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xxblushesxx -> Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:21:36 AM)
They say that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Do you believe the same holds true for those who hold the "beautiful person" power? The people who either by luck, life (where they are in it) or design (exercising, eating right, doing things to make themselves even more attractive) are beautiful, know it and use it. Is it natural to not only revel in your own glorious self but also to be obnoxious to the point of cruelty to others who do not have all or any of those same attributes? I'm particularly struck by people who actually don't have all (or any) of those features, but who still want to rub their "better than you-ness" into other peoples' faces. We could blame it on the vanity of youth, but not all who participate in this sport are young. I tend to lean to the idea that they are simply insecure about something and/or hurt by society and are lashing out, and they really don't care who gets hurt as long as they can feel better for a time. Or maybe they do care who gets hurt because they want to spread around their small sad little lives to as many other people as possible. In the end, we're all just pixels on a screen, and we would be re-miss to allow someone to affect us in that way. But I'm also sure there are real people behind those screens, and some real people do get hurt by hateful careless words. We should all be careful that our words not be bitter, lest we have to eat them someday.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:25:01 AM)
Well none of this applies to me. I am a selfless and giving man.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:30:54 AM)
trainwreck threads are interesting; even when people want to respond to insults, they respond with things that could be read as hurtful by similar people who they like. =p "let's deride this silly girl by making fun of her for being chubby" -- well how many other chubby people do we have here? but then when a man starts a fat thread, suddenly none of that is allowed. =p anyway, i do think some people use whatever positive quality they have for bad. i think more humans are just corrupt than good, so any advantageous aspect will be used for corrpution. fast runner? well that means i can steal TVs and get away. extremely attractive? well i can take advantage of men and make fun of other women. =p bigger and stronger? i can force myself on smaller women. corruption is an aspect of the human condiiton. i also think, though, that i'm a terrible cynic. i dunno... there are clearly lots of very fast runners, very attractive people, and very strong men who use their powers for good rather than evil. but they don't cancel out what seems to me to be almost overwhelming numbers of evil-doers. =p (yes, life can be boiled down to a comic book. =p)

xxblushesxx -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:31:19 AM)
And we all appreciate that. [8\|][:D] Another thing that struck me is...we wonder why women have such major psychological problems...why they starve themselves to look good, or over-eat sometimes after being raped. I'd say society does a hell of a job instilling these things in us, who needs the media with "friends" who will tell you how you don't measure up and exactly why.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:34:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep trainwreck threads are interesting; even when people want to respond to insults, they respond with things that could be read as hurtful by similar people who they like. =p "let's deride this silly girl by making fun of her for being chubby" -- well how many other chubby people do we have here? but then when a man starts a fat thread, suddenly none of that is allowed. =p anyway, i do think some people use whatever positive quality they have for bad. i think more humans are just corrupt than good, so any advantageous aspect will be used for corrpution. fast runner? well that means i can steal TVs and get away. extremely attractive? well i can take advantage of men and make fun of other women. =p bigger and stronger? i can force myself on smaller women. corruption is an aspect of the human condiiton. i also think, though, that i'm a terrible cynic. i dunno... there are clearly lots of very fast runners, very attractive people, and very strong men who use their powers for good rather than evil. but they don't cancel out what seems to me to be almost overwhelming numbers of evil-doers. =p (yes, life can be boiled down to a comic book. =p) Nothing wrong with being cynical. That just means you won't be disappointed.

