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Wicca - 5/27/2006 7:16:29 AM

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Could someone explain to me what being a Wican is? What I know about it( which is very little) I find interesting. Thanks.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 7:41:26 AM

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cuddleheart50,

A Wiccan is a person who practices Wicca. Wicca is considered witchcraft by many. Since "witchcraft" has a negitive connotation, it is often assumed that the religion/spirituality is bad. It will depend on your viewpoint as to if this is true for you.

If you do a seach on Wicca on the internet, you'll find lots of information. Here's one site:
http://www.wiccanglade.com/leabwi.html

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 7:44:27 AM

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Thank you MasterFireMaam.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 9:22:28 AM

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There are a couple different thigns that are meant when one says "wicca." It's used to mean very modern neo-wicca aka neo-paganism (among other names) which is a combination of the Wicca created by Raymon Buckland and Gerald Gardener (and others, of course) in the 60's/70. Neo-wicca seems to have very few cohesive tenets, though some argue the Wiccan Rede is universal law for Wiccans (I'd argue against this, because that seems to apply only to neo-wiccans and not those who are invovled inmore traditional covens). Basically, and pretty generically, I'd call it a nature-based religion which is often polytheistic and worships a Goddess as well as a God and follows the cycle of the natural year. Practioners often use magic as a way of worship or to affect the world or to focus one's will. One is likely to see a lot of disparate elements put together in the religion of a practitioner of Neo-Wicca, as in Gods and Goddesses from different pantheons. Neo-Wicca, while often using covens to gather people is much less an initiative and mystery-based relgion.

On the other hand, more traditional Wicca (including, but not limited to British Traditional Wicca and Dianic Wicca) is mystery based and initiative, with members meeting in covens. This is much closer to the religion founded by Gardener and others. One who isn't initiated is unlikely to be able to get much information about this faith, because members are expected to be more secretive. I can't give a whole lot of information about more traditional sects, because I don't practice any of them and am not invovled in a coven. If you're talking in terms of these sects, a Wicca is an initiated practioner -only- and not someone who is learning. That is, if you're being trained by a coven, but have not been initiated into the faith, you are a seeker or a learner or an initiate, but -not- a Wicca. (My understanding of this breaks down pretty fast, my exposure is minimal).

None of this should be confused, of course, with other pagan religions. Many practice simply witchcraft, not Wicca. Others are Gnostics or Discordians or Druids or...heck..tons. Still falls under the "pagan" banner and is often and incorectly refered to as Wicca.

Hrm. I have a feeling that might have been more confusing than anything.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 12:04:30 PM

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cuddleheart, Wicca can be good or bad i depends, there are lots of people who practice it. http://www.magickaschool.com/,
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm,
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_hist.htm
here is a few site that might help.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 1:34:19 PM

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Thanks for all of the info...looks like im going to be doing alot of reading..lol

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 2:15:24 PM

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perverseangelic said it pretty well...there's solitary wicca and eclectic wicca, which have kind of gotten away from gardner's original intent, and then there is coven-based wicca, which is more traditional, but as a whole, wicca is a neopagan religion that was formed by gardner (mainly, though there are others who are considered very influential) around the 50s. the beliefs are a mishmash of celtic pagan, buddhist, hindu, and others. witchcraft is separate from wicca; witchcraft is simply the practice of magic (i define magic as using energy work to affect changes in the world around you or in yourself) and may or may not be combined with wicca. some witches are wiccan, some are not; some wiccans are witches, some are not. if you're more interested in celtic paganism, i'd consider checking out celtic reconstructonist sects. is there something in particular you're wondering about? i've studied and practiced various forms of paganism for the past 9 years, and wicca was sort of my gateway - i studied it heavily for about three years - so i don't know everything but i might be able to help a bit. :)

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 2:42:26 PM

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Would it be fair to say Wiccans worhip the "created" along with the "creative" force? Asked the question cause it might help the Ops question.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 2:53:14 PM

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you could say that, i think, slavejali :) in my experience, the majority of wiccans believe, as someone else said, in a goddess and god, and that all goddesses are one goddess, etc. i've also found that many believe that the goddess and god are simply male and female aspects of what you refer to as the creative force. then of course pantheism is found often in wicca...worship of divinity in nature, etc., seeing all created things as inherently worthy of worship. am i making any sense at all? hehehe.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 4:47:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fullofgrace

you could say that, i think, slavejali :) in my experience, the majority of wiccans believe, as someone else said, in a goddess and god, and that all goddesses are one goddess, etc. i've also found that many believe that the goddess and god are simply male and female aspects of what you refer to as the creative force. then of course pantheism is found often in wicca...worship of divinity in nature, etc., seeing all created things as inherently worthy of worship. am i making any sense at all? hehehe.

I've actually found the exact opposite to be true in terms of "all goddesses are one goddess" but then, my Wiccan aquaintences are strictly polytheistic.

It's so hard to comment on Wicca itself because I don't know anyone who's actually an initiate.

Neopaganism, and Neo-Wicca, though, much easier to comment on. Actually, if one is interested in Neo-Wicca I'd reccomend Scott Cunningham's Wicca For the Solitary Practioner. 's one of the first books I read when I left Christianity. I didn't know untill a lot later that a lot of what he says is -not- from traditional Wicca, though. The people that I know say that a solitary traditional Wiccan is an oxymoron.

hehehe. I'll stick to "witch." There's a lot less to explain that way.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 5:56:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: perverseangelic
It's so hard to comment on Wicca itself because I don't know anyone who's actually an initiate.

Are you quite sure.... and it depends what you mean by know *g* (Actualy I don't use the lable any more because my standpoint has moved on rather a lot since leaving the coven 12 or so years ago)

To answer jali's question, some do, some don't. Even within a single coven you will have a range of viewpoints as to where certain lines are drawn.... wither things are seperate in their own right or mearly aspects.

But yes, in general it would be fair to state that 'in principle' wiccans acknowledge the created along with the creative.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 6:42:07 PM

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Being a witch...(I laugh). If you learn anything - know this - witches CARE and FEEL, wish for good.

I do not practice ANYTHING...except my intuition, etc.

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RE: Wicca - 5/27/2006 6:49:22 PM

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All of this is so interesting, I have no plans to practice this...but find it interesting to learn about.

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