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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/2/2011 4:35:54 PM   
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First, until you are sure that all of these dogs have the proper social manners or have learned basic commands, it is irresponsible for you to have more than one out at a time. Shelter dogs are all clamoring for people love, and yest this is an attention getting maneuver in this case.

Instead of trying to give your attention to many dogs at once. Take 5-10 minutes with each dog individually. Work with that one dog on proper behavior, i.e. no jumping, no nipping, easy on the barking. Like a child, a dog needs discipline and structure in their lives. You having all of that out at once provides none of that.

Until recently I lived in a house with NINE dogs, all who roamed free. When their owner was around they had NO manners at all. One, a poodle mix who was a rescue that had been horribly abused was nasty and bit everyone. And I mean broke the skin bit. He isn't happy as a member of a large pack. When I started working with him, and putting him first, his behavior improved (although the owner doesn't want to admit it). He nipped me once when I went to move him and pinched under his arm by accident, but the nip was putting his mouth on my hand and releasing, not even a read mark.

Yes, larger dogs mature more slowly, but a year and a half is by no means a puppy, nor should it be treated as such for anything except chewing issues (which should be broken).

Your paying attention to another dog with him standing there is not going to improve his behavior. Take each out of their crate one at a time. If he makes a stink while in the crate ignore him. Your time should be for the out of crate dog only. As littlewonder said, shelter dogs can be hyper, they are locked up more often than not. So remember, one dog at a time. However many dogs there are, figure out how much time you can give to each one. Also if there are some that are already well socialized, then take them out together. They might like attention from you and for you to play with them, but the like to play with each other as well.

As a shelter volunteer, it is your job to socialize these dogs enough for adoption. You must be firm with them and let them know YOU are the alpha and they take orders from you. If you don't, they will be harder to adopt. When they become unadoptable, they are moved to another shelter that will put them down, or apparently my friend takes every problem dog on the planet and please, she doesn't need any more!

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/2/2011 4:43:43 PM   
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You have these dogs at your house? Several of them?

First, get a book on dog training, read it and do it, secondly if they are latching onto your wrist damn hard they are warning you, move slowly around them for awhile soothingly talking, because these dogs probably been hit. Dont be flinging your body all over.

And all the excitement and manners spoken of before is in there.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/2/2011 11:26:34 PM   
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WHen you go into the sanctuary, they're not kept in cages, it's family style. They're free to roam loose in a yard and Theresa a building they go inside to get out of the elements, with a couch and two beds. These dogs are kept sep from general pop. In general pop you can only have 1 out at a time, unless they're cage mates. Runs to much risk of a fight breaking out and ppl and dogs being hurt.

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First, until you are sure that all of these dogs have the proper social manners or have learned basic commands, it is irresponsible for you to have more than one out at a time. Shelter dogs are all clamoring for people love, and yest this is an attention getting maneuver in this case.

Instead of trying to give your attention to many dogs at once. Take 5-10 minutes with each dog individually. Work with that one dog on proper behavior, i.e. no jumping, no nipping, easy on the barking. Like a child, a dog needs discipline and structure in their lives. You having all of that out at once provides none of that.

Until recently I lived in a house with NINE dogs, all who roamed free. When their owner was around they had NO manners at all. One, a poodle mix who was a rescue that had been horribly abused was nasty and bit everyone. And I mean broke the skin bit. He isn't happy as a member of a large pack. When I started working with him, and putting him first, his behavior improved (although the owner doesn't want to admit it). He nipped me once when I went to move him and pinched under his arm by accident, but the nip was putting his mouth on my hand and releasing, not even a read mark.

Yes, larger dogs mature more slowly, but a year and a half is by no means a puppy, nor should it be treated as such for anything except chewing issues (which should be broken).

