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pahunkboy -> Drinking water question (5/25/2006 2:50:52 PM)

Right now- and I mean NOW. How many ounces of drinking water have you drank today?  [coffee, soda, tea, juice do NOT count]

To figure out- ---correct amount.  Divide you weight by 2. If you weight 100 lbs- you should consumer 50 ounces of water in a day.

80% of America is dehydrated, and sickly- over time- needs meds---   

Spill it. How many ounces.



http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/water101/




mnottertail -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 2:52:22 PM)

This is largely disputed.

Ron

but around 40 or more




gooddogbenji -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 2:58:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Right now- and I mean NOW. How many ounces of drinking water have you drank today?  [coffee, soda, tea, juice do NOT count]

To figure out- ---correct amount.  Divide you weight by 2. If you weight 100 lbs- you should consumer 50 ounces of water in a day.

80% of America is dehydrated, and sickly- over time- needs meds---   

Spill it. How many ounces.



About 6 pints of beer, 26 oz rye, and a glass of milk with breakfast. (all not on your "axis of evil")

But seriously, why does juice not count?  Or soda (I assume that's pop, or soft drinks)

Granted, these have calories, but do they not also contain water?  Herbal teas don't count either?  I am really curious.  I was gonna look on the website, but the side scrolling side scrollers made me noggin hurt.  Must be from dehydration.

Wow.  I don't think I've had an ounce of countable water in years.  Should that make me dead?

Yours,


benji







KatyLied -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 3:00:39 PM)

Not nearly enough.




pahunkboy -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 3:22:45 PM)

When soda was invented= its intent was around 12 oz a day. Not to be chugged all day long. Soda has a salt type of preservative in it. Cancelling out some cleansing effects. Teas can be beneficial. Coffee- does something to the adrenal system.

Each day- we are bombarded by foriegn matter in our body. Not may would jump into a hot tub full of pepsi- rub it on skin. If you would not rub it outside your skin/body- then you would not rub it inside the body.

I dont want to divert into the realm of health diet fads.

For thousands of years- fresh clean water- has served.

Poisens must be flushed from your body.

Over time- weather it is nervous sncking on junk food- to ease that crave- or a pill- much of this happens cause we dont heed moderation.

Look at some remote tribes- no tooth decay. glowing skin.

no medicuine cabinet full of pill...

By all means enjoy other beverages. Simpy tho- they do NOT replace fresh water.

hugs to all




juliaoceania -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 4:14:53 PM)

I drink about a gallon of water a day when it is hot. I work out and sweat a lot every day though. I try to be hydrated as it makes you feel good




smilezz -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 4:42:23 PM)

I go through 5 Gallons a week.........that's just at home.  If i had to take a guess at work........hmmmzz...perhaps 2-4 Gallons.

~smilezz~




feastie -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 5:50:31 PM)

Today I haven't had as much as usual.  I woke up with a migraine and water just tasted metallic.  I nursed a Sprite the rest of the afternoon, but I'm about to fill my 12 oz cup with water and try again.




fastlane -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 5:57:01 PM)

I'm of the mindset...eight glasses of water a day...and follow it religiously.
How else can watersports cum into play?
I P freely, Kevin




petwolf22 -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:01:02 PM)

hot tub full of pepsi?

sounds kinky




Littlepita -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:02:18 PM)

I found this on my diet site and thought it was very well written. I happen to love water, because I trained myself to like it after giving up a huge Pepsi addiction. I will pour in a little lemon juice occasionally to jazz it up. So far today I have gone through almost a gallon. I keep two gallon jugs in the fridge and make sure I go through one a day at least.


Many people on their road to weight loss do not realize the importance of drinking water. Water and weight loss are very closely intertwined and by not drinking enough water a person is losing out on a major dietary advantage to losing weight and keeping it off. Water allows for proper metabolizing of body fats. Drinking more water rids the body of water retention. Drinking water flushes the body of toxins, helps the organs to function properly and can help you to look younger and keep your skin, tight.

Metabolizing Fat:
There are many forms of metabolism going on within the body. Metabolizing fat is the function of the liver. The liver has other functions as well but metabolizing fat, converting stored fat to energy is its main function. The kidneys are dependant on water to function properly and efficiently. When the body does not get enough water the kidneys are not able to rid the body of toxins correctly and the liver steps up to help. When the liver is picking up slack for the kidneys the fat burning potential is degraded and in some cases shuts down completely. When the liver shuts down “fat to energy” conversion, the body will eventually start to store more fat. The overweight person needs more water then a lower weight individual due to the larger metabolic demands. Water helps rid the body of waste. During weight loss, the body has a lot more waste to get rid of - all that metabolized fat must be shed. And so adequate water helps flush out the waste left over from fat burning.

