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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 8:56:40 PM   
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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 8:59:45 PM   
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Where is the sport in that?

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:03:47 PM   
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Nice deflection try there boy. Ya got caught trying to use one of the oldest tactics in the book. deal with it.


Well girl, since you started all this idiocy with your comment on septic smells, I guess I'll have to give credit where credit is due.

I think if you scroll back to good ol' page 13, you'll see that your post pretty much started all this. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:05:48 PM   
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Yeah,but way too easy...like shooting fish in a barrel.
Where is the sport in that?

I was floating the river last sunday and found a small riffle full of trout. Caught 35 in 2 hours. It was almost too easy. Did I quit? Not until I had to get back in the boat and get my ass down the river so I could get to the landing before dark. Running a river in the dark is no fucking fun.

Moral. Sometimes easy is very damn good.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:06:32 PM   
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Misogynistic much ?


Ummm no shit? Hey, if not being like every other pussy-whipped man quickly filling this nation (especially the so-called submissive ones) makes me a misogynist, then I wear the title proudly.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:07:27 PM   
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Nice deflection try there boy. Ya got caught trying to use one of the oldest tactics in the book. deal with it.


Well girl, since you started all this idiocy with your comment on septic smells, I guess I'll have to give credit where credit is due.

I think if you scroll back to good ol' page 13, you'll see that your post pretty much started all this. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.


Oh goodie. it's back to play.

Any more debate or are you just gonna sit there like a 12 year old with your lower lip pooched out?

How do you feel about the situation in NYC and why do you think people would protect those who bring dishonor upon their entire profession?


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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:10:33 PM   
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Any more debate or are you just gonna sit there like a 12 year old with your lower lip pooched out?


LoL I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum over "names."

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
How do you feel about the situation in NYC and why do you think people would protect those who bring dishonor upon their entire profession?


You can keep asking this, but until you successfully show how it is relevant, you're not going to get an answer. You could always start a new thread, but the fact that I had to suggest that tells me you won't.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:20:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's already a thread on it but I brought it up here first. It is relevant because you feel there is no thin blue line.

You claim it isn't relevant because it shows you're full of shit.

You feel everyone acted perfectly and no way was a policeman acting improperly.

I say bullshit to both and offer proof of the line's existence. I also submit that evidence where it exists of a policeman improperly discharging his weapon in contraindication of department policy will never see the light of day because of that.

I have offered ample evidence that this entire op was fucked up by the numbers from top to bottom and you deny it.

I have offered ample evidence that the department lied about munitions used.

Hell, they didn't even tell the mayor who is their boss.

You have offered nothing but calling a marine who hasn't even been accused of so much as jaywalking a "Scumbag".

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:30:26 PM   
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There's already a thread on it but I brought it up here first. It is relevant because you feel there is no thin blue line.


It's not relevant because that's not what this thread is about. You cannot bash the Oakland cop and call him incompetent or a criminal based on something that happened on the other side of the country. You have to look at the facts of THIS case. You have to look at THIS officer and you have to consider the actions of THIS protester which precipitated THIS officer's actions.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
You claim it isn't relevant because it shows you're full of shit.


No, it shows that it's not relevant because the topic of this thread is not the "thin blue line."

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
You feel everyone acted perfectly and no way was a policeman acting improperly.


Wrong again. You've been saying this for several pages now. You can say it for several more pages, but that wont make it correct.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I say bullshit to both and offer proof of the line's existence. I also submit that evidence where it exists of a policeman improperly discharging his weapon in contraindication of department policy will never see the light of day because of that.


Never see the light of day? Seriously? That scene played out on every national network in the country. Exactly how much more "light" do you want? Want us to etch it into the moon's surface?

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You have offered nothing but calling a marine who hasn't even been accused of so much as jaywalking a "Scumbag".


Oh....I'm not entitled to my own opinion on a tatted up, pierced guy who goes against everything the Marines stand for? So....only your opinions count?

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/29/2011 9:45:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		The scene played out everywhere but noone can find any evidence yet of who fired the shot. Due to the number of cameras, it is a matter of time. The problem is that a lot of those cameras are city owned. My assertion is that any footage will be obtained by the authorities to cover the misdeeds if any that occurred. Someone fucked up by the numbers and noone will pay for it.

