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DarkSteven -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 6:28:55 AM)

/Reviews my post, puzzled, for the place where I said this all occurred under Republicans/

I apologize.  I cannot find any allusion to GOP/Dem, or con/lib in my post.  Keep in mind that at my advanced age, it's likely there, but I am missing it due to failing eyesight and Alzheimer's. 



ServeMyMassiveCk -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 6:29:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwynn



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ORIGINAL: ServeMyMassiveCk

Better to be a falling empire than a third world shithole like Zimbabwe or Somalia.

I've BEEN THERE.



Yeah, and those two countries did it ALL on their own, no weapons imports or privately hired 'advisors' from Western countries at all, right?

You actually WERE born yesterday, huh?






Their country started as a revolution, followed by an expansion and a land purchase. Just like our country.

The difference is, they royally fucked it up. Imagine if the Native Americans had beaten the colonists and basically killed them down to the last man, but left them Alabama.

That's what Somalia is like.



ServeMyMassiveCk -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 6:34:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

/Reviews my post, puzzled, for the place where I said this all occurred under Republicans/

I apologize.  I cannot find any allusion to GOP/Dem, or con/lib in my post.  Keep in mind that at my advanced age, it's likely there, but I am missing it due to failing eyesight and Alzheimer's. 



You're excusing the disappearance of so-called 'fake money' under the early Clinton era of 1993, which is a common cop out, faulting Reagan for Clinton-era inflation. It represents revisionist history aimed at changing the legacy of Ronald Reagan, the greatest President who ever lived.

The reality is that the money began to disappear because the government was hiding it to create a fake surplus under Clinton, likewise he was cutting the military to fund the 'surplus', letting Bin Laden escape, letting Milosevic do as he pleased, letting Castro run wild in Cuba, letting Hussein massacre his own people in Iraq, setting the stage for 9/11, getting his dick sucked by interns and generally shitting on the title of US President



DarkSteven -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 6:45:46 AM)

No, you read things in.  I stated that the crunch occurred in 1993, and the implication should have been that the fraud occurred previous to that.



Edwynn -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 6:56:12 AM)



Reagan was the greatest scammer as president that ever shamed the office. He let Volker take the blame for dealing with inflation the only way possible, then brought in Greenspan to screw things up far beyond what anybody could fix afterward. The money disappeared when DARPA came along, the world record-breaking tax money sinkhole prior to the Iraqi invasion.

Republicans => tax money siphon. All through US history. But at least Bush I got some spare change back in selling 16 canisters of anthrax to his at-the-time buddy Sadaam, while Ollie North did his part in importing cocaine, while Bill Casey did his part in selling guns to Iran just after they held 50 American Embassy hostages for 444 days.

Reagan rewarded his and his corporate sponsors' friends. Just coincidence that so many of his friends happened to be enemies of our country.

Actually, no coincidence at all, for those paying attention.


Indeed, Reagan, the greatest traitor who ever lived.






ServeMyMassiveCk -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 8:55:36 AM)

Reagan was the only real friend working and middle class Americans ever had. He's the reason you old fucks from the previous generation had jobs. He shouldn't have given them to you, you squandered the inheritance of this generation that would've lead to record prosperity. You blew all of that money. The best economic era in the past 50 years and you fucking blew it. You Baby Boomer MORONS. YOU are the traitors.



DarkSteven -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 9:08:15 AM)

So you can't get a job and your reasoning is that it's not your own doing. It's that Reagan isn't in office.



tazzygirl -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 9:15:50 AM)

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You're excusing the disappearance of so-called 'fake money' under the early Clinton era of 1993, which is a common cop out, faulting Reagan for Clinton-era inflation. It represents revisionist history aimed at changing the legacy of Ronald Reagan, the greatest President who ever lived.


There was no "fake money" under Clinton... it was all very real.. and none of it was from Social Security or other programs as claimed.



kalikshama -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (10/31/2011 7:31:36 PM)

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Kinda goes with his reasoning regarding why he can't get laid.



SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (11/1/2011 5:49:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Tell me what country has no debt, or the countries with the lowest debt, in absolute terms as well as relative to their their GDP. Whoever is in the least debt is probably doing the best right ?


Wrong. Sorry.

Those counties may be well have simply not found any way to invest its money, which is profitable even after paying the interests.

And this can be pretty bad news. Are the interests too high? Are the politicians lacking the ability or will to find it?

"No debts" does not mean that you are making it better as other countries.



SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (11/1/2011 5:54:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
And if al the countries are in debt, tell me - to whom, What entity is it that we owe our tithe or whatever that does not make itself known ? Where the fuck is all this money going ?

In our insurances, mostly. The money which is still there. The other money, was never there, it was a calculation of the estimated value of things.

If you have made a drawing, and everybody is ready to pay you 10.000 bucks for the drawing, how much is your drawing worth? 10.000 bucks. In bookkeeping, you would have to say "I have 10.000 bucks, they are in this drawing".

But if tomorrow nobody wants to buy your drawing, you suddenly have 10.000 bucks less. Where are they gone? Nowhere, they were never there in cash, they were estimated values.

So... some billions of 2008 are simply gone away, because it was the estimated value of debts, stocks, shares, houses, etc, etc.

Some other billions are now in China (for example) which has a lot of debt (and yes, you can owe me 10000 dollar and I owe you 50000 yuan, and none of these debts cancels each other, even if the balance can substract one from another).

Other billions are in funds, like insurance funds.

Best regards.



Edwynn -> RE: Question for the most worldly among us, economics (11/1/2011 7:22:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ServeMyMassiveCk

Reagan was the only real friend working and middle class Americans ever had. He's the reason you old fucks from the previous generation had jobs. He shouldn't have given them to you, you squandered the inheritance of this generation that would've lead to record prosperity. You blew all of that money. The best economic era in the past 50 years and you fucking blew it. You Baby Boomer MORONS. YOU are the traitors.




My own niece is 50% younger than me, but still 98% smarter than you. She recognizes traitors to the country, of any age. If I were you, I'd be worried.


Duck.







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