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Hippiekinkster -> The Third Continental Congress (10/30/2011 10:07:59 PM)

The 99% Declaration

Way too long to post here. I'm pretty much in agreement with this proposed working draft list of Grievances.




Kirata -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/30/2011 10:33:53 PM)


Thanks for that, HK.

K.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/30/2011 10:44:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


Thanks for that, HK.

K.

Sure thing.




HannahLynn -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 12:50:38 AM)

they cover a lot of fucking ground. they seem to have included something for everyone.




Termyn8or -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 1:01:15 AM)

They fucked it up.

It was close but they did fuck it up. Not bad really........

T^T




LillyBoPeep -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 4:23:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

The 99% Declaration

Way too long to post here. I'm pretty much in agreement with this proposed working draft list of Grievances.


this is very interesting; thanks for the link




tazzygirl -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 4:55:30 AM)

http://occupywallst.org/forum/99-declaration/

Its another proposal.

http://occupyphilly.org/declarations/9-2/

Admits its a work in progress.




nighthawk3569 -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 5:36:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

The 99% Declaration

Way too long to post here. I'm pretty much in agreement with this proposed working draft list of Grievances.


Let's start getting this information out to the 99%. Many probably don't know about this Third Continental Congress.

'hawk




TreasureKY -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 9:50:52 AM)

I wonder if they'll have more success in being recognized.  Or it is that they refused to recognize the work done before them?

Third Continental Congress 2009 or Third Continental Congress






SternSkipper -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 1:49:58 PM)

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I wonder if they'll have more success in being recognized. Or it is that they refused to recognize the work done before them?
Third Continental Congress 2009 or Third Continental Congress


We're obligated in what way to?





SternSkipper -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 1:52:19 PM)

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They fucked it up.
It was close but they did fuck it up. Not bad really........
T^T


Please ... tell me from the ARMCHAIR how it needs to be altered to server you. No chance you could recognize that THESE are products of a RATHER LARGE consensus, I suppose.





TreasureKY -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 2:18:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:

I wonder if they'll have more success in being recognized. Or it is that they refused to recognize the work done before them?
Third Continental Congress 2009 or Third Continental Congress


We're obligated in what way to?


No obligation, whatsoever.  Just seems to me that if you wish for people to take you seriously and respect your position, then you might respect other similar positions out of courtesy.

In other words... why on earth should anyone consider the OWS attempt as an official "Third Continental Congress", when OWS has completely ignored similarly sized and supported previous attempts?  What makes you "more special"?




slvemike4u -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 2:30:41 PM)

How about the right can have their "Third Continental Congress" and the OWS can have theirs.
No one,by dint of simply declaring it,has assumed ownership of the phrase "Third Continental..."
I'm not sure but I think it would be difficult to trademark "Third"




slvemike4u -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 2:32:39 PM)

Did they trademark it?
is this proprietary phrase ?
What is the big deal here ?




Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 3:02:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:

I wonder if they'll have more success in being recognized. Or it is that they refused to recognize the work done before them?
Third Continental Congress 2009 or Third Continental Congress


We're obligated in what way to?


No obligation, whatsoever.  Just seems to me that if you wish for people to take you seriously and respect your position, then you might respect other similar positions out of courtesy.

In other words... why on earth should anyone consider the OWS attempt as an official "Third Continental Congress", when OWS has completely ignored similarly sized and supported previous attempts?  What makes you "more special"?

Those are my words in the title. The document is "The 99% Declaration".

Alle ist Klaar?




TreasureKY -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 3:27:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Those are my words in the title. The document is "The 99% Declaration".


You might be a little more careful, next time.  You are aware that there is a "terrorist" organization known by the name "Third Continental Congress"?

Google is your friend.  [;)]




Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 3:38:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Those are my words in the title. The document is "The 99% Declaration".


You might be a little more careful, next time.  You are aware that there is a "terrorist" organization known by the name "Third Continental Congress"?

Google is your friend.  [;)]

I leave it to the SPLC to track domestic terrorist groups.




DomKen -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 3:48:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

I wonder if they'll have more success in being recognized.  Or it is that they refused to recognize the work done before them?

Third Continental Congress 2009 or Third Continental Congress

two links to the same lunatics.

This was put on by a professional tax cheat and included such liminaries as Orly Taitz, of complete bat shit insane fame.

If you demand that I or anyone else acknowledge these wackaloons as being followers in the tradition of the First and Second CC then I think you need to get your head examined.




SternSkipper -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 9:11:17 PM)

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No obligation, whatsoever. Just seems to me that if you wish for people to take you seriously and respect your position, then you might respect other similar positions out of courtesy.


Ummmm ... Besides of  course WE aren't calling our declaration as such, those people who held this 'event' in 2009 really have no claim they can lay that even pertains to what  WE'RE doing.
    But let's explore that for a second. in 2009 a couple of fairly fundamentalist right wing / Quasi-libertarian fusion groups tried to stage major events and ended up not really attracting enough people to pay for the events (liberals were not only not encouraged . And I asked my friend Phil, who's a US Attorney and as I remembered had 'some' interest as a legal scholar and tacit supporter. He told me that he felt that while they had a few things right they were "noninclusive of those who weren't willing to disavow their left of center leanings. They could buy a ticket to the convention, but that's about it. I found that fairly insulting. And I found their throwing around of the phrase 'constitutional convention' patently irresponsible. The last thing you want in this revisionist climate is a real live CC".
      The BOTTOM LINE is they are different events in history. And
   There are crucial differences in the open air policies of the Occupy movement.For instance... If Ron Paul's people want to come and vend their politics, they can. If the Trotsky crowd want to weave their bullshit they can. But all the while there has a been a very central core message of and I'd love to quote Robert Hunter's finest bit of social engineering here, but it might make light of what I am saying, but essentially, there's a big conversation that must be started and it has to start now before the water is over our heads, and the window closed , possibly forever. Those people who came before? Well they're welcome to come and join the conversation. It's hardly a closed deal. There will very likely be revisions and refinements.
    But to infer that we haven't already got the needed legitimacy to carry a grassroots movement of considerable force forward is EVERY BIT as foolhardy as those who think they're inflicting public relations damage by attacking some social networking page 'on behalf of all the little people hurt by our protest'.
   That train has left the station. This movement is OUR OWN made out of the thoughts hopes and proposed solutions of those who have participated in it. And unlike the "big tent" of the GOP, we have a lot more room for everybody down in the park. So come on down and join the conversation. Worst thing that can happen is you won't agree and either will add your viewpoint to the model and change what you feel you need to, or you'll walk away. But at least you tried to add your voice. There's a process at the GAs whereby ANYBODY with something to say can make themselves heard. And if it's sound or helpful, it will resonate.
   Really, YOU PERSONALLY are invited. it's the most purely American thing I have ever been involved in.

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What makes you "more special"?


It wouldn't be polite, or respectful of your relationship to a pretty nice person in my book,  to say in public[:D]




SternSkipper -> RE: The Third Continental Congress (10/31/2011 9:18:02 PM)

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If you demand that I or anyone else acknowledge these wackaloons as being followers in the tradition of the First and Second CC then I think you need to get your head examined.


If they want to show up at a GA, they'd be heard too... course they'd have to crank the people's mic up over the snoring.
   Dude, we had the LAST TWO real live card carrying commies at the Oct 7th GA and it was great. Because all the younger folk who were talking socialist nonsense, suddenly HEARD what was at the core of so-called modern socialist theory, and they were like WTF????
  Cured our minor infection with red menace pretty fucking quick.





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