LaTigresse -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:35:06 AM)
I think it just depends. I've known some damned gorgeous people in my life and to be honest, most were an absolute delight. What those of us less gorgeous do not always realize is that even the most beautiful have insecurities. In fact, much of the negative behaviour is nothing more than over compensating for their insecurities. I think that if you look at a beautiful person and expect them to be an asshole, that is what you will see. If you look beyond the beauty to the humanity, the inner person, you will see less assholishness. At least that has been my experience. On here we have one person that feels, and consistently tells us so, they are one of the most gorgeous people on the planet. When I read this person's words I see nothing but a grossly insecure individual. We also have one, self proclaimed dominant that constantly brags about his hot women. Every time I read one of his self stroking posts I see massive insecurities. He may have a dominant personality (I don't know as I certainly do not see it in his words) but there is nothing of self mastery in any of his posts. He wants to be, and likes to try to bluster about as such, but it's not what I see. That all said, I really think we see in others what we want to see. I don't care for most people but they still fascinate me. Trying to see under the armour to the human being, what makes them tick. Watching them spin their tales, creating their stories, projecting, reflecting. Most all of it is a sort of self protection. What that armour is and what our soft little underbelly is, that varies but it's always there.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:36:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker Nothing wrong with being cynical. That just means you won't be disappointed. my thought is, if i assume that people are bad, i'm either right, or pleasantly surprised. =p it's a win-win.

xxblushesxx -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:38:26 AM)
I don't know, Tigresse. I want to see good, sometimes so much I see it even when it's not there. But what I've seen on these boards lately, is not pretty in the least.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:51:28 AM)
quote: I think that if you look at a beautiful person and expect them to be an asshole, that is what you will see. If you look beyond the beauty to the humanity, the inner person, you will see less assholishness. At least that has been my experience. This is true. A typical person would see a platinum blonde-haired girl with a good figure and spray-tanned skin as vain and shallow yet she could be the sweetest person you'll never know. Do good-looking people have it easier in life? Depends on what angle you're coming from. Relationship-wise, obviously they have no trouble finding partners and can even choose which ones they want rather than someone else that would be seen as average having to gamble and take what is offered. There's this horrific vision that a person who may not appear attractive to society needs to be complimented more by a general group (and this in turn makes those in that group appear to not be influenced by looks) than a 'beautiful' person would since they believe they can get that praise from anywhere else. It happens everywhere a lot. Just because somebody is good-looking, be it natural or worked towards, doesn't take away from who they are as a person deep inside. Maybe the reason why 'egotistical beautiful people' are the way they are is because they have had to develop a mask to wear in public that is unlike them to fend off the predetermined judgments cast in their direction. Just a thought.

darchChylde -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:52:30 AM)
The first time I went to LA, I was disturbed and surprised to find that i was actually one of the beautiful people i despised out of hand, but most were actually good people and i think i'm a good man, if not a nice man

LaTigresse -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:52:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx I don't know, Tigresse. I want to see good, sometimes so much I see it even when it's not there. But what I've seen on these boards lately, is not pretty in the least. Ah, well perhaps I am projecting. For myself, I think that I expect to see it all. The good, bad and ugly. I am pretty confident that all of it exists within all of us. Just kinda depends on the individual's comfort level with what they allow to show. Seriously, think about it. Even the most good and wonderful person you know, when placed in a situation where they feel threatened in some way, will likely show the 'ugly' within them rather quickly. Not everyone but I think most........because they will be able to justify it within the context of the situation. I think that our society, and our micro societies, combined with our own personal comfort levels, tends to be the controlling factor for when that ugliness is considered acceptable or not. The people I admire most, tend to be consistent. Regardless of the external pressures. I dislike people that use excuses for their behaviour. "Well she said X so I said Y and Z". Just so that they can absolve themselves from their ugly shit. I would rather a person be able to say Y and Z and own it, regardless of the existence of X. I can respect that. The other conveys weakness and an even deeper ugliness.........in my eyes.