I love the way you say the officers are innocent until proven guilty but this marine is a dirtbag because of the way he looks. Fuckin hysterical. The smell of hypocricy is so thick you can barely see thru it.

You can say something is irrelevant all day long. I have only pointed and proven out that corruption and protectionism exists. Trust me, some of those guys I trained were barely literate thugs. No more, no less. I've known guys on Metro-Dade who no fucking way in HELL could pass a drug test. Hell, some of them were dealers. That's a major reason I decided not to join the department even though I was asked.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 1:13:41 AM   
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The law does not allow LEO's to use lethal force except when their lives or the lives of others is in imminent danger.


He wasn't using lethal force. Try again.

He wasn't? Then what almst killed Scott Olsen?

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 1:14:50 AM   
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Sorry DQ,but the hypocrisy ( or the smell of it anyway) is coming from your direction.Decrying a rush to judgement on this unknown policeman is one thing,but doing so while you hammer this marine as he lays in the hospital is the proverbial bridge too far.


You'd be correct if all the "evidence" presented thus far backed up what my detractors are saying. However, all the video "evidence" shows is that the Marine is clearly guilty of failure to comply, at the least. Which means, he is the criminal, not the cop.


Remember when Rosa Parks "failed to comply"? Was she wrong, too?

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 1:40:26 AM   
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I love the way you say the officers are innocent until proven guilty but this marine is a dirtbag because of the way he looks. Fuckin hysterical. The smell of hypocricy is so thick you can barely see thru it.


Being a dirtbag isn't a crime. Therefore innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply. I see the pic, I make a judgement call. Done. A crime is something that can send a person to jail, if convicted. Being a dirtbag just means the person is a dirtbag. Or don't you know the difference?

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You can say something is irrelevant all day long. I have only pointed and proven out that corruption and protectionism exists. Trust me, some of those guys I trained were barely literate thugs. No more, no less. I've known guys on Metro-Dade who no fucking way in HELL could pass a drug test. Hell, some of them were dealers. That's a major reason I decided not to join the department even though I was asked.


That's great. Doesn't mean they're all like that. Nor does it have bearing on the Oakland Police Officer.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 1:42:07 AM   
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He wasn't? Then what almst killed Scott Olsen?


An accident with a non-lethal or "less-lethal" round precipitated by his refusal to comply with police instruction.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 1:44:03 AM   
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Remember when Rosa Parks "failed to comply"? Was she wrong, too?


Wrong is subjective. She was, however, breaking the law. And she paid the consequence for it.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 8:13:02 AM   
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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 9:40:36 AM   
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Remember when Rosa Parks "failed to comply"? Was she wrong, too?


Wrong is subjective. She was, however, breaking the law. And she paid the consequence for it.
So you are an authoritarian. The "Law" is always sancrosanct. Is that your position?


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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 10:38:28 AM   
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He wasn't? Then what almst killed Scott Olsen?


An accident with a non-lethal or "less-lethal" round precipitated by his refusal to comply with police instruction.

You mean the LEO incorrectly used lethal force i.e. violated the law. BTW the law allows someone to refuse to comply with an illegal demand and the order to disburse was illegal.

OPD may try to whitewash it, as you have so poorly tried to do here, but the fact remains one of their officers fired a tear gas canister at a mans head from no more than 20 feet away in violation of numerous laws and police procedures.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 10:39:48 AM   
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Remember when Rosa Parks "failed to comply"? Was she wrong, too?


Wrong is subjective. She was, however, breaking the law. And she paid the consequence for it.


You know who else broke the law?

Jan Gies and Johannes Hendrik Voskuijl.

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RE: USMC joins #OWS after OPD takes a headshot at Marin... - 10/30/2011 11:09:19 AM   
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You mean the LEO incorrectly used lethal force i.e. violated the law. BTW the law allows someone to refuse to comply with an illegal demand and the order to disburse was illegal.

OPD may try to whitewash it, as you have so poorly tried to do here, but the fact remains one of their officers fired a tear gas canister at a mans head from no more than 20 feet away in violation of numerous laws and police procedures.


When policy states its to be fired only at the edge of the crowd.

Is it any wonder why the Mayor and the Chief are apologizing all over the place?

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