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Slavehandsome -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 1:30:41 PM)

QUESTION- If you knew that somebody was planning an attack on the World Trade Center, would you: A)Let everybody go about their business blissfully and let it happen and the attackers possibly fail, B)Let everybody go about their business blissfully and take steps to stop it, C)Let everybody go about their business and take steps to make sure it happened in a controlled manner so that certain industries and government entities could blossom and get a bunch of no-bid contracts that are going to cost hundreds of thousands of lives?




GreedyTop -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 2:00:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

with YOU in the picture.. I'd prefer to avoid the worms ;)


spoil sport




wha?

I'd rather NOM you than WORMS?


*sulks*




kalikshama -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 2:12:49 PM)

OMG, the meatballs are AMAZING. This is the recipe that introduced me to sriracha.

First time for the sweet potatoes.




LaTigresse -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 2:30:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

wha?

I'd rather NOM you than WORMS?

*sulks*


I misunderstood.........my bad.

I am confident I forgot to leave my inner dumbass at home today. I think it was the getting up at 4am that did it. If that is not the case, it is my excuse regardless.




kdsub -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 3:08:16 PM)

My vote would be Yes...I would have no right to withhold that information no matter what the result...You don't have to worry anyway it would be impossible to keep it quiet.

I would get my love ones together so we could support each other till the end.

But I do understand the temptation to withhold this information and would not blame anyone for doing it...In fact although I would not do it I would hope they would...If that makes any sense.

Butch




ricken -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 3:48:09 PM)

Hold on a sec, I'm confused. Did we get hit by an astroid and die today? Or are we going to get hit by an astroid and die? It's 5:45 pm here, did I miss something again?




mnottertail -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 3:51:56 PM)

Yeah, its 5:51 here and we just got hit. Im dead.




ricken -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 3:54:21 PM)

DAMMIT!!!!

And I didn't get to eat no pussy today, this must be hell!




laborboleta -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 4:40:19 PM)

I have a very old sci-fi book that was my dad's, copyright 1949. Title is "The Big Eye", author Max Ehrlich. It discussed this very topic. In summary, there is a large asteroid approaching the Earth (the topography of the thing made it appear to look like an eye). All the scientists of the world got together and announced that it was going to hit and destroy the earth, I think, on Christmas Day (haven't read it in a while so don't remember all the details).

The background story is all about the Cold War and international tensions shortly after WWII, with total nuclear anihilation on the horizon. So anyway, the scientists make this announcement and all hell breaks loose, as one would imagine. In the end, the whole world gets together and sings happy songs when the asteroid miraculously squeaks by without touching the Earth. Later, the protagonist finds out from one of the scientists, on his deathbed, that  the asteroid was never going to hit the Earth, the whole thing had been a hoax, perpetrated by all of the scientists, in the hope that it would result in world peace and cooperation.

Very interesting story and commentary on the time in which it was written.




hardcybermaster -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 5:02:50 PM)

an asteroid hitting the earth might at least make people look out of their window for a minute or two and remember that there is a planet full of interesting stuff under their keyboard




littlewonder -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 5:42:56 PM)

I remember reading about this asteroid about a year or two ago. It wasn't front page news but it was out there for anyone wanting to know about it. It's not a secret. No government kept it from you because there was nothing to be kept secret. It's not going to kill us all and it's 3 lunar distances from us. That's quite a distance.

Gotta love conspiracy theorists.




Edwynn -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 6:12:58 PM)



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ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom

It wasn't a secret.  You can get a list all tracked object from multiple sources.  As far as keeping it secret if I were in charge, I can't see any way to keep it a secret.  If anything in the scientific world is known then it's known by a lot (somewhere between 100s and thousands) of people.  There wouldn't be any way to make all of them silent on the matter without killing all of them.  Someone would find it necessary to get the message out.  Secrets are like that -- you have to make a lot of people agree to keep the secret and all it takes is one to disclose it.



Thanks much for a great idea on my next screenplay. You are invited to co-write.

I'll write the "kill everybody who knows" part, you can write the "concerned scientists" part. Just understand the great potential for overlap there.

The producers will have another team of writers overlying the original screenplay to have Will Smith and Bruce Willis yell to the asteroid; "take this back to your Mama! Boy!" as they fire super-powered electron and laser guns at it (the steroid vs. asteroid thing always a good cinema draw), then Robert Duvall riding a nuke towards it at the last possible moment, a la Slim Perkins, saying five seconds before impact; "You ain't got enough for me, son."

The ever-dependable James Cromwell could play the part of the good-scientist-gone-bad in coming up with the gravity wave device that steered what would have been a near miss into a direct hit, as discovered by the vigillant investigative efforts of Halle Berry. He was only trying to save mankind by destroying them, as Ms. Berry painfully understood as he put the gun to his head after the cause was lost.

Angelina Jolie could be in the sequel.

Whaddaya say?








Amygdalin -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 6:22:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Gotta love conspiracy theorists.


I don't know if it's conspiracy theorists per se. I mean, I have seen some pretty stupid and fanatical conspiracies, but I have seen some that carry some weight too. I think it's more uneducated wingnuts that are the danger. Or panic freaks. Or people who read one little thing or watch a couple news stories and "spread the wildfire." Because those are the people I tend to see spouting crap.

I mean by definition a conspiracy is: A combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose.

I myself have been involved in several. Mwuahahaha. And I am ashamed to admit many were against my own brother. But he had it coming...





kdsub -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 7:08:53 PM)

Don't worry there is always Occupy Hell to keep the Devil and big business greed in check.




Edwynn -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/8/2011 7:45:52 PM)


We have been in Occupy Hell for over a decade already, if one were to ask some many former job holders or former home owners, not to mention a good many current (just barely) holders of same.

They merely decided to change location to a public venue to draw attention to the fact is all.











Mrxp -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/12/2011 12:08:46 AM)

Do you people make it a point to draw any and all conversations off-topic, or do you only do that on certain select conversations?




Edwynn -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/12/2011 3:22:15 AM)




I understand the sentiment there.


But read the OP again and tell us how any thinking mind would or even could attempt to stay "on-topic" in this instance, Mr. Big Eye.


Boys just wanna have fun.











shivermetimbers -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/12/2011 6:56:07 AM)

Holy heck people, the solution is simple.

If you hear the end of the world is coming, move to Pittsburgh. Everything happens five years later here.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/12/2011 6:59:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySur

Can you remember the exact moment we learned that the asteroid was going to strike the Earth today and destroy all humanity, but the government decided just to tell the stupid people that it would pass harmlessly by the Moon tonight so they would not panic?

QUESTION: If it was your decision, and you knew definitively that all life would end on a certain date, (and could PROVE it), would you have the information released to the general public knowing there was nothing we could do, or just let them live blissfully? Do you think your government agrees with you?


Actually, it was announced approx. 2 years ago.




laborboleta -> RE: Asteroid - Was it right to keep it secret? (11/12/2011 12:16:18 PM)

Has everbody heard that the Russians just announced that the asteroid Apophis will definitely, absolutely, maybe certainly, possibly score a direct hit on the Earth and blow us up on Thursday, April 13, 2036?

We should have plenty of time to pack...

Edited to delete bad link. LillyBoPeep has a better one. [:D]




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