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YourPrincessXxX -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 2:15:54 AM)
I guess it's another lesson learned - don't sign anything with a hard dick.[;)]

SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 2:27:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: YourPrincessXxX I guess it's another lesson learned - don't sign anything with a hard dick.[;)] I would recommend to cut the communication. If he is serious he will start begging any paying. If not, just forget him. But that's only me. I am not very patient with people who annoy me.

YourPrincessXxX -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 2:40:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SpanishMatMaster quote: ORIGINAL: YourPrincessXxX I guess it's another lesson learned - don't sign anything with a hard dick.[;)] I would recommend to cut the communication. If he is serious he will start begging any paying. If not, just forget him. But that's only me. I am not very patient with people who annoy me. Yeah, he is egotistical, actually, and would freak out - maybe even get me my money - good idea. ;) He thinks he can do whatever the fuck he wants, in his vanilla life. And that's why I despise him as a person.

Arpig -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 2:42:09 AM)
quote: Legally and morally this person owes the money. [8\|][8\|][sm=biggrin.gif] Seriously? Well I'd like to see her take him to court anywhere on planet earth. She tried to scam him, and instead he scammed her.

Arpig -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 2:46:16 AM)
quote: Morals? I am a FinDomme for him. He enjoys the financial aspect, I enjoy the extra cash to have fun. WTF are you going on about? You're not a FinDomme. you're a camwhore.

DumbassSub -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 5:10:57 AM)
Integrity to me applies to both sides of the coin. Disappointing he does not honour his word. I agree as crazyml conveyed... a service was offered, a consideration was offered in exchange, an agreement was reached and the service was provided. Legally and morally this person owes the money. The legal aspect i personally doubt but the moral aspect is with 100% validity. That this individual does not pay is frustrating as You did Your part in good faith. If he is truly into the power exchange of BM, i am surprised he does not follow through. To make payment would serve to enhance his submission to You. In that You make mention he goes to Afghanistan and then will be with extra cash flow. Is it possible the $1,000 exceeds his finances? Does a payment plan/option assist the situation? For example recall i was once enticed to sign a Certificate of Indebtedness. Contract stated i consented to a loan from Her and to pay it back according to terms of contract including penalties and interest. Thought it was clever on Her part to not only squeeze two grand from me in having me sign such, but additionally squeezed out extra 12% in interest. That certificate of indebtedness was over and above weekly tribute and shopping sprees. Have never experienced BM but regardless have found photos on website that i wished were not there and recall the effect such had on me. As i am not familiar with the finer details of BM i am curious how far You can push in outing and to not cross lines. For example can You post a few of his photos on Your website where public can see... or in PW protected area that You convey to make public? Are there ways to push the envelope further without crossing lines of legalities? Fail to see how one could argue You destroyed his character in outing. He has put the ball in motion in seeking such and willfully following through. He received what what he sought and actually is with ability to determine much of the outcome. Although it seems he is lacking integrity on his end, it seems You are maintaining such at Yours and although it's not $1,000 cash payment, it is of greater value and longevity. Disappointing and frustrating when people purposely do not honour their word. As there is a shared short history over a period of months, perchance You are with insight to his character as to determine other ways to receive what is owed. Cleverness, insight, perseverance and patience is a combined virtue that can accomplish much. To me a promise made is a debt unpaid. Bottom line however is in unfortunate event he decides not to pay it seems You are euchred.

Lockit -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 5:13:27 AM)
Yourprincess... okay, let me get this straight... you let a guy talk you into something you aren't normally into, let him ply you with begging, talk and manipulation and he finally convinces you to do what he wants. Okay... what part of that is dominant? As a dominant woman, no man talks me into anything. I question a dominant that allows herself to be drawn into something she doesn't like, thinks is illegal, whatever and then bitches about it because he didn't honor his word... when she didn't honor her self positioning of dominant and being true to self. I would have cut all ties with him the moment he pushed or sent me any information and would have taken the information and tossed it out and stood my ground rather than servicing, even for money, love or anything else... a guy calling the shots. Now to dishonor yourself, justify your ability to ruin the guy and forgetting it is still unlawful... just shows a character flaw in my opinion. Add all this together and I must ask... what makes you think you are a dominant?

kalikshama -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 8:46:11 AM)
quote: He did not pay me upfront. Never front. quote: Not to mention, I already agreed he will more than likely not pay me. My question really was, how do I deal with it? Cut him off and move on. Always get the money up front.

