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tazzygirl -> Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:02:08 PM)

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Romney unveiled a blueprint to overhaul entitlement programs popular with seniors, saying he would gradually raise the retirement age for Medicare and Social Security. Under his plan, future retirees would have the option of staying on traditional Medicare or purchasing health insurance from private companies through “premium supports,” or vouchers.

Romney also said he would turn responsibility for Medicaid, the government health care program for the poor, over to state governments, and cut about $100 billion in Medicaid spending. He also would cap federal spending at 20 percent of gross domestic product by the end of his first term. To do so, he would cut about $500 billion in annual spending and lower non-defense discretionary spending to 2008 levels.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-overhaul-medicare-and-social-security-to-reduce-debt/2011/11/04/gIQAgUHumM_story.html

In 2008, Medicaid provided health coverage and services to approximately 49 million low-income children, pregnant women, elderly people, and disabled people. Federal Medicaid outlays were estimated to be $204 billion in 2008.[31]
Medicaid payments currently assist nearly 60 percent of all nursing home residents and about 37 percent of all childbirths in the United States. The federal government pays on average 57 percent of Medicaid expenses.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid#Budget

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Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, has yet to fill in key details for his plan to overhaul entitlement programs, but the broad framework is similar to the blueprint of House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Both programs allow seniors to use a voucher for private insurance, and they do not effect seniors at or near retirement. But unlike Ryan’s plan, Romney’s would give seniors the option of remaining in the traditional Medicare program. Romney said his plan would not effect seniors at or near retirement.

“The future of Medicare should be marked by competition, choice and by innovation — rather than bureaucracy, stagnation and bankruptcy,” Romney said, adding: “Tomorrow’s seniors should have the freedom to choose what their health coverage looks like.”


Anyone think this will work?




tazzygirl -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:08:10 PM)

Now, I will give my opinion. Of course it will work, for the rich.

Who are the targets yet again? The elderly, the blind, the disabled, the pregnant, and the children.

This is something to be proud of?

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Romney’s proposal calls for cutting programs that cost the government money and that he believes are not necessary. He said he would start with repealing President Obama’s health-care overhaul, a pledge that was received with hearty applause. “Obamacare is bad law, bad policy, and when I’m president, the bad news of Obamacare will be over,” he said.

Romney also said he would reevaluate hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign aid commitments. “I will stop sending money to any country that can take care of itself, and no foreign aid will go to countries that oppose American interests,” Romney said. But he made clear he would reverse Obama’s cuts to the defense budget and spend more money on enhancing the Navy and Air Force.


http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/romney-calls-for-overhaul-of-medicare-and-social-security-to-reduce-debt/1200170

So to hell with the poor, blind, ect... and give right into the hands of defense. Who is he planning on going to war with?





Lucylastic -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:17:52 PM)

considering he has this as a plan for vets.... I dont think theres many vets gonna be willing to do his dirty work for him.
While I recognize the VA system has lots of issues... privatising it?
what a clusterfuck
Greed isnt anyway to attract help for vets.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/mitt-romney-veterans-health-care-privatization_n_1089061.html?ref=homepage
WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney floated an eyebrow-raising suggestion on Veterans Day: privatize veterans' health care.

Speaking with a dozen vets in an occasionally emotional roundtable discussion in South Carolina Friday, the GOP presidential contender sympathized with the service members' difficulties obtaining treatment from the Department of Veterans Affairs, which one vet described as "adversarial."

Romney, who has already proposed privatizing Medicare, suggested that maybe giving wounded warriors an outside option would force VA health bureaucrats to be a little more responsive.

"When you work in the private sector and you have a competitor, you know if I don't treat this customer right, they're going to leave me and go somewhere else, so I'd better treat them right," Romney said. "Whereas if you're the government, they know there's nowhere else you guys can go. You're stuck.

Sometimes you wonder if there would be some way to introduce some private-sector competition, somebody else that could come in and say, you know, that each soldier gets X thousand dollars attributed to them, and then they can choose whether they want to go in the government system or in a private system with the money that follows them," said Romney. "Like what happens with schools in Florida, where people have a voucher that goes with them. Who knows?"




Owner59 -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:34:45 PM)

A new Romney ad.




Lucylastic -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:38:16 PM)

code is screwy, :(
coudlnt make it out tho cos my eyes are sore




Owner59 -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:41:21 PM)

Can`t seem to make it link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/jimmy-fallon-campaign-ads-perry-romney-bachmann-cain-video_n_1088223.html?ref=comedy

Just go to the Romney ad....it`s fucking hilarious and Fallon nails him!




Lucylastic -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 6:53:15 PM)

FUCK HULU
SHIT BAGS
will hunt for it, thanks for the heads up tho hon




Lucylastic -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 7:13:17 PM)

ahem ok snarky bitch is on break, I found it, thankyou, lMAO here are links for anyone else who cant get Hulu
http://www.youtube.com/user/LNightFan1#p/a/u/1/6LLgu9BO3Iw
I could find the other three but not the romney one, took me all that time, sheesh(15 minutes) and my google -fu is brilliant normally




BanthaSamantha -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/11/2011 8:10:41 PM)

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Romney said, adding: “Tomorrow’s seniors should have the freedom to choose what their health coverage looks like.”


What Romney fails to understand (or purposefully ignores) is that opening up the selection doesn't provide any tangible benefits. All of the potential private insurance plans a senior could select from are simultaneously more expensive and weaker in coverage. Justifying this plan as a way to open up more choices and selection is merely a smokescreen.

Secondly, while a voucher system would indeed save the government money (not counting the negative effects it would bring), by making the voucher program optional, no money will be saved. It can be assumed that people will select the plan that works best for them (likely regular medicare).

Lastly, cutting 100 million in Medicaid spending has the potential of being incredibly destructive. As noted in the original post, 2008 Medicaid outlays were only about 200 million. This plan would effectively slash the program (as well as the average benefit) in half.




Kirata -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/12/2011 3:25:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BanthaSamantha

cutting 100 million in Medicaid spending has the potential of being incredibly destructive. As noted in the original post, 2008 Medicaid outlays were only about 200 million. This plan would effectively slash the program (as well as the average benefit) in half.

In half by the 2008 numbers, but not in half today or down the road. Nevertheless, I agree both the plan and Romney are disasters.

Those numbers are billions, by the way.

K.




Owner59 -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/12/2011 4:17:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

FUCK HULU
SHIT BAGS
will hunt for it, thanks for the heads up tho hon

Advert on Youtube but poorer quality.




OrionTheWolf -> RE: Romney's Plan (11/12/2011 4:32:51 AM)

No.


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Anyone think this will work?





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