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GotSteel -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 2:04:35 PM)

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tazzygirl -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 2:12:50 PM)

Ok.. I cant help it... Thats funny!




straponprincess1 -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 2:20:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: poise

It can't be that humiliating if you are allowing her to hide it.


That's exactly what I was thinking.




Arpig -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 2:25:27 PM)

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Which question you also dodged.

Hmmmmm, I see a pattern developing here.
Welcome to Talking with Tazzy [:D]

That woman has the world's most mobile goalposts.




Arpig -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 2:38:15 PM)

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Why havent you answered the questions about your surveys?
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3933226




tazzygirl -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 2:42:21 PM)

Ya need to catch up here, Arpig. You are gettig slow in your old age. [;)]




Arpig -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 2:46:15 PM)

Bite me 




tazzygirl -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 3:01:48 PM)

[:D]




gungadin09 -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 3:03:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SuzeQ
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For example, let's say the submissive is supposed to embarrass themselves by going into a McDonalds and making some kind of a scene.
Causing a scene will disturb the other patrons, so I agree that isn't really kosher, but asking "Have you been saved?" doesn't disturb anybody.

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Walking into an adult store and asking the cashier where you can try on the butt plug you're buying, because you're supposed to wear it home, would definitely cross the line, in my book.
Why? Would you consider it wrong to ask where you can put on the shirt you just bought because you're supposed to wear it home? They're selling butt plugs, so its not like they don't know its going to get shoved up somebody's ass sooner or later.


It seems like we agree it's wrong for a person to allow their kink to unduly disturb others, regardless of whether the people being disturbed are aware that it's being done for kink.  We just disagree on exactly what "unduly disturbing others" means.  As i right?  But somewhere between feeling mildly embarrassed for someone, and being downright offended by their behavior, we're both drawing a line.  If you want to draw that line in a slightly different place than i do, i'm cool with that. 

For the record,  i do find it mildly irritating when missionaries knock at my door, when the guy at the supermarket asks me to sign a petition, when some random person tries to get me to take a survey, asks me for directions, when the crazy guy walks into McDonalds and causes a scene...  I consider all of those impositions on the public.  If i'm more tolerant of those impositions than i would be of someone making the same sort of mild imposition for the sake of kink- it's because i think in THOSE cases the person has a better, less frivolous reason for disturbing people, because they have no control over their actions, or because i see that it would be difficult for them to accomplish their goals any other way, and i take those factors into account when i judge their behavior.

pam




AdorkableAiley -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 3:03:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lookingforyou123

we're still feeling stuff out and doing soft stuff, we've been together a while and just trying a couple things, i latched onto this because it was something she felt strongly one way on, and I just want to see how far I can take it is all


Yeah, I don't get this. Making someone do something they will be unhappy or uncofertable with isn't really what domination is all about (at least not in my world... it's a nice place you should all come visit :P) doing something just because you can doesn't make you a good Dom, though I suppose her doing things that she hates because you've asked makes her a good sub at least :D

Ailey




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 3:08:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Bite me 



Does Tazzy like BABY FOOD?!! [sm=rofl.gif]





lookingforyou123 -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 3:40:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

I'm very late to this thread but I would like to say something....I have done this before. I knew a very strong atheist that often mocked others faith(s) When I told him that he would face things he was not used to he said "fine" I too made him wear a cross but told him that everytime he saw another of his friends he was to go out of his way(meaning make it obvious) that he was hiding it. He tucked in under his shirt or pulled his jacket over it, really anything he could do to cover it. As far as I know none of them ever knew what he covered up so quickly but it took him less than a week to see the point I was making. That his mocking was no better or worse than anything they believed to begin with. He is still an atheist which is great because I in no way wanted to change what he really believed.....I just wanted him to see what it was like to some on the other side. He told me he was humiliated many times by the idea that he had to hide something and that he learned something as well.

*I really wish the op would come back and give more information*

ETA- and before anyone asks if what I did was a "kink" it didn't really start out that way but I did get a tickle out of hitting someone in the face with reality....actually that might my favorite kink.