LafayetteLady -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 9:14:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: YourPrincessXxX Morals? I am a FinDomme for him. He enjoys the financial aspect, I enjoy the extra cash to have fun. WTF are you going on about? No, you are performing as a pro domme. You have provided a service to him on a promise of money, that's being a pro. FinDomme is just give me your money and you get nothing in exchange. If you are going to partake in these things you really should know the difference. Anyone can "promise" $500 bucks for a cam to cam session. But unless that money is in your hands, that promise mean nothing. So learn from this. You are not, at least in this case, a Findomme, but a pro domme. In most of the US, being a pro domme is not legal, so you have no recourse. Also, since you gave up a thousand bucks worth of service on a "promise" to be paid, you aren't a good business woman.

NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 9:23:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: YourPrincessXxX Not to mention, I already agreed he will more than likely not pay me. My question really was, how do I deal with it? Here, Lance answered it for you.......... quote: ORIGINAL: LanceHughes Punishment by a Dom/Domme is (and always will be) withdrawal. "As long as you are yearning, you ain't learning." WOW! Just made that up. LOL! Are you "able" to pull the grand? If so, do so. If you can't, don't. DUH! Then NADA. NO communications, NO ANYTHING! No amount of begging, etc. "I have decided to not take you on as a customer / client. My descision is final. This is the last you will ever hear from me." quote: ORIGINAL: YourPrincessXxX This guy also has kinda like... IDK, he's "befriended" me. He knows me as more than just a Domme. He finds peace in it, cause he knows it'll be hard for him to ever find a girl up to his standards [myself] who will accept his sub side and everything. He'd love to date me but no thank you! He must be scum, to screw a friend out of $1000 without batting an eye. I'd rid your life of him, like NOW if not sooner. quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Yourprincess... okay, let me get this straight... you let a guy talk you into something you aren't normally into, let him ply you with begging, talk and manipulation and he finally convinces you to do what he wants. Okay... what part of that is dominant? NBMG This. ^^^^^ All of it.

GreedyTop -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 9:44:05 AM)
~FR~ liek I said twice already. if she gets paid.. great. Otherwise, write it off as a lesson learned. shrug

Lockit -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 9:52:25 AM)
What I find disturbing is the vengeful attitude for what someone else did, without much accountability for her own choices in the matter. Had she not done what she did, he couldn't have be able to do what he did and rather than really learn the lesson she wants revenge and justifies it. Pro, findom or dominant... there is a lesson to be learned, but also an accountability issue. There is a lot to be said for experience, learning in life and not setting your own ass up for someone to take advantage of. Live and learn, but don't be so vengeful that you would step in further and prove you were guilty of blackmail by outing the guy or ruining his life. That is just stupid.

stellauk -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 10:04:03 AM)
Please forgive my blindness when it comes to this thread, but I just don't see the issue here. Anyone who charges or accepts a charge from anyone for anything runs the risk of not being paid. Easy money sometimes just doesn't turn out to be that easy. In such a situation you have a very clear choice. Either you cut your losses and move on, or you do what you can to recover the money. I mean wasn't this additional money to have fun with to begin with?

DumbassSub -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 11:04:09 AM)
Should She not feel frustrated by turn of events in that She invested time and did Her part to fulfill what Her client was seeking. To have less than happy feelings i think to be a normal response. In providing services in good faith it is not a satisfying feeling to be conned, scammed or deceived. We all are accountable for our choices and to learn from our naivety and mistakes, but a sad day when we must look at each other with no sense of trust or integrity. It seems we must not only be accountable for ourselves but must think ahead and make so others are also accountable to their word and intents. Welcome to the club PrincessXxX as it is a lesson i just most recently learned myself. Hopefully You are with cleverness, insight and perspective to receive Your money. I would make effort for such. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. In that it has been a ongoing relationship, perchance the power You have over him is attention and communication. If he calls Your BM as a bluff You are with only two options. The more logical is to walk away and chalk it up to another of life's learning experiences.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 11:23:27 AM)
FR What I want to know is what on earth does one pay $500 for a cam session for. That has got to be one memorable cam show!

