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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:47:03 PM   
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Actually, it does. The fact that they hide it from those they know, yet they play at it in front of others shows neither know much about humiliation and they are more concerned about people they know being uncomfortable.. yet do not give any thought to those they do not know.
Ooooooor they want to avoid having to answer questions from those who know that will end up with them having to reveal the humiliation game, which then would make the people aware. Or maybe because the people they know don't know about the D/s aspect of their relationship, or...well any number of other possibilities.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:48:27 PM   
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I dont call him "Sir" in public. That title is reserved for my father and other men of his age and up.
Nice dodge, how about you answer the question.

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How can you be sure they are unharmed, unaffected or unaware?
Well, unaware is obvious, there's no way they could be unless you told them why you were doing it, and the other two, well that was my reason for asking about the regular street Christians. Which question you also dodged.

Hmmmmm, I see a pattern developing here.




You asked...

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What about calling your Dom "Sir" in public, is that OK?


I do not call him "Sir" I do call other men "Sir". That isnt a dodge, your question was answered.

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Well, unaware is obvious, there's no way they could be unless you told them why you were doing it, and the other two, well that was my reason for asking about the regular street Christians. Which question you also dodged


Being unaware doesnt require being vocal about that awareness. And you asking about the regular street christians really doesnt support your argument because those the OP's girlfriend would be approaching wouldnt be known to her as a "Christian".

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Hmmmmm, I see a pattern developing here.


I do too. You saying whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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RE: ideas for leftist humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:48:51 PM   
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Someone who is being "forced" isnt likely to react with only pity.
When did I say I was being forced? Please give me a link or two.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:50:10 PM   
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Ooooooor they want to avoid having to answer questions from those who know that will end up with them having to reveal the humiliation game, which then would make the people aware. Or maybe because the people they know don't know about the D/s aspect of their relationship, or...well any number of other possibilities.


And yet hannah, according to you, wears a cross.. or was it heather.. no matter. Many people wear a cross who are not religious. Why would the OP's girl friend be any different?

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RE: ideas for leftist humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:53:11 PM   
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Someone who is being "forced" isnt likely to react with only pity.
When did I say I was being forced? Please give me a link or two.


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3933143

Now since you are in a demanding mood of having your questions answered. Why havent you answered the questions about your surveys? Why do you give them? Who are they given too? What questions do you ask? Where is the survey in question? And who is the survey given for?

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:54:11 PM   
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I do not call him "Sir" I do call other men "Sir". That isnt a dodge, your question was answered.
Generic "your" sorry if that wasn't clear, let me rephrase: What about those people who do call their Dom "Sir" in public, is that OK?

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Being unaware doesnt require being vocal about that awareness. And you asking about the regular street christians really doesnt support your argument because those the OP's girlfriend would be approaching wouldnt be known to her as a "Christian".
The "street Christians" are the ones doing the asking. I use that term for them because there is one outreach group that recruits street kids to hand out their tracts here in Ottawa, so most of the ones I encounter are just that that street Christians.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:56:36 PM   
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Generic "your" sorry if that wasn't clear, let me rephrase: What about those people who do call their Dom "Sir" in public, is that OK?


Yes. Because that term is also used a sign of respect that holds no D/s connotation. Now, would using the term slut, bitch or other terms of endearments to the D/s community be acceptable around people who are vanilla? Hardly.

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The "street Christians" are the ones doing the asking. I use that term for them because there is one outreach group that recruits street kids to hand out their tracts here in Ottawa, so most of the ones I encounter are just that that street Christians.


Most? What about those who arent? The OP isnt from Ottawa. And its a term I have never encountered in the US. So he would have her talking to people she "believed" were christians without knowing for sure.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 12:59:05 PM   
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personally if someone were to try and humilate me by using their idea of religion humiliation, it wouldbe a deal breaker, they would be very lonely very quickly and probably trying to retrieve said " symbol "from where the sun doesnt shine.
I came here cos I was sick of seeing the humiliation for leftists (thankyou for changing it back). but thats just my two cents.


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RE: ideas for leftist humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:00:02 PM   
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Sorry, I didn't say I was being forced, I asked why others were allowed to force their beliefs on us, and I used that term because I was replying to you, and you used it.

I have never said I resented being asked if I was saved, or if I have found Christ, or being handed pamphlets. And that's because I don't. I'm not Hannah, I don't hold the same views on religion as Hannah.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:01:51 PM   
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Sorry, I didn't say I was being forced, I asked why others were allowed to force their beliefs on us, and I used that term because I was replying to you, and you used it.

I have never said I resented being asked if I was saved, or if I have found Christ, or being handed pamphlets. And that's because I don't. I'm not Hannah, I don't hold the same views on religion as Hannah.



