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Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and Beat... - 10/27/2011 6:17:20 PM   
FatDomDaddy


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Status: offline 		You folks do know, that most of these Urban Paradises are run by Liberal Democrats right... (Well... Liberal Democrat turned Republican in the case of Bloomberg)


I am sure there is a thread here about Mayor Jean Quan ordering the water hoses, rubber bullets and wood shampoo treatments right?

http://Well... Liberal Democrat turned Republican in the case of Bloomberg
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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:21:10 PM   
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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:27:38 PM   
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Why are asinine cons coming up with ridiculous retard comments/questions?



So...you support Mayor Jean Quan's tactics then?

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:29:30 PM   
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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:30:28 PM   
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Goddamn flip-floppers.

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:36:23 PM   
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oh I hate the smell of stinky strawmen in the evening


Well... if posters can use the entire United States Marine Corps to prove a point, I thought... well why not!

Soooo....Who's running Chicago these days?

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:40:59 PM   
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Thanx!

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:45:36 PM   
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But I would have thought YOU of all people would have jumped all over the jackboot Maoist thuggery on display via the Order Her Honor, Madame Quan.

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 6:51:30 PM   
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oh I hate the smell of stinky strawmen in the evening


Well... if posters can use the entire United States Marine Corps to prove a point, I thought... well why not!

Soooo....Who's running Chicago these days?


what makes you think he isnt part of the problem, its not a dem repub thing honey!
Emanuel while one of the nicer eye candy poppets in politics is still part of the bullshit, still part of the problem. I bet he has alll kinds of rich piggies moaning about keeping order or hes gonna end up in a bridge somewhere
you dont suffer many illusions...
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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 7:04:29 PM   
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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 7:28:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

You folks do know, that most of these Urban Paradises are run by Liberal Democrats right... (Well... Liberal Democrat turned Republican in the case of Bloomberg)


I am sure there is a thread here about Mayor Jean Quan ordering the water hoses, rubber bullets and wood shampoo treatments right?

http://Well... Liberal Democrat turned Republican in the case of Bloomberg



Because one of the things many-including you, evidently-don't seem to get about OWS is that it is a nonpartisan movement.  Our government is corrupt.  It isn't a dem/repub thing.  It isn't even a left/right thing...well it is a "right" thing, in that we want our elected to do what is right for the country.

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 7:46:53 PM   
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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:00:03 PM   
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jackboot Maoist
Oh my, but you do mix those metaphors boldly don't you?

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:01:47 PM   
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The sooner you quit trying to force everything into a dem/rep dichotomy the sooner the world will begin to make sense.




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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:08:10 PM   
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we want our elected to do what is right for the country.

And what might that be, precisely?

I ask because that's what everybody wants, but we don't seem able to agree on what it is.

In fact, about the only thing that everybody does seem to agree on is that the "other guy" is wrong.

So tell me, this is helping how?

K.

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:13:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thing is, most protesters don't know what the right thing to do is either.

We do know however that the banks got bailed out and the rest of America got sold out.  The citizens united decision put every politician up for sale like never before.  And that while the government goes about starting "democracy" around the world, our rights here at home have been eroded.  Need I go on?

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:13:54 PM   
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Soooo....Who's running Chicago these days?

A right wing plutocrat

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:19:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Epytropos

The sooner you quit trying to force everything into a dem/rep dichotomy the sooner the world will begin to make sense.




The dichotomy is bankster/victim.

After that and then do the different parties come in, according to who`s work`n for who.

We know where the con`s symathys lay and we know where the dem`s sympathys are.

One party is with wallstreet and the banksters and one is with the little guy who`s been hurt most,the victims.

Why are you cons for instance, so against Elizabeth Warren?

See? There,is the dichotomy......bankster and bankster supporter,....... against banker victim and bankster-victim sympathizers.

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:22:04 PM   
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I ask because that's what everybody wants, but we don't seem able to agree on what it is.

In fact, about the only thing that everybody does seem to agree on is that the "other guy" is wrong.

So tell me, this is helping how?

K.


Well see, Step #1 is finding common ground.

My memory isn't the greatest, but the one thing I very distinctly remember coming from what would later become known as the tea party was the extensive patronage and governmental corruption between corporations and the federal government -- executive and legislative branches. The very first thing the people that would later become the founders of the tea party did -- which back then it was mostly right-leaning, moderate discontents and Ron Paul supporters -- was very loudly protest the bailouts. Remember the first two to three months of the Obama administration, when the chief complaint against the new administration was the appointments of Eric Holdier, Timothy Geithner, and the retention of Ben Bernanke? Why was that, again?

Skip forward to mid-2009, after Fox News, FreedomWorks, and AFP got hold of the tea party, and all of that dialogue and complaint had not only disappeared but been scrubbed completely from the tea party's list of grievances. Now, why is that? Skip forward another half year when Citizens United was handed down, which was an opinion the tea party for all its claimed populist roots should have been absolutely incensed over, and the dialog was they were not only pleased with the decision but cheering it! Strange.

My point is, and the reason I single out the tea party for this, is that one thing everyone should agree upon is that government should be equally representative, and not beholden to one faction or set of interests at the cost of ignoring the voice of the people. Ridding the federal government of corporate infiltration and influence -- be it patronage, lobbies, regulatory capture, whatever -- due to the hold the ultra-wealthy and corporations have on government and both parties, should be something everyone not in that "insider club" so to speak should aspire to effect.

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RE: Why Are Elected Democrats Politicians Shooting and ... - 10/27/2011 8:30:27 PM   
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Thing is, most protesters don't know what the right thing to do is either.

We do know however that the banks got bailed out and the rest of America got sold out. The citizens united decision put every politician up for sale like never before. And that while the government goes about starting "democracy" around the world, our rights here at home have been eroded. Need I go on?

No, you don't have to go on, I think that sums it up nicely.

So here's an idea. Protest the legal fiction that corporations are "persons" with any of the rights attendant thereto.

If corporations want to influence legislation, let them have to convince the electorate to call their Congressmen because what they're asking for is good for the country, instead of cutting the People out of the loop by sending suits down to Washington with bags full of money.

Because except in fucking Wonderland, a corporation isn't a "person" and bribery is still bribery.

I'd camp out for that one. With or without a bong.

K.



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