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HannahLynn -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 12:24:16 PM)

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Here is what he "actually" said:
no it isn't. here is what he actually said on the subject:
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2. The company almost openly encourages fraternization as long as it's not with a supervisor.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3900305
what you quoted was an example of why he said they "ALMOST" encourage it. like i said, pay fucking attention.

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Unlike you, I live in the real world and have worked for actual companies that have policies on things.
so have i, and his fucking company's policy obviously allows it, again, pay fucking attention.

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I've also been around long enough to know that people easily see a video with co-workers dating and jump to the idea it is "encouraged."
and i've been around long enough to know that people like you simply cannot accept that things are not the way they think they are in their narrow little world views.

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The OP's "evidence" that she might be submissive
that wasn't what i was talking about, so again, pay fucking attention.

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so she is deferring to him for that direction
have you talked to her and asked her? if not then stop informing us what she fucking thinks.

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Yet, we all have told him to get to know her
which is what i fucking told him to do.

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Yet, we all have told him to get to know her and lay off the whole detective search to determine if she is submissive. That if after getting to actually know her, finds she is more than just his physical type, to go ahead and date her as per company policy.
really?
that's fucking odd i could have sworn i saw the following bullshit posted:

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Oh and, it may be a good idea to not complicate your workplace by striking a relationship with a co-worker. 
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Think with the big head and not the little one when it comes to getting your honey where you get your money.
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Workplace romances often get very complicated. Are you prepared to change jobs if it goes badly, or even if it goes well? It is just not an ideal situation.
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Workplace romances are difficult under the best of circumstances. Add a little kink to the mix, and it could literally be unemployment waiting to happen.
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If both of you think that you would like to take it further, one of you should just look for a new position before starting.
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you ever heard the saying "You don't fuck where you eat"?
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And imo, you don't date where you work. It becomes complicated and messy.
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I do not think it is ever a good idea to date a coworker.
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Coworker = bad idea.
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you dont lose your job/sabotage your career on top of it all.
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Take a chance on a relationship, sure. Take a chance on a job, sure. Take a chance on a relationship with someone at your job? In this economy, losing a job isn't worth the risk.
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There is also always the possibility that should they break up, she may not want to have to see him everyday, and report to managers that it is a problem.
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Most have no desire to lose their jobs

But if the guy doesn't mind looking for another job then go for it!
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it possibly could. I've worked at jobs where women had men fired for sexual harassment for that very same thing. He flirted with her at work, she would make small gestures to show she wasn't interested, he'd not catch on, he'd finally ask her out, she'd say no, he'd continue to bother her about it, she'd still say no till it got to a point where she had to file charges with HR.

I've also had a woman at my last job who had an attorney almost disbarred for simply asking her out. She didn't like the attorney. No other reason.
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no company encourages their employees to hook up, the odds of it making the workplace and emotional nightmare are too high.

seems to me that a fuck of a lot of people, yourself included, have been telling him the exact fucking opposite. so take your arguments and shove them right back up where you got them.

you know, i've heard of being into anal play, but christ on a cupcake woman, doesn't your asshole get sore with you pulling so much out of it all day long?







agirl -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 1:10:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynn



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Oh and, it may be a good idea to not complicate your workplace by striking a relationship with a co-worker. 
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Think with the big head and not the little one when it comes to getting your honey where you get your money.
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Workplace romances often get very complicated. Are you prepared to change jobs if it goes badly, or even if it goes well? It is just not an ideal situation.
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Workplace romances are difficult under the best of circumstances. Add a little kink to the mix, and it could literally be unemployment waiting to happen.
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If both of you think that you would like to take it further, one of you should just look for a new position before starting.
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you ever heard the saying "You don't fuck where you eat"?
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And imo, you don't date where you work. It becomes complicated and messy.
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I do not think it is ever a good idea to date a coworker.
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Coworker = bad idea.
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you dont lose your job/sabotage your career on top of it all.
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Take a chance on a relationship, sure. Take a chance on a job, sure. Take a chance on a relationship with someone at your job? In this economy, losing a job isn't worth the risk.
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There is also always the possibility that should they break up, she may not want to have to see him everyday, and report to managers that it is a problem.
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Most have no desire to lose their jobs

But if the guy doesn't mind looking for another job then go for it!
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it possibly could. I've worked at jobs where women had men fired for sexual harassment for that very same thing. He flirted with her at work, she would make small gestures to show she wasn't interested, he'd not catch on, he'd finally ask her out, she'd say no, he'd continue to bother her about it, she'd still say no till it got to a point where she had to file charges with HR.