In order to force, someone has to be forced. Cause and effect.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:03:33 PM   
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lol.. sorry Lucy. We changed it a while back. Guess the lingering effects of ABM are unmistakable... lol

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:04:50 PM   
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Yes. Because that term is also used a sign of respect that holds no D/s connotation.
In other words, because the public is unaware of the kink aspect of the term being used. But, I suspect that a woman calling a man roughly her age "Sir" would raise more eyebrows than would a woman asking if somebody had been saved. Don't you think?

And here's another question; what if the sub feels humiliated having to call her Dom "Sir" in public, what if that's why they do it? Would that be subjecting the public to their kink?

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:07:30 PM   
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Most? What about those who arent? The OP isnt from Ottawa. And its a term I have never encountered in the US. So he would have her talking to people she "believed" were christians without knowing for sure.
What??? Do you actually read what you reply to? When I asked about street Christians, I was asking if it was OK for the non-kink/humiliation play people who ask people on the street if they have been saved to do so.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:09:02 PM   
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Sorry, I didn't say I was being forced, I asked why others were allowed to force their beliefs on us, and I used that term because I was replying to you, and you used it.

I have never said I resented being asked if I was saved, or if I have found Christ, or being handed pamphlets. And that's because I don't. I'm not Hannah, I don't hold the same views on religion as Hannah.



In order to force, someone has to be forced. Cause and effect.


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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:10:32 PM   
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In other words, because the public is unaware of the kink aspect of the term being used. But, I suspect that a woman calling a man roughly her age "Sir" would raise more eyebrows than would a woman asking if somebody had been saved. Don't you think?


Not at all. I see it all the time. Dont know why you would believe others would find it strange.

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And here's another question; what if the sub feels humiliated having to call her Dom "Sir" in public, what if that's why they do it? Would that be subjecting the public to their kink?


How would that be pulling others into their kink play? Do they involve others? Or is it just the embarrassment of the sub having people overhear her call a man something other women and men call other men everyday? In that case, its their play, no others are involved.

You are missing the point. The subs embarrassment is not my issue. thats on her and him. When others are embarrassed, then its the issue. No one else would be embarrassed by a woman calling a man "Sir".

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:12:41 PM   
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Sorry, I didn't say I was being forced, I asked why others were allowed to force their beliefs on us, and I used that term because I was replying to you, and you used it.

I have never said I resented being asked if I was saved, or if I have found Christ, or being handed pamphlets. And that's because I don't. I'm not Hannah, I don't hold the same views on religion as Hannah.



In order to force, someone has to be forced. Cause and effect.




But it is the term you used. Raising the font doesnt change that fact. If someone uses a wrong term with me, I correct it.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:15:07 PM   
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Most? What about those who arent? The OP isnt from Ottawa. And its a term I have never encountered in the US. So he would have her talking to people she "believed" were christians without knowing for sure.
What??? Do you actually read what you reply to? When I asked about street Christians, I was asking if it was OK for the non-kink/humiliation play people who ask people on the street if they have been saved to do so.


I dont have an opinion on that one way or the other. I never encounter it.. ever. But you were the one who indicated it bothered you. So that is why I asked why would you do to others what you dont like happening to you.

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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:27:36 PM   
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Someone who is being "forced" isnt likely to react with only pity.
When did I say I was being forced? Please give me a link or two.


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3933143

Now since you are in a demanding mood of having your questions answered. Why havent you answered the questions about your surveys? Why do you give them? Who are they given too? What questions do you ask? Where is the survey in question? And who is the survey given for?


Since this is something you are obviously avoiding, I will exit this thread. You have made assertions you cannot, or will not, prove, yet expect everyone to play by your rules.

I have made my point, quite well. The same point others have made repeatedly. When you decide to answer the questions about your "surveys" then perhaps we can revisit that question.



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RE: ideas for leftist humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:36:47 PM   
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I would be interested in seeing the questions asked on this "survey" and knowing what the purpose is that it is being conducted.


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3845666 from this thread: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3842834

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3860005 from somewhere in this thread: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3847974/mpage_1/tm.htm

and
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3927162 from the transgender thread.




Jst pointed these out.. thank you Jst!

They still do not answer my questions. I would need to see the whole question list.. from start to finish. A link to the survey questions would be wonderful. Typically they are available anytime a survey is mentioned. There is a specific reason I am asking for those.

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Why do you give them? Who are they given too? What questions do you ask? Where is the survey in question? And who is the survey given for?


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RE: ideas for christian humiliation - 11/22/2011 1:51:12 PM   
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In my mind, making her wear something in public like a "Hannah Montana" t-shirt with pink ribbons in her hair would be way more humiliating. Seriously, most people hardly bat an eyelash at the sight of somebody wearing a cross around their neck. lol





Im guessing the point it to humiliate her. The fact that others may see it has no bearing on the issue. I still think its lame to do it just to push a issue. But that's another topic.

Ive not seen any Jesus freak <the term i use for all Christians and I happen to be one> haters on here.

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