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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 7:30:48 AM   
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You do realize that Goldman Sachs was the top contributor to the o'dumbo campaign? You do realize as soon as your Dear Leader seized power, these wall street types took top positions in his government? Now, can you connect the dots? Anybody? Bueller? Hello?


You do realize that this financial meltdown started when Bush was in office.

Or were not paying attention back then?

By the way, what happened to your stylish photo wearing the cowboy hat Wyatt Earp?

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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 7:46:39 AM   
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No question, the Democrats have fallen for the "gotta make Big Business happy" line of thinking as established, no turning back, in the Reagan era.

But, are you trying to tell us here that grabbing ankles for the financial industry is somehow less 'elegant' than grabbing ankles for the oil industry? Heck, at least Blankfein ain't VP. We will be paying for Cheney's shenanigans for decades to come. That's almost as bad as if we had the largest investment bank CEO as Treasury Secretary or something. Oh wait ... 
(which presents the question; why are you carping about Goldman Sachs' contribution to this administration when the last pres had the biggest GS guy at the Treasury?)

To the general audience here:

Carp about the SEC all you like, but ICE (International Commodities Exchange), completely unregulated, CDOs (collateralized debt obligations), again, completely unregulated, and a host of other malfeasance instruments could only have come into existence because of the Commodity Futures Trading Modernization Act. Wendy Gramm attacked from below (sorry, Enron retirees) and her hubby attacked from above (you GO! Phil!).There are quite many things that affect our livelihoods that the the SEC is expressly prohibited from regulating. TY Phil Gramm.

If this country had anything resembling proper laws regarding fraud, at least 1/4 of the folks at S&P or Moodys' would be serving life sentences.

Congress already gutted anything resembling financial regulation 12 years ago. Heck, the Bush II clan even sicked the OCC (Office of the Comptroller of the Currency) on states trying to enact predatory lending laws.

The SEC is still there just to keep a good face on things. You know how Congress is; gotta dress well for the party.






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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 7:48:47 AM   
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You do realize that Goldman Sachs was the top contributor to the o'dumbo campaign? You do realize as soon as your Dear Leader seized power, these wall street types took top positions in his government? Now, can you connect the dots? Anybody? Bueller? Hello?


Yeah, and that won't help em shit in civil court, especially when the plaintiffs are also hedge funds, banks, big shot heavy hitters who want their fucking cash etc...

How bout that, Bueller?

(and, if you had read what I posted instead of spewing knee jerk reactionist vitriol, you would have caught the fact that I was pointing out that AUDITORS bear legal responsibility. Fuck, the company is toast, there's no money to be had from them. But PWC? To quote Clay Davis, Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiit)

And whose fucking Dear Leader is this? Not mine.
The one great thing about ignorant folk-they demonstrate their idiocy right outta the gate for the world to see, do things like make stupid assumptions with zero evidence to back it up.

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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 8:41:30 AM   
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Here's the theme song for all this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyjQCeo5MH8

It's a free-for-all.

(my band actually used to play this song, back in the day, since I'm in the mood for embarrassing myself).



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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 8:53:23 AM   
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I find it really funny that when liberals referred to President Bush as the chimp or shrub, the Republicans got bent out of shape and said it was being disrespectful to the office of the President.

But, they refer to Obama in just the same style and manner.

As far as contributions to presidential campaigns go, look at all the big corporations that contributed to Republicans during the last Presidential Race, the last mid term, AND this race.  Corporations that are OUTSOURCING jobs overseas, that want FEWER regulations and government oversight on pollution, business and banking.



JLF, I'm not a Repub or Dem and I didn't like Bush.
But,...you have to admit that President Pantload is a disaster!
The economy is in shambles, there are more unemployed since the depression, we're in what, three, four military actions?
He doesn't know what he's doing or know how to manage a country.
Have you ever tried to *listen* to one of his speeches?
He's a TERRIBLE president!

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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 9:32:23 AM   
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You do realize as soon as your Dear Leader seized power,



Siezed power???
I thought he was appointed by the electoral college like all the rest of our "elected presidents"

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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 9:35:32 AM   
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I didn't like Bush.
Have you ever tried to *listen* to one of his speeches?
He's a TERRIBLE president!


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 11:04:54 AM   
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A Goldman Sachs / Corzine / Obama / MF Global love tryst?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Arent Republicans demanding the government return Corzine's money? Im just going on the assumption that his accounts have been frozen, but Im not sure.