Thank you everyone for responding.  I really enjoyed reading everyone's responses.  A couple clarifying points for anyone still interested in me and my situation

- this isn't a very hard humiliation like I believe some people are picturing.  I'm not trying to give her a nervous breakdown over it or anything like that, im just testing the waters and so is she.

-the idea of involving anyone else by talking about religion in public was not and will not be something I want to participate in.  It's fun for me cuz it is our secret, and I want to keep it that way.  If I was someone on the street and outside the situation, I wouldn't want anyone to involve me.

-some ideas, like the prayer before meals, and just going and sitting through a mass might be something I have her do.  Another thing that I believe I will explore is getting a WWJD shirt as it makes it more pronounced, and she'll wear it while we take a tour of an old church or maybe churches.  Perhaps this is more vanilla than most people picture but I think its something I want to try.

I really specifically enjoyed the quoted post above (not sure if I got the forum working correctly) I have noticed a slight change in her behavior, which is interesting.  I don't mean to change her views (partly because I share them) but it is interesting to have this new perspective 




tazzygirl -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 4:06:56 PM)

The t-shirt idea is a cute one. Having her go to mass somewhere is an idea too.

Here is another. You could invite friends over, telling them she lost a bet... but not telling her that you told them. Then have her come out, kneel at your feet and recite bible verses. Your friends are in on the joke, she is embarrassed... win win situation for you.




Ishtarr -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 4:10:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SuzeQ

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I was specifically referring to asking someone if they've been saved as part of her humiliation.
Once again, why? How is it different? Other than that it touches on religion. Is what we do with our surveys for the boards crossing the line?


I'm assuming that you use ethical guidelines when you conduct a public survey (but that assumption obviously may be wrong).

This means that when you approach people in public, you tell them something along this line:

"Excuse me, but we're conducting a survey that deals with sexual preferences. Would you mind me asking you some questions?"

People at that point have a choice to either consent or refuse to consent to your survey.
Unless of course you approach people be immediately asking something like this:

"Hi, do you enjoy being fucked in the ass by a strap-on and do you think that makes you gay?"

When religious people approach others by immediately saying:

"Have you been saved?"

They force people into a position of talking about their religious views, without the option to consent to this.
That's a whole different approach than:

"Excuse me, would you mind talking to me about my savior for a moment?"

Either a blatant question to a stranger about sexuality or the bullying a stranger into a conversation about religious view is just poor form, and rude. Because it forces people into a position they explicitly didn't consent to.

Doing this in a kinky setting is just as wrong as when a religious person does it out of conviction. If you want to approach a stranger with potentially embarrassing and confrontational questions, the polite thing to do is make them aware of this BEFORE you bully them into a conversation they may not want to take part of.




HeatherMcLeather -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 5:32:33 PM)

NM





SuzeQ -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 6:10:51 PM)

Rather than making a bunch of  individual posts, I'm just going to respond to all yours in one big post. Here we go.

In reply to post 255
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Not at all. I see it all the time. Dont know why you would believe others would find it strange.
Nor do I see anything strange about a born-again doing their thing.

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When others are embarrassed, then its the issue. No one else would be embarrassed by a woman calling a man "Sir".
And no one is embarrassed by being handed a pamphlet or being asked if they have been saved, so what's the difference?

In reply to post 257
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I never encounter it.. ever.
You've never been approached on the street by somebody offering you some Jesus saves pamphlet, or asking if you've been saved or if you've accepted Christ, or had them come to your door? Never a Mormon or Jehovah's Witness knocking at your door, ever? Now you're lying.

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But you were the one who indicated it bothered you.
No I didn't, not to to my recollection.

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So that is why I asked why would you do to others what you dont like happening to you.
I never said I would, I only asked why it is OK for somebody to do it, but wrong if they are doing it for humiliation play.


In reply to post 258
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Since this is something you are obviously avoiding
I assume you mean this:
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Now since you are in a demanding mood of having your questions answered. Why havent you answered the questions about your surveys? Why do you give them? Who are they given too? What questions do you ask? Where is the survey in question? And who is the survey given for?
Well, its not so much as I avoided those questions, its just that they weren't there when I replied to that post. There was a minute and a bit between when you posted and when you were done editing, and that's when I started my reply. Sorry.