Your paying attention to another dog with him standing there is not going to improve his behavior. Take each out of their crate one at a time. If he makes a stink while in the crate ignore him. Your time should be for the out of crate dog only. As littlewonder said, shelter dogs can be hyper, they are locked up more often than not. So remember, one dog at a time. However many dogs there are, figure out how much time you can give to each one. Also if there are some that are already well socialized, then take them out together. They might like attention from you and for you to play with them, but the like to play with each other as well.

As a shelter volunteer, it is your job to socialize these dogs enough for adoption. You must be firm with them and let them know YOU are the alpha and they take orders from you. If you don't, they will be harder to adopt. When they become unadoptable, they are moved to another shelter that will put them down, or apparently my friend takes every problem dog on the planet and please, she doesn't need any more!


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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 12:02:26 AM   
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This is actually how canines communicate with humans to say, "Get a cat instead."

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 12:15:00 AM   
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This is actually how canines communicate with humans to say, "Get a cat instead."


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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 10:30:28 AM   
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Maybe because that's as high as they can reach?
That's why I have a cat. Dogs are "high maintainence".
I watch the people around here picking up crap from their dogs and think; "Boy, what an asshole!" "Picking up crap after a dog four or five times a day!"
I just don't like dogs.
They're ok if you own a farm or something but I don't understand why someone would want one in a house or condo.
In this condo assoc. and most others I reckon by far the most complaints are because of dogs.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 10:52:45 AM   
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I find, as a general rule, I tend to dislike people that dislike dogs.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 10:53:43 AM   
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Dogs are a good judge of character (prob better than I am LOL). If My dog doesn't like someone.......................

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 10:57:55 AM   
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Dogs are a good judge of character (prob better than I am LOL). If My dog doesn't like someone.......................


Hilly, if any of my dogs take a dislike to a person it is a given that I am already in agreement with them.

I don't know if they are picking up on my cues that I do not realize I am giving or what, but we nearly always agree!


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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 10:59:47 AM   
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It is important when you have multiple dogs to stay on top of the situation and run a tight ship. My dogs are well behaved because I trained them to be that way. They range in age from 8 to 13, and we live together very harmoniously. I don't think the behavior the OP describes is particularly worrisome, but I probably wouldn't allow it. I am getting another puppy in a few months, so things will be disrupted for a while.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 11:04:21 AM   
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I think the dogs are cueing off of you. They are so sensitive to our emotions.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 11:05:10 AM   
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Yes they will.........remembering when Nala came home, and the drama that ensued. 

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 3:28:19 PM   
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The shelter owner said just give him a toy when he does that and he'll leave you alone.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 3:35:08 PM   
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I think it depends on the dog and the situation. Our dogs were never " high maintenance" I didn't feel. They were easy going, and we never really had any problems with them until they both got sick and were dying.

We have a half acre property, we never picked up our dogs poop they pooped and we just let it decay naturally, and nope there was never problems of stepping in poop all the time. Nor a poop smell, nor flies. I wanted our dogs in the house cause they were my companions, They kept me company and offered me a lot of joy and , I considered them a part of the family, it was their home too.
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Maybe because that's as high as they can reach?
That's why I have a cat. Dogs are "high maintainence".
I watch the people around here picking up crap from their dogs and think; "Boy, what an asshole!" "Picking up crap after a dog four or five times a day!"
I just don't like dogs.
They're ok if you own a farm or something but I don't understand why someone would want one in a house or condo.
In this condo assoc. and most others I reckon by far the most complaints are because of dogs.


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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 5:17:03 PM   
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WHen you go into the sanctuary, they're not kept in cages, it's family style. They're free to roam loose in a yard and Theresa a building they go inside to get out of the elements, with a couch and two beds. These dogs are kept sep from general pop. In general pop you can only have 1 out at a time, unless they're cage mates. Runs to much risk of a fight breaking out and ppl and dogs being hurt.



Then that particular dog is not well enough socialized to be in the sanctuary, and you aren't letting them know you are the alpha strongly enough.

