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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 11:33:45 AM   
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Sanity and Wilbur seem to lie just to prove a point. The Iraqi prime minister wanted US troops to stay as trainers on the US equipment bought by Iraq. the stumbling block, as Ron said, was the subject of immunity.

"We are heading toward securing trainers and experts for the American weapons we purchased, but without immunity and without going to parliament."

Anyone who needs to verify the quote can google it in ten seconds.

There we have it, straight from the horses mouth. Iraq has purchased American goods, thereby creating American manufacturing jobs. They also want to have American troops showing them how to use them, thereby employing American troops.



So, you are one from a nation other than America, anyone over your way see anyone in America embarrassed other than wilbur and sanity?

How about some other nations of the globe?

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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 11:39:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cons would want our troops to face Iraq`s Sharia-based law system,wouldn`t they,knowing that eventually something would happen that would put our GI`s at risk.Fuck`n cowards!

Big brave neo-cons put them in harm`s way without proper equipment or armor for fucking years,so this isn`t surprising.

This is just more evidence of how cons would have continued fucking up and fucking our troops, if they were charge.

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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:03:32 PM   
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For the first time in decades, Iraqis face a future on their own, with neither Saddam Hussein's iron fist nor the United States' military might to hold them together. This has been both their dream and nightmare: They wanted American troops (the occupiers) to go, but they wanted American troops (the protectors) to stay.

Now many fear an increase in violence, growing Iranian influence and political turmoil after President Barack Obama's definitive announcement that all U.S. forces will leave by the end of the year.


Hmmmmm yep another instance he has no clue what he is talking about
NOTHING to do with not wanting them, EVERYTHING to do with Not wanting their people to be charged...Arent the forces pretty strong about their own being tried under military law? and not civvy? Is it different anywhere in the world?
why would it be different in iraq? Werent the abu grahib bunch tried by military not civvy courts? WHy would the defense department of the US or anywhere want their people to be tried in an iraqi court?
another big fat zero from the same, who couldnt get his fact straight if his life depended on it.



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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:06:15 PM   
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His ludicrous idea of 3000-5000 trainers is shot down by Iraq so he claims credit for withdrawing all of the troops. As the shiites assume dominance and align themselves with Iran the area is now even more threatening to us than ever. Prediction: They will withhold any overt action until after Ramadan 2012. Then all hell breaks loose.


He took a lesson from Bill Clinton, claim credit for everything, responsibility for nothing.


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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:10:59 PM   
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To face Sharia law in their courts,with the cousins and sisters and brothers of the plaintiff on the jury?

Big brave guy, aren`t ya?

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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:15:50 PM   
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This comes down to one simple answer....The GOP can't live with a BLACK President who did in 3 years what the GOP could not do in 8.

Kill Bin ladin
end the war
and Gee..lets see 6 months ago they where just saying what a waste his decision on Libya was...

and now it worked...NO USA life lost...and Bush's stated terrorism leader dead...gee sucks to be you and you BS ideals


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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:18:20 PM   
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He took a lesson from Bill Clinton, claim credit for everything, responsibility for nothing.


Ahm still Smartin from Clinton
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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:20:06 PM   
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Big brave guy, aren`t ya?


Well HE or WillBe don't actually have to set foot over there.. So yeah... but it's that TV Remote Bravado


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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 12:30:09 PM   
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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 1:04:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Wilburwas a combat medic and war hero in Vietnam, though...




The veracity of that claim is being negotiated in diplomatic circles, and is causing quite an embarrassment, as well as his outing himself today finally that he is an intinerant insurance peddler.

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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 1:06:01 PM   
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Wilburwas a combat medic and war hero in Vietnam, though...


Brave 40 years ago doesn't mean you still have a set ... I will grant that he has more of a set than all but perhaps one of his 'conservative' colleagues here.
The three loudest go all girlyman on ya as soon as you start playing using THEIR rulebook.



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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 1:07:41 PM   
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The veracity of that claim is being negotiated in diplomatic circles, and is causing quite an embarrassment, as well as his outing himself today finally that he is an intinerant insurance peddler.


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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 1:18:37 PM   
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The veracity of that claim is being negotiated in diplomatic circles, and is causing quite an embarrassment, as well as his outing himself today finally that he is an intinerant insurance peddler.


Where did I miss that revelation?


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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 1:25:58 PM   
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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 1:40:00 PM   
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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 3:22:01 PM   
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Wilbur, Your sense of the ridiculous is obvious for all to see. Almost every article I have read by US commanders says the same as Hillwilliam.

Bush`s foray into iraq looking for WMD`s (unfound weapons of much distraction) led to the Taliban neing able to regroup and regain a foothold in Afghanistan. Now a question for you. If it was reversed, as you laughingly suggest, then wtf did Bush go after Bin Laden and not just drive straight to Baghdad ?

if you can be arsed to do a check, which you wont, most of those to the left of you posted all along that Bush was right to invade afghanistan and not Iraq, and here you are suggesting the opposite. It is no wonder your posts get ridiculed.


Every military analyst said that if bin Laden went to ground in the caves of Afghanistan there would be no way to extract him without tremendous loss of lives. It was a fucking waste of time from day one.


Then why didn't those military analysts tell this guy before he invaded Afghanistan?

USATODAY.com - Bush pledges to get bin Laden, dead or alive 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush pledged anew Friday that Osama bin Laden will be taken "dead or alive," no matter how long it takes, amid indications that the suspected terrorist may be bottled up in a rugged Afghan canyon. The president, in an Oval Office meeting with Thailand's prime minister, would not predict the timing of bin Laden's capture but said he doesn't care how the suspect is brought to justice. "I don't care, dead or alive — either way," Bush said. "It doesn't matter to me."

And while we are talking about it, how is that Obama managed to do, in his short time in office, what the tough-talking pretend cowboy could not accomplish in eight years?



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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 3:26:02 PM   
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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 4:14:21 PM   
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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 4:18:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Iraq rejects US plea to keep bases after withdrawal...

PM: Immunity deal scuttled troop stay...


You really never do read the articles you post, you just scan the headlines and post it if it seems to support your position.

And then you end up looking like a jackass when it doesn't.

From your second link:

In the eyes of Iraqis, the Americans were both the cause of those woes and the bulwark against them exploding. Many blame the 2003 U.S.-led invasion for unleashing all the demons kept bottled up by Saddam's dictatorship, and allowing new ones - like al-Qaida - to slip in.

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RE: LMAO. Oblama claims victory for diplomatic embarass... - 10/22/2011 4:34:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

His ludicrous idea of 3000-5000 trainers is shot down by Iraq so he claims credit for withdrawing all of the troops. As the shiites assume dominance and align themselves with Iran the area is now even more threatening to us than ever. Prediction: They will withhold any overt action until after Ramadan 2012. Then all hell breaks loose.


He took a lesson from Bill Clinton, claim credit for everything, responsibility for nothing.



Would that be anything like you claiming credit for being an Independent while you continually bash every Democrat?

Conservative hypocrisy at its finest.






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