I've also had a woman at my last job who had an attorney almost disbarred for simply asking her out. She didn't like the attorney. No other reason.
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no company encourages their employees to hook up, the odds of it making the workplace and emotional nightmare are too high.




I'm surprised to see such negative responses considering the work place is consistantly considered one of the top places to meet a partner.

I agree with Hannah, possibly because I know quite a few people that work alongside their husbands/wives, boyfriends and girlfriends. They seem to manage to conduct themselves perfectly appropriately.

Also, it's possible for one or the other to change jobs if they decide they'd rather not work so closely.

agirl






HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 3:06:43 PM)

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I'm surprised to see such negative responses considering the work place is consistantly considered one of the top places to meet a partner.
I'm not really, most of those remarks come from Americans and people living in America, and not to be rude or anything, but the U.S. is a very weird country and the people there are really weird as well. Despite all the similarities and the cultural dominance of the U.S., they really are not like us at all, they have a very, very different way of thinking. In all honesty, I find them much more "foreign" than people from the U.K. or Australia, or even other western Europeans I have talked to for that matter.




Sherrr -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 3:10:39 PM)

The workplace can be a good place to meet a partner. However, it's typically considered very, very risky to date someone you work in close proximity with. I refuse to believe that this concept does not transcend cultures. From New York to New South Wales, I think people prefer to be able to avoid someone they don't want to see anymore.




Sherrr -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 3:36:29 PM)

For all you know, I'm from there.




tj444 -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 3:40:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather
I'm not really, most of those remarks come from Americans and people living in America, and not to be rude or anything, but the U.S. is a very weird country and the people there are really weird as well. Despite all the similarities and the cultural dominance of the U.S., they really are not like us at all, they have a very, very different way of thinking. In all honesty, I find them much more "foreign" than people from the U.K. or Australia, or even other western Europeans I have talked to for that matter.

I dont know much about Australia but yes, Canada does have a very different way of thinking than the US does, we have kept our British influence which is why we are more similar to the Brits than the Yanks. Our different culture also explains why Canada and the UK have a lower crime rate than the US, amoung other differences..




Sherrr -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 3:41:33 PM)

Oh dear god, let's not go there.




HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 3:57:41 PM)

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For all you know, I'm from there.
But you're not.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 5:21:17 PM)

Did the OP ever come back and say anything? Because I am curious to know if they went out, or if she's just to sheltered to ponder the concept.

I never thought of Canadians as weird, just different. Growing up across the border, watching Canadian TV, listening to their radio and news, it's just another country formed on different principles with an entirely different culture.

Not unlike, say, MEXICO. Why should our countries be alike, just because our languages are similar?

Speaking from the viewpoint of someone who got her first job in the late 70's, the workplace has changed pretty dramatically, and not always in good ways. For a good fifteen years or so, there was all manner of stress about sexual harassmet and how to avoid it. We made a special point of harassing the mens, who were very pleased. (said harassment consisted of complimenting them on their choice of tie. yeah, that counted, then) I think that the culture has been more internalized now, and there is a great deal of paranoia. Kids in SCHOOL are even accused of sexual harassment. It's crazy.





NakedHouseboy00 -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 5:25:19 PM)

Never sh*t where you eat.




Endivius -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/29/2011 5:53:55 PM)

There is nothing wrong with dating a co-worker provided you or she is not a direct supervisor. I have worked several jobs, and including the armed forces; where fraternization is perfectly acceptable, provided the romancing is done off the clock and not between a supervisor and subordinant. I am certain there are proffessions where this is frowned upon. However, the OP has allready stated that the company is fully aware of fraternization and approves of it as long as certain guidelines are adhered to.


As for her being submissive because she called you "sir" and gets your input and direction on office related tasks, I'd say you are reading too much into it. As someone above stated, it is normal for a younger person to address an elder with sir or m'am. At best, this simply indicates that she has a certain level of comfort with you, and values your opinion and direction on a proffesional level. If you want to expand on this into a romantic level, ask her out and go from there. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions because someone is being polite and proffesional.




slaveluci -> RE: Coworker may unknowingly be submissive (10/30/2011 2:42:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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I'm surprised to see such negative responses considering the work place is consistantly considered one of the top places to meet a partner.
I'm not really, most of those remarks come from Americans and people living in America, and not to be rude or anything, but the U.S. is a very weird country and the people there are really weird as well. Despite all the similarities and the cultural dominance of the U.S., they really are not like us at all, they have a very, very different way of thinking. In all honesty, I find them much more "foreign" than people from the U.K. or Australia, or even other western Europeans I have talked to for that matter.

So not being "like" you "at all" and having a "very, very different way of thinking" makes a whole nation full of individuals "weird?" That comment isn't "rude." It's just ignorant.

luci




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