The answers to all your questions though were provided in the various threads I linked you to.
~Why do you give them? For the Hell of it, its fun, it gives us some sort of data to discuss on the boards rather than just claiming people think this way or that way. We do it when we are asked to or when somebody suggests one.
~Who are they given too? Random people on our school campuses and at the mall.
~What questions do you ask? Whatever questions whoever asks us to ask, or are decided on by the people posting on that thread in question at the time we're settling on the question.
~Where is the survey in question? Posted in whatever thread it pertains to and in the Survey Service thread.
~And who is the survey given for? Whoever asks for it, or just whoever is posting on the thread in question at the time the suggestion is made.

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You have made assertions you cannot, or will not, prove, yet expect everyone to play by your rules.
What assertion have I made? I don't recall making any assertions, let alone one that I have been asked to prove. And what rules have I even mentioned let alone asked anybody to play by?

In reply to post 259
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I would need to see the whole question list.. from start to finish. A link to the survey questions would be wonderful. Typically they are available anytime a survey is mentioned.
Its all in the links you were given. I guess you didn't actually click them.

In reply to post 274
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Here is another. You could invite friends over, telling them she lost a bet... but not telling her that you told them. Then have her come out, kneel at your feet and recite bible verses. Your friends are in on the joke, she is embarrassed... win win situation for you.
Well, except that your friends aren't in on the kink if you tell them she lost a bet. You're lying to them to get them to play along, you're directly involving people in your kink without their consent.





SuzeQ -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 6:15:02 PM)

Thanks for answering Ishtarr. So, just to clarify, if he had his sub go around asking people: "Excuse me, would you mind talking to me about my savior for a moment?" as part of their humiliation play, you would consider that acceptable?




tazzygirl -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 6:41:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SuzeQ

Thanks for answering Ishtarr. So, just to clarify, if he had his sub go around asking people: "Excuse me, would you mind talking to me about my savior for a moment?" as part of their humiliation play, you would consider that acceptable?


Ishtarr took care of the questions you refused to answer by stating what I was thinking.

Thank you Ishtarr.

As far as this being acceptable... I think, once again, Ishtarr answered your question already.




tazzygirl -> RE: ideas for christian humiliation (11/22/2011 6:46:24 PM)

Im sorry, thats a very lazy way of responding.

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The answers to all your questions though were provided in the various threads I linked you to.
~Why do you give them? For the Hell of it, its fun, it gives us some sort of data to discuss on the boards rather than just claiming people think this way or that way. We do it when we are asked to or when somebody suggests one.
~Who are they given too? Random people on our school campuses and at the mall.
~What questions do you ask? Whatever questions whoever asks us to ask, or are decided on by the people posting on that thread in question at the time we're settling on the question.
~Where is the survey in question? Posted in whatever thread it pertains to and in the Survey Service thread.
~And who is the survey given for? Whoever asks for it, or just whoever is posting on the thread in question at the time the suggestion is made.


I asked for the specific questions. And Ishtarr gave you the clue as to why. And, yes, you are pulling people into your kink without consent. I realize you think its cute... when someone gets angry enough, then let us know about it.

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Its all in the links you were given. I guess you didn't actually click them.


If your surveys were for school, or in any way scientific, you would have the results published on line. Sort of answers that question for me.

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Well, except that your friends aren't in on the kink if you tell them she lost a bet. You're lying to them to get them to play along, you're directly involving people in your kink without their consent.


You have obtained their consent to be a witness to what is happening... which is all I ever asked for. [;)]





SuzeQ -> RE: ideas for leftist humiliation (11/22/2011 6:47:50 PM)

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Ishtarr took care of the questions you refused to answer
What questions have I refused to answer? I've answered every one of your weird questions, its what I've been doing for pages. You haven't answered any of mine.

So how about you answer the question I asked Ishtarr?





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