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farglebargle -> If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 5:05:19 AM)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/mark-block-herman-cain-politico-clains_n_1083427.html

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Mark Block, Cain's chief-of-staff, spoke to Sean Hannity on Fox News Tuesday, and wrongly claimed that the son of a woman who accused Cain of sexual harassment in the 1990s works at POLITICO.

"At the press conference it was brought up that Karen Kraushaar had come out as one of the women, so we've come to find out that her son works at POLITICO, the organization that originally put this story out," Block said.

When Hannity asked if the information about Kraushaar's "son" was confirmed, Block said: "We've confirmed that he does indeed work at POLITICO and that's his mother, yes."


Josh Kraushaar is unrelated to Karen Kraushaar.




RacerJim -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 5:08:36 AM)

Until one/more of Cain's accussers files criminal and/or civil sexual harrassment charges against him, none of them can be trusted...




Hillwilliam -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 5:13:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Until one/more of Cain's accussers files criminal and/or civil sexual harrassment charges against him, none of them can be trusted...

That makes absolutely no sense. So someone can't be trusted unless they make a report but once they do, they can?
If they were lying before the report, the report makes it legit or vice versa?
That is quite possibly the stupidest in a long line of stupid posts.




Fightdirecto -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 5:24:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
Until one/more of Cain's accussers files criminal and/or civil sexual harrassment charges against him, none of them can be trusted...

I suspect that even if Mr. Cain was proven guilty of sexual harrassment in a court of law by a 12 person jury and sentenced by a judge to a fine and/or jail time - his supporters (such as yourself) would still claim he was innocent and the victim of "left-wing media".


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Kirata -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 9:46:49 AM)


If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted...

Damn right. Is Cain thinking of hiring this guy??



Oh wait, Block already works for Cain. That would mean Cain can't be trusted if he doesn't fire him.

It's okay, I understand, you're confused, not lying.

K.






Owner59 -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:02:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Until one/more of Cain's accus

sers files criminal and/or civil sexual harrassment charges against him, none of them can be trusted...


Really?

How many would it take?

Four,five?

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Mark Block is one of the worst campaign managers.He also has a "shaky" past, while they`re pointing out shaky pasts.

They knew about this in '02' so they must have made an early decision to go ahead anyway and planned in advance to attack anyone who might come forward.

They already had the racism charge loaded up ,fucking ass-holes,the "liberal media attack" poop-stock cooking on the stove,ready to serve and a plan to attack the individuals, one by one.

They already had the fake outrage and fake indignation act worked out when they lied about even knowing about any allegations.

Calculating,shameless,disgraceful.

Block has mishandled this from the start,only making himself look inept and lost.



They also knew they`d have a boat load of dupes they could count on.




Lucylastic -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:08:36 AM)

didnt he also have something to do with Perry???
or am I thinking of someone else?




Owner59 -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:18:56 AM)

It`s like they`re panicking,shooting in all directions and mauling anything that comes near enough.

This is how he`ll run his presidency?




FirmhandKY -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:25:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

It`s like they`re panicking,shooting in all directions and mauling anything that comes near enough.

This is how he`ll run his presidency?

It's kinda how Obama is running his Presidency, so .... [8D]

Firm




Moonhead -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:29:46 AM)

Obama would be running his Presidency a lot better if he was mauling stuff and shooting, rather than running away screaming in a high pitched voice as soon as somebody raises their voice and trying to stop the GOP elements of both houses fillibustering by pulling a grovelling act so fawning Steppin' Fetchit would find it a bit much.




Owner59 -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:31:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

It`s like they`re panicking,shooting in all directions and mauling anything that comes near enough.

This is how he`ll run his presidency?

It's kinda how Obama is running his Presidency, so .... [8D]

Firm


Not feeling well today Firm?

Wasn`t there an election there recently?[:D]




FirmhandKY -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:34:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

It`s like they`re panicking,shooting in all directions and mauling anything that comes near enough.

This is how he`ll run his presidency?

It's kinda how Obama is running his Presidency, so .... [8D]

Not feeling well today Firm?

Wasn`t there an election there recently?[:D]

Hell, I guess there was, but I didn't know until one of the medical tech's mentioned it to me, yesterday.