LaTigresse -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 7:58:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker quote: I think that if you look at a beautiful person and expect them to be an asshole, that is what you will see. If you look beyond the beauty to the humanity, the inner person, you will see less assholishness. At least that has been my experience. This is true. A typical person would see a platinum blonde-haired girl with a good figure and spray-tanned skin as vain and shallow yet she could be the sweetest person you'll never know. Do good-looking people have it easier in life? Depends on what angle you're coming from. Relationship-wise, obviously they have no trouble finding partners and can even choose which ones they want rather than someone else that would be seen as average having to gamble and take what is offered. There's this horrific vision that a person who may not appear attractive to society needs to be complimented more by a general group (and this in turn makes those in that group appear to not be influenced by looks) than a 'beautiful' person would since they believe they can get that praise from anywhere else. It happens everywhere a lot. Just because somebody is good-looking, be it natural or worked towards, doesn't take away from who they are as a person deep inside. Maybe the reason why 'egotistical beautiful people' are the way they are is because they have had to develop a mask to wear in public that is unlike them to fend off the predetermined judgments cast in their direction. Just a thought. I have also seen a great fear in being wanted, just because they are beautiful. That if someone does see the, less than perfect, human being within.......they will be rejected. So the perceived asshole, is nothing more than armour to hide that inner person and self protect.

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:15:22 AM)
I think that, if all you have to offer is your physical appearance, you will attract others who only care about your physical appearance. I also believe that the beauty of ones soul will always shine through. It doesn't matter if that soul is wrapped in a short or tall, thin or fat, black or white or yellow, genius or autistic package. The same applies to ugliness of the soul. It can make it through any type of packaging that may show on the exterior. Being very physically beautiful could be a key to open doors that are not open to others, I just really do not care what is behind those doors. I can remember wishing I was a tan, long legged blonde when I was a kid. Now, decades later, I run in to many of the gals I was so envious of and find out that many of them have had more heartache and problems in life than I have, and they were envious of many of us not so gorgeous people for different reasons. The grass is always greener over the septic tank (with apologies to Erma, although I bet she would laugh at being quoted on a perv site!). All of this says, good question blushes, I aint gotta clue-lol. But it is almost time for another painpill!

HannahLynn -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:18:05 AM)
quote: Well none of this applies to me. of course not, she's talking about beautiful people.

littlewonder -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:20:49 AM)
I don't consider myself beautiful but I don't consider myself anywhere near ugly either. I admit I'm vain and insecure about my looks due to a lot of reasons and do everything within my power to make myself look good. I also admit that I have used my looks to acquire things and men. I figure if it works, why not. I don't think I'm mean or cruel about it though either and I like to think I'm pretty humble. I think just because one may be beautiful it doesn't mean they are stuck-up or use their power in a bad way. Some simply know how to use it to their advantage.

GreedyTop -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:24:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynn quote: Well none of this applies to me. of course not, she's talking about beautiful people. see, and this is one of the reasons I like you ;)

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:26:01 AM)
I actually agree with you 100% littlewonder. All I am saying is, if you were someone who was, deep down, a stuck up chick with a holier than thou attitude, for me and many others, that would make your beauty fade rather quickly. Hell, when I joined the Army, my measurements were 40-28-38. If I had that body now, and knew what I know now, I bet I could rule the world!

littlewonder -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:27:49 AM)
eehh..I've seen ugly people with the same attitude so to me it has zero to do with their beauty.

GreedyTop -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:29:10 AM)
I like to think I am essentially a nice person. However, there are occasionally folks that show up on the sites I visit (and in meat life) that think that because they match Madison Avenue's idea of what is attractive, they are somehow "MOAR AWESOME" than those of us that DON'T. What those folks don't seem to realize is that fashion trends change (and yes, skin deep beauty - IS a fashion trend)... and that NONE of them are immune to the effects of aging...

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Beauty and the Beasts (11/1/2011 8:30:07 AM)
Have you never met someone who, at first glance, you thought man they are gorgeous, but the more you learned about them, the less gorgeous they got? Same as meeting someone who, at first you think geez what a plain or ugly person, but, the more you get to know them, the prettier they become. Maybe its only me, who knows, but I have had that happen to me many times, on both sides of it for that matter.

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