Water Retention:
When a person does not drink enough water the body reacts as if there is a drought. The body responds to the lack of water by storing any it does receive extra cellularly. Extra cellular storage results in water being store around the cells of the body. Which then causes swelling of the hands, ankles, feet and sometimes, the torso. When one begins to drink enough water, the body then perceives this as a normal situation and begins to slough the extra cellular water retention. The more water one drinks the less retention he/she will have. Salt can also lead to water retention, but in most individuals who drink enough water the salts are flushed from the body and do not effect cellular retention.

You may say, “why not just take a diuretic?” Diuretics, or water pills are only a temporary fix. Water retention will be relieved, but the problem of dehydration still exists. The body will continue to try to restore the extra cellular water if it is not giving a proper amount to balance the water lost when a diuretic is used.

Benefits to Your Looks:
Water has often been touted as THE beauty treatment to remember. Believe it! Water flushes out impurities in your skin, leaving you with a clear, glowing complexion. It also makes your skin look younger. Skin that is becoming saggy, either due to aging or weight loss, plumps up when the skin cells are hydrated. Muscle depends on water to build and tone. Water helps to maintain proper muscle tone by enhancing the muscles natural ability to contract. Getting plenty of water also helps to prevent the sagging skin that usually follows weight loss.

So All This Talk About Water… How Do I Get Enough?

The long-standing “8 eight ounce glasses a day” is a good place to start. However, you have already read that the overweight person needs more water to retain a fat burning metabolism at the proper levels. Often people who are trying to lose weight will read or hear that they are to drink an additional 8 ounces (236ml) for every 25 pounds (11.34Kg) they wish to lose. Another way to get enough water is to drink half your body weight in ounces. For example if you weight 200lbs(90.72Kg), then 100 ounces (2.957Lt) of water day is what you need.

In order to get that water, you have to want to do it. If you are not used to drinking so much water it can be a daunting task to drink 100 or more ounces a day. And when you first start to drink so much you will be urinating often. This can lead you to quit. But when stick with it and as the body sloughs its old retained water and gets used to having you supply it with plenty of fresh water, your trips to the bathroom will lessen and you will begin to see all the benefits of upping your water intake.

When you first start to drink all the water you should it can be a difficult task. But there are ways to lead up to it and to make it a habit. It takes 21 days to form a habit so commit to that number of days and soon you will be a pro.

Try drinking water every hour on the hour, as if it were a medicine you had to have. Keep an 8ounce (236ml) glass near your water source. When you get up in the morning, have one glass and then set a timer or your watch to ring every hour. Then drink one glass when it rings. If you rise at 7am and go to bed at 10pm you will have had 120ounces(3.549Lt) for the day.

One gallon of water is 128ounces(3.785Lt). Measure your water out the night before and put it in the refrigerator. Then you have nice cold water for the next day. Cold water has been shown to absorb faster and it can lead to higher calorie burning as well.

If you prefer bottled water, you can put several rubber bands on a bottle and as you drink your bottles remove the bands, discarding one and putting the remaining ones on the new bottle. Or wear the bands on your wrist and discard one band when you empty a bottle.

Make sure you drink water before you have a soda or glass of caffeinated tea or coffee. Caffeine is a diuretic and causes water loss. So if you choose to drink caffeine add one 8ounce (236ml) glass for every caffeinated drink you have.









gooddogbenji -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:02:48 PM)

It's kinda like glue play once you get out - don't touch anything you don't want to be stuck to for a week.

Yours,


benji




ArtCatDom -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:06:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

When soda was invented= its intent was around 12 oz a day. Not to be chugged all day long. Soda has a salt type of preservative in it. Cancelling out some cleansing effects. Teas can be beneficial. Coffee- does something to the adrenal system.

Each day- we are bombarded by foriegn matter in our body. Not may would jump into a hot tub full of pepsi- rub it on skin. If you would not rub it outside your skin/body- then you would not rub it inside the body.

I dont want to divert into the realm of health diet fads.

For thousands of years- fresh clean water- has served.

Poisens must be flushed from your body.

Over time- weather it is nervous sncking on junk food- to ease that crave- or a pill- much of this happens cause we dont heed moderation.

Look at some remote tribes- no tooth decay. glowing skin.

no medicuine cabinet full of pill...

By all means enjoy other beverages. Simpy tho- they do NOT replace fresh water.

hugs to all


I'm curious as to where you're drawing all this information from.

Salt preservatives are relatively harmless in fluids, unless for some reason you're consuming enough for the basic element (sodium for example in table salt) to build to ridiculous levels. On the contrary, a salt preservative in fluids would be beneficial, since the electrolyte would encourage greater hydration. This is the exact reason they put them into sports drinks. (You can verify this information with any number of government and NGO public health groups.)

