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The Broccoli Test & The Health Care Mandate - 11/16/2011 7:02:53 AM   
Fightdirecto


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The Broccoli Test

Einer Elhauge, professor of law at Harvard, and the founding director of the Petrie-Flom Center in Health Law Policy, in the New York Times, 11-16-2011:

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The new mandate to buy health insurance has now reached the Supreme Court, which agreed on Monday to judge its constitutionality. The crux of the constitutional complaint against the mandate is that Congress’s ability to regulate commerce has never been understood to give it the power to force Americans to buy insurance, or anything else.

But not only is there a precedent for this, there is also clear support for it in the Constitution.
For decades, Americans have been subject to a mandate to buy a health insurance plan — Medicare. Check your paystub, and you will see where your contributions have been deducted, whether or not you wanted Medicare health insurance.

Many opponents dismiss this argument because Medicare (unlike the new mandate) requires the purchase of health insurance as a condition of entering into a voluntary commercial relationship, namely employment, which Congress can regulate under the commerce clause. Thus, they say, the Medicare requirement regulates a commercial activity, whereas the new mandate regulates inactivity. But is that a distinction of substance? After all, we don’t have much choice but to get a job if we want to eat.

Even if you accept this distinction, it means that Congress can mandate the purchase of health insurance as long as it conditions that mandate on engagement in some commercial activity. So the challengers would have to admit that a statute saying that “anyone who has ever engaged in commercial activity must buy health insurance” would be constitutional. This is effectively the same as the mandate, because it is hard to believe that anyone in this nation has never bought or sold anything in his life.

Even if there are a few hardy folks who grow or make everything they need, their activity can still be regulated because it affects commerce. The Supreme Court held in Wickard v. Filburn, in 1942, that growing and consuming your own wheat can be regulated under the commerce clause because it reduces demand for wheat and thus affects commerce. Accordingly, a statute saying, “anyone who has engaged in any activity that affects commerce must buy health insurance” would clearly be constitutional, and cover everyone, just like the new mandate. In the end, the opponents’ argument is merely about how the statute is phrased, rather than about its substance.

Opponents of the new mandate complain that if Congress can force us to buy health insurance, it can force us to buy anything. They frequently raise the specter that Congress might require us to buy broccoli in order to make us healthier. However, that fear would remain even if you accepted their constitutional argument, because their argument would allow Congress to force us to buy broccoli as long as it was careful to phrase the law to say that “anyone who has ever engaged in any activity affecting commerce must buy broccoli.”

That certainly sounds like a stupid law. But our Constitution has no provision banning stupid laws...


...the argument that the commerce clause does not authorize the insurance mandate is beside the point. The mandate is clearly authorized by the “necessary and proper clause,” which the Supreme Court has held gives Congress the power to pass any law that is “rationally related” to the execution of some constitutional power.


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RE: The Broccoli Test & The Health Care Mandate - 11/16/2011 7:16:01 AM   
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We will see. The legal wonks think this "mandate" question  could go either way. And the way the Supreme Court is loaded right now, they think the lot are generally bent in ruling against it.

There are some pretty heavy duty legal arguments going either way.

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RE: The Broccoli Test & The Health Care Mandate - 11/16/2011 7:48:51 AM   
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What, lots of waving about photocopies taken from unnamed books with irrelevant passages marked, or are we talking an actual legal debate by people who know what they're talking about, rather than the supergenius legal debate we get in here?



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RE: The Broccoli Test & The Health Care Mandate - 11/16/2011 8:03:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

What, lots of waving about photocopies taken from unnamed books with irrelevant passages marked, or are we talking an actual legal debate by people who know what they're talking about, rather than the supergenius legal debate we get in here?




If it is such a burning issue for the British,  do the research yourself.  It would not be going to SCOTUS if there wasn't a serious question.

But an example is

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My long-suffering colleagues can testify that when I read the order granting review in the Affordable Care Act cases, I rushed out of my office yelling "NERDAPALOOZA!" The complexity of the issues, the brilliance of the advocates on both sides, and not least the stunning length of the oral argument granted (five-and-a-half hours when most cases get a total of one hour) makes the upcoming court drama the equivalent of Wagner's Ring Cycle for those of us whose living involves Constitutional law.


Mandate, May Undo Health Care Law

Not that there are not plenty more.

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RE: The Broccoli Test & The Health Care Mandate - 11/16/2011 8:57:17 AM   
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Proof that even Harvard has some legal idiots.

Oh...wait..where did Obama go? We already had that proof.

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