I think it was only about "wet/dry" issue's though.

No local politicians asked for my vote over the last few weeks, anyway.

Firm




Owner59 -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 10:42:21 AM)

[:D][:D][:D]




Arturas -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:02:54 PM)

Lying? I think calling what Cain's adviser said a lie is too strong a term. Wishful thinking actually. It was a mistake but not a lie. Nobody from Cain's campaign came on Fox to lie.

If we want an example of a lie let's examine Clinton's "I did not have sex with that woman" statement. Clinton did not say this because of bad information, as if Clinton's father somehow miss-led Clinton on what activities come under the description "sex", but because he portrayed something he new false as the truth. Remember Representative Wiener (D)? Another classic example of lying rather than being miss-taken.

Hey, I see a pattern and perhaps better question presented, "If the Democratic party has so many elected lairs can we trust them?"




Lucylastic -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:06:29 PM)

LMAO just LMAO
not a lie... a mistake, Yes it was a damn lie, they said he had confirmed it
It was a LIE LIE LIE
Lets not do clinton, FFS lets do weiner, lets do andrews, lets do vitter, but this isnt the same as Clinton.
This is NOT the democratic party trying to bring him down
what utter and complete bullshit
lookk up the clip on hanity last night
HE LIED and said josh is her SON
and it was confirmed
BOLLOCKS
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67913.html
https://twitter.com/#!/HotlineJosh/status/134093136183046145
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/08/block-falsely-links-cain-accuser-with-reporter/
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3914920
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3914930




Arturas -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:28:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LMAO just LMAO
not a lie... a mistake, Yes it was a damn lie, they said he had confirmed it
It was a LIE LIE LIE
Lets not do clinton, FFS lets do weiner, lets do andrews, lets do vitter, but this isnt the same as Clinton.
This is NOT the democratic party trying to bring him down
what utter and complete bullshit
lookk up the clip on hanity last night
HE LIED and said josh is her SON
and it was confirmed
BOLLOCKS



Back on Cain's speaker, I think he was mistaken on both counts but not "lying" and the difference is such statements are too easy to fact check to think anyone would go on any show and simply "lie". That is the difference. When people lie on national TV they are only doing so if they think no body can fact check the lie. Like Clinton or Wiener. Not Cain's speaker or adviser, clearly.

So, you think the timing of all this is just coincidental or some good people trying to save us from a man without character, like Clinton or Wiener (D) ? I think you are mistaken, but not lying.





slvemike4u -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:30:32 PM)

Edited,not worth the effort.




servantforuse -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:37:43 PM)

There has never been a politician from any party that hasn't lied on TV.




Arturas -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:38:10 PM)

My sense is this is insignificant.

I also sense that voting Republicans and Independents hear this on TV and ignore it knowing, as we have over the years watched such attacks from both sides of the asle, that this is done to trigger the fear emotion and so influence the masses and their votes. The fear of losing their SS benefits, fear of not getting health care, fear of a president who hires liers and is therefore clearly untrustworhy and might take their SS benefits or their 401k or their doctor. But, the masses do not vote in America, they sit on the couch and watch reality TV.

So, my sense is this is insignificant.




Lucylastic -> RE: If Cain hires people who flat out lie on TV, he can't be trusted... (11/9/2011 12:40:43 PM)

I was talking about Cains speaker, Block, the same guy who SAID it was confirmed that josh was her son. it was a lie.
They are going to correct it tonite
However, YOUR credibility is as shot as Cains and Blocks
LMAO just LMAO
not a lie... a mistake, Yes it was a damn lie, they said he had confirmed it
It was a LIE LIE LIE
Lets not do clinton, FFS lets do weiner, lets do andrews, lets do vitter, but this isnt the same as Clinton.
This is NOT the democratic party trying to bring him down
what utter and complete bullshit
lookk up the clip on hanity last night
HE LIED and said josh is her SON
and it was confirmed
BOLLOCKS
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67913.html
https://twitter.com/#!/HotlineJosh/status/134093136183046145
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/08/block-falsely-links-cain-accuser-with-reporter/
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3914920
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3914930




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