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RE: D/s Engagement Rings and Wedding Ceremonies - 5/29/2006 8:48:33 AM   
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Well the thing is, a lot of theologists debate on this one but the premarital sex thing is mainly based on these ideas ...

1.) When a woman had sex for the first time, that man became her husband. Whether she'd made the vow or not, he was her husband. This included if she was a virgin and got raped. Her lack of hymen spoiled her for any other man.

2.) Multiple sex partners means greater risk of STDs ... So, a lot of people believe that like many of God's rules for His children, no premarital sex is a way of protecting us from catching cooties. Besides that, they didnt really have reliable birth control back then so what happened to the child if an unmarried woman got pregnant? It was just better for everyone involved if she was safely married and a man was responsible for her and her child.

3.) The Hebrew marriage ceremony actually involved a covenant of blood ... Virgin blood ... I'm not clear on the all the details but basically the sheets are kept with the blood stains on them so that if at any point in the future there is any dispute over the marriage or the promise or anything at all, those sheets can be whipped out and everyone can be reminded of the blood covenant.

Now with that said, yes poly was accepted back then. Basically a man could have as many wives as he could support. More wives meant more sons ... More sons meant more wealth. The thing is, the first wife gets to choose any of the other wives. Its not like he could just run out and pick any woman he wanted.

I'm not Catholic and I'm sure the Catholic reason behind all of it is different but thats how it was explained to me ...


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RE: D/s Engagement Rings and Wedding Ceremonies - 5/29/2006 12:12:43 PM   
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Thorns and i were married on December 31, 2005.  He did give me an engagement ring on my birthday, December 24th.  What He did has more meaning than picking one out at any store.  He knows i have many types of loose stones in my collection of Jewelry.  He also knows there are a select few that were given to me by my beloved Grandfather.  He took two of those stones and went to a jeweler, had a ring made that symbolized "Us".  The two stones He chose were the ones my beloved Grandfather gave my Grandmother for her engagement ring....so it has many meanings.
We ended up getting our marriage license on the morning of December 31st....we walked down the next block and went into the Justice of the Peace, had one of the guards serve as a witness, a few moments later, we were married.  It was awesome!
I also should state that our wedding bands are circled with Thorns.......how appropriate.  *grinz*

Happy Memorial Day!

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RE: D/s Engagement Rings and Wedding Ceremonies - 5/31/2006 2:24:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: feastie

The only one I can think of is Thou shalt not commit adultery.  But isn't adultery committed once you're married?
 Well, way back then, the term adultery (or the term that they used at the time) meant sleeping with another man's wife.  It wasn't considered adultery back then for a married man to sleep with another woman, as long as she wasn't married.  :) -Cav's ally

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RE: D/s Engagement Rings and Wedding Ceremonies - 5/31/2006 2:37:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: allyC

quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper 
i have a need to be married to my One, in part because (at least for the time being) i am a devote Catholic and pre-marital sex is a violation of the Ten Commandments.
 Hiya! I am rackin' my brains here trying to figure out which commandment pre-marital sex violates.   Help me out?  *grins* Cav's ally


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I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, YOU SHALL HAVE no other gods BEFORE ME.
 




II 

 
YOU SHALL NOT MISUSE THE NAME OF THE LORD YOUR GOD.
 




III 

 
REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY BY KEEPING IT HOLY.
 




IV 

 
HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER.
 





 
YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.
 




VI 

 
YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.
 




VII 

 
YOU SHALL NOT STEAL.
 




VIII 

 
YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE TESTIMONY AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOR.
 




IX 

 
 YOU SHALL NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR'S WIFE.
  
In the Catholic Catechism (the current one), "adultery" is widely interpretated as "sex between two people withthe benefit of the sacrament of marriage.
 
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RE: D/s Engagement Rings and Wedding Ceremonies - 5/31/2006 2:50:37 AM   
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pinkee



Hey.... where did Candystriper go? LMAO!



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RE: D/s Engagement Rings and Wedding Ceremonies - 5/31/2006 4:19:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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pinkee



Hey.... where did Candystriper go? LMAO!



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i suppose this is a fair question.  Well, there were many reasons i changed my nick.  i have been nicked:
 
pink20nails
shyster
fillepink
delectablepink
candystripper
 
and now..pinkee.
 
My reasons for changing my nick were all sort of intuitive.
 
1.  i really did not think A/anyone else would care, though i did announce it in the "introductions" section as P/people would probably want to recognise me.
 
2.  There's something simple and very feminine about "pinkee".  i polled my Dom and Master friends on my yahoo IM, and the vote was "yes".
 
3.  i have evolved some as a submisssive and wanted a totally new profile.
 
There were other reasons as well, but that's really about it.

pinkee

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