government seem to have no problem in giving a start up over 500 billion to creat a factory to build electric cars, the company open up in Finland. Well what do you want the government to do? Force the business to keep the jobs in America? Thats is Anti-Capitalist, Anti-Business, and Anti-Free Market. What the government should have done isnt NOT to subsidies anything at all. NO oil, NO Farm, NO small business, NO Road, No Defense, NO Housing, NO energy, No Health, No Science, No Religious, NO art subsidies at all.

Politesub53 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 6:32:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Well yeah, that "tax cuts and deregulation creates jobs" mantra really worked, didn't it? So, we've had all of that, and here we are, 8 million jobs in the hole, record debt to pay for wars and bailouts, 3 years and counting into the resulting recession which is not going away anytime soon ... And after you wreck the car, you can now blame the tow truck driver and mechanic for it. Sorry you twits, but nobody's going for that one, delude yourself all you like. Ain't it funny how that recession started on the Democrat's watch, and has only gotten worse? Nice try... Really You guys have been in charge of the $ since 06, recession started in 08 according to you, man the fuck up and admit the left is bankrupting the country! Are you brain dead ? Bush was president in 2008 last time I looked.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 7:07:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Well yeah, that "tax cuts and deregulation creates jobs" mantra really worked, didn't it? So, we've had all of that, and here we are, 8 million jobs in the hole, record debt to pay for wars and bailouts, 3 years and counting into the resulting recession which is not going away anytime soon ... And after you wreck the car, you can now blame the tow truck driver and mechanic for it. Sorry you twits, but nobody's going for that one, delude yourself all you like. Ain't it funny how that recession started on the Democrat's watch, and has only gotten worse? Nice try... Really You guys have been in charge of the $ since 06, recession started in 08 according to you, man the fuck up and admit the left is bankrupting the country! Are you brain dead ? Bush was president in 2008 last time I looked. Are you incapable of reading? Let me translate for you in 3rd grade terms you might understand: The Democratic Party controlled both Houses when the country went into recession.

Masta808 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 7:13:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Well yeah, that "tax cuts and deregulation creates jobs" mantra really worked, didn't it? So, we've had all of that, and here we are, 8 million jobs in the hole, record debt to pay for wars and bailouts, 3 years and counting into the resulting recession which is not going away anytime soon ... And after you wreck the car, you can now blame the tow truck driver and mechanic for it. Sorry you twits, but nobody's going for that one, delude yourself all you like. Ain't it funny how that recession started on the Democrat's watch, and has only gotten worse? Nice try... Really You guys have been in charge of the $ since 06, recession started in 08 according to you, man the fuck up and admit the left is bankrupting the country! Are you brain dead ? Bush was president in 2008 last time I looked. Are you incapable of reading? Let me translate for you in 3rd grade terms you might understand: The Democratic Party controlled both Houses when the country went into recession. Exactly thats why its Obama fault for everything. It doesnt matter that the Republicans have controlled the house for the last 2 years.

Politesub53 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 7:20:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Are you incapable of reading? Let me translate for you in 3rd grade terms you might understand: The Democratic Party controlled both Houses when the country went into recession. What a hypocrite you are. you blame Obama for everything, since he is President, yet give Bush and co a free pass claiming he didnt control both houses. Your transparency is as transparent as your stupidity.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/21/2011 7:28:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Are you incapable of reading? Let me translate for you in 3rd grade terms you might understand: The Democratic Party controlled both Houses when the country went into recession. What a hypocrite you are. you blame Obama for everything, since he is President, yet give Bush and co a free pass claiming he didnt control both houses. Your transparency is as transparent as your stupidity. I have never given Bush a free pass for anything. Your lying is as laughable as your reading comprehension.

erieangel -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/22/2011 2:52:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Well the government seem to have no problem in giving a start up over 500 billion to creat a factory to build electric cars, the company open up in Finland. The government didn't that car company $500 billion; what the company got was a government-gauranteed loan. There is a huge difference.

subrob1967 -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/22/2011 7:03:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Are you brain dead ? Bush was president in 2008 last time I looked. Apparently they don't teach you American Civics with your tea and biscuits... The President doesn't write the checks, Congress does. The Democrats have been writing the checks from 2006 until 2011 Why do you think Obama is running around looking like a moron yelling "Pass this bill!"? According to you he could just whip out that oversize checkbook and use that oversize pen to fill in all those zeros he so loves.

rulemylife -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/22/2011 7:48:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/683679/senators_have_a_choice%3A_create_jobs_or_shield_wealthy_from_tiny_tax_increase/#paragraph3 Who wants to bet, these facts don't matter to Republican or blue dog Democrats? erie ... it depends on how you believe the world works. Personally, I believe that the entire "Obama jobs bill" of half a trillion dollars will do nothing but make the coming crash nothing but worse. Firm So you complain of the high unemplyment rate and then slam a program to reduce unemployment. Let's face the startling reality here Firm, you and other Republicans will oppose anything this President does, whether it is a good plan or not.

tazzygirl -> RE: Nice choice for lawmakers...they will make the wrong one!! (10/22/2011 12:10:45 PM)
quote: Ain't it funny how that recession started on the Democrat's watch, and has only gotten worse? Nice try... Really You guys have been in charge of the $ since 06, recession started in 08 according to you, man the fuck up and admit the left is bankrupting the country! The first rumblings occured in 2007 when Lehman sold off BNC. As early as July,2007, there were rumors that Lehman would take a writedown because of their subprime lending... rumors everyone denied. http://www.cnbc.com/id/19831204 quote: The Democrats have been writing the checks from 2006 until 2011 Make that 2007. You are off by a year. And this is why that is significant. If housing demand remained strong -- as it did during the housing-market boom -- everyone was happy. You never worried about a rising mortgage payment, because you could easily sell your house quickly and profitability. Subprime lenders, meanwhile, experienced artificially low default rates relative to borrowers' creditworthiness. This operating environment allowed the likes of Accredited Home Lenders Holding (Nasdaq: LEND ) , Fremont General (NYSE: FMT ) , and New Century Financial to become the darlings of the day. Accredited shot up from just below $10 a share in 2003 to more than $50 a share in 2006. http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2007/07/10/the-skinny-on-subprime.aspx Under the Republican controlled Congress businesses such as these saw increased earnings, increased share values.... Im not saying the Democrats didnt have a hand in all this. But, again, blaming one side when both were involved just shows your ability to only see the politics, and your lack of ability to utilize your intelligence.

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