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Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:00:47 AM   
CrappyDom


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It is so funny to read people who list these things as limits like it is something profound or as if they don't have other limits.  I mean, since they don't list severing body parts, do I get to do that?  Or how about sex changes?  Or since they didn't mention organ donation?  What about locking them in a closet and just shoving food through the door, or just giving them away to someone else?

Sorry, just thought I would toss this out there.
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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:06:38 AM   
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Yep, there's a whole world of fun experiences out there, just waiting for us.

And this thread proves, yet again, how important it is to communicate REALLY WELL, and BEFORE the hacksaws come out.

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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:11:42 AM   
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Hacksaws!!

I knew there was SOMETHING I left out of my HARD limits list!

Thanks Becca

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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:15:33 AM   
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I came into this thread thinking someone had just seen Necromantik for the first time lol

Some of those reviews from first timers are hilarious.

But yeah, anyway, back on topic. 

You raise a good point with this.  To me there are certain common limits that I figure on at least 90% or more are going to have.  I figure scat, children, animals, disfigurement, etc into the  limits that generally go without speaking.

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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:21:19 AM   
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I do not list limits usually because of this. I figure if someone is into really weird shit and that did not come up in negotiation and they spring it on me in the middle of play... Well lets just say I do not feel they were safe, sane or consensual and I would not willingly comply. I cannot possibly think of every weird kink that is out there that I might not want to take part in.

But to be fair to people who do list things like this, it is because of what some sites say online about limits... that if you do not spell them out then your "owner" has every right to do those things to you... Of course it is BS, we always have the right to say.."You are not into the same kinks as me, goodbye"... But some sites out there give the impression that once you are collared,... thats is it, no more limits for you!

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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:22:24 AM   
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Most people assume that if it's out of the standard bdsm racket, it's no different than vanillas.

Which is a big mistake considering that they are so busy negotiating whether floggers can be used WITH needles, that they don't think to go over financial or legal trusts of property, or medical situations.

This sort of issue tends to get raised mostly on the "limits" discussion- people who accept authority from another only to find out that their real limits on things are completely off the charts from what they assumed.

What I find more important than making lists of "ok" and "not ok" is simply understand perspectives and desires.  If you know a persons philosophy on things, if you know their ideas and stances and how they work through issues- then it doesn't matter what you remember to put on the list or not, you'll know how to work through it together. 

The great majority of people in the scene tend to want standard vanilla relationships with a bit of authority dynamic thrown in them, so "out there kinks" don't come up and don't need to.  But the fact is, if you're really into something or want to cover something that's considered outside the norm, it should definitely at least be brought up.

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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:36:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

If you know a persons philosophy on things, if you know their ideas and stances and how they work through issues- then it doesn't matter what you remember to put on the list or not, you'll know how to work through it together. 



Excellent point, LA. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this same thing. "Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are." It might sound like I'm just a "hit and run" on this thread since I'm not choosing to elaborate on the OP's dynamic, but I do feel that the Emerson quote sums things up quite neatly.

I've had to weed out a few "friends" in the last week or so simply because I did get to know them well enough to want to distance myself from the initial contact I made.

As far as the hacksaw comparison goes. How funny! I was talking to someone whom I know in real life just yesterday. He threatenend to bring out a hacksaw and I told him: "That's not a hard limit for me as long as you use it on someone else".

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RE: Scat play & corpses - 5/26/2006 9:36:18 AM   
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  Bravo!!  Nuff said!

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

But some sites out there give the impression that once you are collared,... thats is it, no more limits for you!


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