That being said, sodium benozoate is a common salt preservative in soda pop. The real concern is not the preservative itself (which it utterly harmless and somewhat beneficial even in concentrations far above what is found is soft drinks.) The concern is that under certain circumstances that it breaks down into the toxic chemical benzene (this occurs before consumption). Soft drinks have been pulled off international markets before because certain formulations have relatively high levels of benzene. (Wikipedia and public health groups can verify this information.)

Tea and coffee have been found to be about equally beneficial. Over the past two decades studies have consistantly shown that coffee does not negatively impact the health as previously believed. Even among most of those correlations remaining, the increased risk nicely correlates with other known factors among heavy coffee drinkers (lack of exercise, heavy alcohol intake and smoking). There are some risks to coffee consumption, but they are in line with the amount of risk inherent in most foods. (Recent coffee and tea studies, the Harvard School of Public Health and other public health groups can verify this information.)

On the question of comparing what we put on the outside vs on the inside, look into the basics of our digestion system. Unless there's other factors preventing it, the body will nicely take water whether it's "pure" water or it's "adulterated" with sugars and other additives. There's a reason many people who have not actually had water by itself in years are still hydrated and healthy. The outside of our body has no way to seperate out the various constituents to just get water on the skin. However, the very purpose of our digestive system is break everything down into its parts so they may be absorbed. My body can turn pork fat into blood sugar. I'm not too worried about it's ability to absorb water out of a solution.

I certainly hope that group you linked is not the sole source of your information. It repeats the old quakery of alkaline water and certainly uses language like such pseudoscience.

Just two links (if you want additional links for my previous claims, I'd be glad to provide them):
http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html

*meow*

P.S. I just reread your comment about good teeth and skin among remote tribes. This reinforces my perception that you're drawing your information from quack resources. Remote aboriginals have poorer dental, dermatalogical and general health, as well as much lower life expectancies, than those who have access to modern medicine.




subjected2006 -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:07:54 PM)

i am of the mindset that the reason there are so many overweight people in this country has a lot to do with our being "alienated" from water.
people often confuse hunger with thirst..it starts as a baby being fed grossly overmade formulas as infants..i think..any drs out there?




gooddogbenji -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:15:30 PM)

We should be a team, ArtCatDom.

I'm the monkey who slings shit at people, you come after and actually have information to back it up.

Nice seeing you!

Yours,


benji




ArtCatDom -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:32:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

We should be a team, ArtCatDom.

I'm the monkey who slings shit at people, you come after and actually have information to back it up.

Nice seeing you!

Yours,


benji


Hello northern neighbor!! *hands you a box of oatmeal* Let's get to work! [:D]

*meow*

P.S. Factoid of the minute: Did you know Toronto is closer to us in Buffalo than any American metros?




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:39:18 PM)

I had a 16.9 fl ouz 500 milileter  or in other words 8 ounces equal to two servings,water bottle, we're running low though so I have not drank as much water as usual. Last week or two when I had water I'd drink a 32 ounce of talking rain a day, it's water with 3 percent fruit juice and carbonation, no carbohydrates no sugar it's flavored with splenda, and 3 calories.


But that's more than you asked for haha




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:46:08 PM)

Beer is a dirateic, so is most alchol and soda's?

All the sugars in juice and soda;s are not healthy for you. They serve no purpose medically than to fill you up with tons of sugar, promote tooth decay, yes coke has more acid in it than others, but they have clinically proven coke will erode caked on greese off car batteries, and will disolve a raw steak in about a day in a half, and it cleans blood off pavement.

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji


About 6 pints of beer, 26 oz rye, and a glass of milk with breakfast. (all not on your "axis of evil")

But seriously, why does juice not count?  Or soda (I assume that's pop, or soft drinks)

Granted, these have calories, but do they not also contain water? 




pahunkboy -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 6:51:06 PM)

ArtCatDom  - why would I need a source?  If I say water is vital- then that my opinion. If you prefer soda pop- go for it. Choice is a wonderful thing.

Regions have faught over potable water sources.

As long as I decided I dont need sources- - the average person has 5-40lbs of gook in their colon. A good colon clease does wonders. This sentiment is like the black gook in a drain pipe. Due to western diet- we dont expel the resisue- feces en total. It adheres and buillds up. This can cause a toxic effect. 5-40 lbs.

I recommend a good colon cleanse twice a year.

hugs to all!




cuddleheart50 -> RE: Drinking water question (5/25/2006 7:05:36 PM)

I drink 24 ounces a day




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