Oops.. I misunderstood the news blurb. Seems the Republicans are calling for Obama to return the money Corzine gave to Obama's campaign.

Apologies.


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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 11:31:52 AM   
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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 12:46:59 PM   
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Don't ask him what Goldman Sachs CEO was Secretary of the Treasury, or what Haliburton CEO was Vice President of The United States, or what G. D. Searle CEO was Secretary of Defense, or what  Chevron board member was Secretary of State, and most especially don't ask what administration all that happened in. Nothin' like that.






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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 1:43:08 PM   
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SIPC handles securities. FDIC handles bank deposits. I believe SIPC has guaranteed investors deposits up to $250,000 - but even there, in the end that means the government is underwriting part of the loss -



Totally wrong. SIPC does not guarantee anything, and the government doesnt underwrite any loss. They merely serve as an advocate for investors in the orderly liquidation of a bankrupt brokerage, helping to find missing securities that have been registered in the investor's name.

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RE: to the whackadoodle leftists here - 11/4/2011 1:45:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I find it really funny that when liberals referred to President Bush as the chimp or shrub, the Republicans got bent out of shape and said it was being disrespectful to the office of the President.

But, they refer to Obama in just the same style and manner.

As far as contributions to presidential campaigns go, look at all the big corporations that contributed to Republicans during the last Presidential Race, the last mid term, AND this race.  Corporations that are OUTSOURCING jobs overseas, that want FEWER regulations and government oversight on pollution, business and banking.



Yeah, like Immelt and GE. Oh...wait.

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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 1:54:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

SIPC handles securities. FDIC handles bank deposits. I believe SIPC has guaranteed investors deposits up to $250,000 - but even there, in the end that means the government is underwriting part of the loss -



Totally wrong. SIPC does not guarantee anything, and the government doesnt underwrite any loss. They merely serve as an advocate for investors in the orderly liquidation of a bankrupt brokerage, helping to find missing securities that have been registered in the investor's name.


SIPC protects and guarentees any securities or cash at troubled or bankrupted brokerages, if they sell me out or rob my cash, SIPC will pay what is unrecovered

So, while they do not guarentee as the FDIC does (for instance if you buy a derivitive, or options or some fucking goldscam from the unctuous scammers at the brokerage and lose your fuckin ass......its an LOL to SIPC, but they will not let your actual owned assets laying at the brokerage to be ROBBED)

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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 1:59:39 PM   
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Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets


www.opensecrets.org › ... › Presidential › List All Candidates  - Block all www.opensecrets.org resultsProfile for Barack Obama, 2008 presidential candidate. See where ... Contributors. Data available for Barack Obama: ... Goldman Sachs, $1013091.


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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 2:08:30 PM   
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http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&type=C&cid=N00003675&newMem=N&recs=20

Gingrich
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00008333

and so on, now W had Bechtel, Haliburton and war industries backing him all the fuckin way.

If the bought politicians are pissing you off, maybe you should investigate joining the OWS sanity.

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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 3:25:47 PM   
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Bought politicians are passé . It is much more efficient to just place the corporate folks at the highest level to begin with, screw all that lobbying and bribery stuff. No need for such nuisance in the right administration.





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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 3:46:00 PM   
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Republicans are supposed to be evil greedy capitalist pigs who have sold their souls to big business, remember "man"?

Obamas big thing was that he claimed to  represent "change you can believe in" and the rioters are pointedly ignoring his lies and his deceit "man".

Its all about politics, these people have no compass, what leftist does. Its all about the talking point of the day...there is no truth, no reality. Its just, have another bong hit and rant on brother, getcha some of whatever is in the next tent over, just take whatever you want and mindlessly chant whatever the talking heads over at MSNBC tell you to chant  "man"

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Boner

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&type=C&cid=N00003675&newMem=N&recs=20

Gingrich
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00008333

and so on, now W had Bechtel, Haliburton and war industries backing him all the fuckin way.

If the bought politicians are pissing you off, maybe you should investigate joining the OWS sanity.


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RE: Another Wall Street financial meltdown... - 11/4/2011 4:09:22 PM   
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A Goldman Sachs / Corzine / Obama / MF Global love tryst?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Arent Republicans demanding the government return Corzine's money? Im just going on the assumption that his accounts have been frozen, but Im not sure.

Oops.. I misunderstood the news blurb. Seems the Republicans are calling for Obama to return the money Corzine gave to Obama's campaign.

Apologies.




What are you whining about now???

I corrected myself... even left the wrong information that I originally posted... and yet you still fucking whine.

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