Why are these dogs kept separately? How are they being prepared for adoption? From what you have said, it is nothing more than a place where unwanted dogs can go and be whatever they want with no hope of a forever home.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 5:18:59 PM   
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We have a half acre property, we never picked up our dogs poop they pooped and we just let it decay naturally, and nope there was never problems of stepping in poop all the time. Nor a poop smell, nor flies. I wanted our dogs in the house cause they were my companions, They kept me company and offered me a lot of joy and , I considered them a part of the family, it was their home too.


Know why you didn't have a poop smell or step in it all the time? Because the dogs were likely eating it. Dogs will "self clean" their environment. It is TOTALLY inappropriate with only a half acre of land (most yards are that nowadays) to not clean up after your dogs. Did you let is "self decay" in the house as well?


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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 5:30:03 PM   
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It depends on each dog why they're not in general pop, with these babies it seems they're friendly enough they do better in a multiple dog environment and not in a cage. Some are hurt and recovering, some need a pack ,some are old, we have a 13 year old there in the sanctuary, very, very sweet boy he likes to walk the yard, play ball, sleep on the couch. I assume people work with them too, they're in a room off the owners of the place house. Several of them are adopted already and waiting to go home, One of them can't go home till the vet clears her cause she had bi lateral ear surgery and her ears are still messy and need tlc, she's deaf because her previous humans left serious ear infections un treated, She kinda needs the other dogs to show her the ropes for a while. In the mean time they hang out, have other dogs for companionship, get what ever needs addressed addressed
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Then that particular dog is not well enough socialized to be in the sanctuary, and you aren't letting them know you are the alpha strongly enough.

Why are these dogs kept separately? How are they being prepared for adoption? From what you have said, it is nothing more than a place where unwanted dogs can go and be whatever they want with no hope of a forever home.


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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/3/2011 10:34:15 PM   
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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/4/2011 8:58:37 PM   
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I think it's called mouthing, but what ever it's called it's damned painful and rude. The first time they did it, I was walking into the sanctuary for the first time and they were all excited, and this second time, I was sitting down directly in front of the dog, and another dog was next to me and I was paying it attention. Then the dog that did it latched right onto me, I shouted ow, and no, which is what I was told to do because some dogs have done it before, and it let go then a few second later it did it again and this time wouldn't let go until I applied pressure to the sides of its jaw.


This ain't news....dogs like to fight....was just in a vendors office today...his dogs came up and eviscerated my arms....ripped 'em to shreds....(blood everywhere).  He was all about "Back off....GO AWAY!!!!") and I was all like..."bring it" and while I talked to him about my needs.....me and his two pits ripped the fuck out of each other.

And he didn't mind at all that I threw them across the room...easily 15 - 20 feet.

It's a guy thing I'm sure....but I liked it.

My arms hurt like hell...and if I was doing any kind of modeling work...I'd imagine next week would be pretty much out for hand modeling but.....I had  a great fucking time with his dogs.

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RE: Why do some dogs like latching onto your wrist with... - 11/7/2011 8:30:10 PM   
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They didn't poop in the house unless they were sick, which was next to never. You have heard of doggie doors right? There is never a need to shit or piss in the house when you can get out any time you wish. unless your dog is just being a butt head and misbehaving. Or has some other problem.

I don't know how small a plot you think half acer is but it's not small at all. It's big enough to have 3 full size buildings on it , One of them is a huge work garage, with two rooms,a side yard garden, between the house and the garage, a huge front yard* least in my standards* and still have room for a very large garden in the back , and to have 24 birds running loose. Which the birds are new, they were not here when the dogs were , and my dad's butchered most of the 24, we' down to 16. but our property is large enough that we could have the birds fenced off and still have room for a dog. There's so much pooping spce is not even funny. No, I do not think most yards are no a half acer, now a days, that I"VE SEEN most yards are tiny stamp lots. A lot of houses don't even hardly have much yard, let alone fit 3 big builings, a garden, 24 birds, and a side garden.

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