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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 7:44:50 PM   
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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 7:55:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		What took so long was to find him n the hotel in PA. Wonder who was in the other car that gave him a lift.

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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 7:56:50 PM   
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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 8:00:09 PM   
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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 8:00:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		lovmuffin, The Secret Service doesn't need probable cause. Their job is to protect the president and his family. Nothing else matters.

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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 8:06:58 PM   
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lovmuffin, The Secret Service doesn't need probable cause. Their job is to protect the president and his family. Nothing else matters.


  Right......my question could have been better phrased. I just wanted to know why this guy was the suspect and what led to his arrest.


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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 8:14:44 PM   
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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 8:21:08 PM   
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lovmuffin, The Secret Service doesn't need probable cause. Their job is to protect the president and his family. Nothing else matters.


  Right......my question could have been better phrased. I just wanted to know why this guy was the suspect and what led to his arrest.



They found an abandoned car not far from the scene... not hard to put things together.

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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 8:44:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know a little bit about the secret service ( enough to be dangerous ). I am very suprised that this guy was even close to DC.

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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 9:46:07 PM   
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The T-tards are trying to say he`s part of the OWSers.
Though most of the things I`ve hear about Oscar, points to rightie-radical.


T-Tards is right... I could show you on a map how far down the mall this clown was when he took his shots... and then show you the occupiers over on K St... and well, the picture becomes clear.
    I was told this afternoon that while a couple of doors of righties out in IdaHO and that the Secret Service appears to have had reason only to ask very superficial questions of the Occupiers such as "has this guy been around?".
   One thing people should realize is there's a tactical division of the Secret Service that patrols and conducts surveillance parallel to the DC Metro.THEY KNOW what's going on in their streets. I seriously doubt anybody showing up at the encampment at this stage of the game
is not known to them ... if the numbers climb past 1k, you'll see them handled differently. Security will tighten right up, vehicle stops will soar, people showing up @ Union Station'll get their picture run, etc.
   That's just the way that city operates.
But this guy being an Occupier? PREPOSTEROUS... he can't even cut the cheese as a Ron Paul walk-up. He's nuts, tea party, or both.


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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 10:01:25 PM   
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I know a little bit about the secret service ( enough to be dangerous ). I am very suprised that this guy was even close to DC.


dangerous...
As in....






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RE: White House shooting - 11/17/2011 10:21:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some idiot shooting a couple rounds at the Whitehouse with a rifle from a couple hundred meters when Obama isn't even in the country can't be called an assassination attempt.What it says about his sanity is another thing.

Not as harmless as a driveby with a paintball gun, though.

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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 4:01:48 AM   
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(CBS/AP) PITTSBURGH - An Idaho man accused of firing two shots at the White House last week has been charged with attempting to assassinate President Barack Obama or his staff.

Ortega sat quietly as the hearing began, his hands free but his feet shackled. The 21-year-old said only, "Yes, ma'am" when he was asked if he understood that he would be going back to Washington to face the charge.

Sources tell CBS News that Ortega was not on the radar of the Secret Service before Friday's shooting. But investigators believe he may have targeted the White House due to a hatred of Mr. Obama. Businessman Monte McCall said Ortega compared the president to the "Antichrist" when they met recently.

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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 5:20:39 AM   
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When some acts retarded,what do you call it?

http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/11/16/why-a-kent-state-moment-cant-happen-today/


asinine strikes me as more appropriate.


That would work.


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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 7:25:03 AM   
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Discharge in the city limits.
Discharge near pedestrians.
Property damage.
At least one count of assault with a deadly weapon for every round fired (there were apparently several and 2 hit the WH).
I'm sure there are a bunch more.
Can anyone else think of others?


Yeah, if someone wants to hand him over to HSA, he can go straight to gitmo as a non-military combatant. Buh Bye... Course Bush ain't president anymore and he survived the capture... So William's charges may be all he gets.



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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 7:29:26 AM   
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He was just charged with attempted assassination. It seems that his doughters were there with their grandmother. Seems appropriate to me.


Gramps is right...
And here's his favorite Newscaster confirming that news


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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 9:33:17 AM   
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lovmuffin, The Secret Service doesn't need probable cause. Their job is to protect the president and his family. Nothing else matters.



good thing someone is protecting our rights!




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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 9:34:20 AM   
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He was just charged with attempted assassination. It seems that his doughters were there with their grandmother. Seems appropriate to me.


Gramps is right...
And here's his favorite Newscaster confirming that news


Anti-Christ?.......


Where have we heard that term used before?

http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+antichrist&hl=en&prmd=imvnsu&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fJbGTrTXGuLt0gGjv8kc&ved=0CEoQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=537




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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 4:13:30 PM   
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Anti-Christ?.......
Where have we heard that term used before?


Check the Tea Party platform or the Lawn Signs in front of Willbe's house.



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RE: White House shooting - 11/18/2011 4:14:49 PM   
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Anti-Christ?.......
Where have we heard that term used before?


Check the Tea Party platform or the Lawn Signs in front of Willbe's house.




We don't permit lawn signs.

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