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 11:24:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather FR What I want to know is what on earth does one pay $500 for a cam session for. That has got to be one memorable cam show! Tell it!! You and the ladies should get in on that action, your school fees would be SET!

GreedyTop -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 11:24:51 AM)
quote: You are with only two options. The more logical is to walk away and chalk it up to another of life's learning experiences which is essentially what I have been saying since the page 1!!! wtf? am I invisble now?

DesFIP -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 12:03:24 PM)
I don't see how she's done anything to earn this money. But if she thinks she has rendered services and not been paid, then she should consult an attorney as to how to recover the money. Small claims court may issue an injunction demanding the fee be paid, but they don't offer any enforcement. From the little info given, it's unclear if she is owed money or not. An attorney would sort it out, but of course he'd charge half of what she thinks she's owed. Basically, write him off. Or charge him upfront in the future with a raise in the fees to cover this debt.

DumbassSub -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 12:04:11 PM)
True. lol. Has me curious, but not THAT curious :-)

MistressSnow -> RE: Another Blackmail thread.. from the Domme side. (11/14/2011 1:10:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Yourprincess... okay, let me get this straight... you let a guy talk you into something you aren't normally into, let him ply you with begging, talk and manipulation and he finally convinces you to do what he wants. Okay... what part of that is dominant? As a dominant woman, no man talks me into anything. I question a dominant that allows herself to be drawn into something she doesn't like, thinks is illegal, whatever and then bitches about it because he didn't honor his word... when she didn't honor her self positioning of dominant and being true to self. I would have cut all ties with him the moment he pushed or sent me any information and would have taken the information and tossed it out and stood my ground rather than servicing, even for money, love or anything else... a guy calling the shots. Now to dishonor yourself, justify your ability to ruin the guy and forgetting it is still unlawful... just shows a character flaw in my opinion. Add all this together and I must ask... what makes you think you are a dominant? I 100% percent agree with the posting above. But what first stands out, is the lack of proof of anything. So you have a debit card number, BFD- as you admit you have never tried to use it, how do you know it is active? BTW- do you know how easy it would be for him to claim bank fraud if you did use it? Military ID's can be expired or created. Even photos or camming with "him" in uniform. You can get those at any thrift shop. This reminds of a story I heard years ago from a psychologist:::::::: Had a patient for several years. Every week we would see each other. During our sessions (nearly all of them) the patient would go on about his girl friend. I will call her Ninny. Patient would exclaim how Ninny was terrible, a bitch, a VERY bad person and so forth. After many years the patient said he was going to break up with Ninny. On to which he asked my opinion of said action. He was very worked up and excited, becoming even difficult to sit in the chair. He finally asked----- 'doctor isn't she a bitch, don't you think I should break up with her. Isn't she the worse person you have ever heard about?' --- response.... I do not know if "ninny" really exists. OK I butchered that story to hell, but it is one I live with daily. I do not believe any ones BS with having hard facts. And frankly kids, this applies to the OP as well as her "sub pay pig". I am all about fin-domme. {A relatively new phrase}. Although mine comes from personal interaction. I guess I am just too damn old guard or old skool, to actually want or expect money for sitting on my ass in front of a cam. I will not go on about laziness, and BMI indexes ---- but overall in the larger (pun intended) picture, if the posting is real, you have to just "go with it"- if he sends you the money fine- if not, be gone with your desperate ass. Apply some energy to finding another pay pig. You are spending a lot of time and energy on a wanker I think. I am sure he has spent "your" 1000.00 PLUS many more, on other dommes' $500.00 camming sessions. Do not ever think YOU are the ONLY ONE. Just something to chew on there. DIRECTLY TO THE OP----- As a an ex pro I can tell you- the wisest set of words you will ever hear: YOU WANT THE MONEY UPFRONT.

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