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RE: Battle of the sexes - 5/30/2006 5:58:10 AM

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Whether we like it or not there is something subliminal going, certainly for hetrosexuals as each individual battles and schemes for a mate. The question is whether you want to be conscious of it or not. Anthropologists , psychologists and just about every other 'ist' has studied the battle of the sexes, the the term 'battle of the sexes' is somewhat provocative but competition there certainly is, whether we like it or not.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 5/30/2006 7:52:46 AM

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I'm a male dominant, and I've never had any trouble with contests in which females defeat males. I don't find myself naturally wanting men to triumph or taking greater pleasure when they do; whatever the game, the best woman or man should win, and I'll root for whomever I like the best.

Then again, I'm not in an M/s relationship in order to uphold the honor of my gender, and I don't tie my dominance into any Hobbesian, animal urge latent in Man as such. For me, it's much more personal than that.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 5/30/2006 8:04:26 AM

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I haven't done anything that was "battle of the sexes" like since grade school -- seemed childish to me then even and was usually set up by fools in my opinion.

I much prerfered to play in mixed sex groups and I was usually on the winning side because I was either wanted for my size and skill (I was always a big girl who threw and caught well) or for my strategies.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 5/30/2006 10:15:45 AM

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Intresting answers .. "we have enough of battle of sexes scenarios in real life"..could you specift if possible..
So the intergender matches in wrestling intrest you irrespective of the fact who is the winner.. the idea of inter gender wrestling is yummy..anyways lots of us do playfite during the sex..

Fashion, equal rights, employment, marriage, health care, parenting, on and on...
Although things aren't as bad as they have been in history, pitting men against women (and vice-versa) is readily available everywhere one turns. A prime example is in the divorce court, where fathers have to compete excessively to gain equality as parents. In the workforce, women have to compete excessively for equal wages/positioning with men. Girls have to prove themselves more to make the cut on co-ed sports teams. Men have to fight for paternity leave that's granted without question to females. Girls have to prove themselves in science and math. Boys are teased for taking home-ec. Single mothers can receive more government benefits than single fathers.
The examples of how people are fighting against each other based on gender are endless.
Like I said, we have enough of it in life without deliberately set it up as entertainment.

And yes, inter-gender wrestling interests me regardless of the gender of the winner. If my favorite male wrestler is competing against a female wrestler I dislike, I'll cheer for him. If my favorite female wrestler is competing against a male I dislike, I'll cheer for her.
I cheer for the person I like.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 5/30/2006 11:19:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Whether we like it or not there is something subliminal going, certainly for hetrosexuals as each individual battles and schemes for a mate. The question is whether you want to be conscious of it or not. Anthropologists , psychologists and just about every other 'ist' has studied the battle of the sexes, the the term 'battle of the sexes' is somewhat provocative but competition there certainly is, whether we like it or not.

Yes thats what exactly what i meant.. if so many of reality shows are based on it then there has to be something intresting and provocative about it..well i can say about me i find it intresting and not from the gender point of view but it creates some kind of thrill.. i dunno why ..lol.. and i think there must be few like me too..

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/1/2006 8:24:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: taziesubguy
Intresting answers .. "we have enough of battle of sexes scenarios in real life"..could you specift if possible..
So the intergender matches in wrestling intrest you irrespective of the fact who is the winner.. the idea of inter gender wrestling is yummy..anyways lots of us do playfite during the sex..

Fashion, equal rights, employment, marriage, health care, parenting, on and on...
Although things aren't as bad as they have been in history, pitting men against women (and vice-versa) is readily available everywhere one turns. A prime example is in the divorce court, where fathers have to compete excessively to gain equality as parents. In the workforce, women have to compete excessively for equal wages/positioning with men. Girls have to prove themselves more to make the cut on co-ed sports teams. Men have to fight for paternity leave that's granted without question to females. Girls have to prove themselves in science and math. Boys are teased for taking home-ec. Single mothers can receive more government benefits than single fathers.
The examples of how people are fighting against each other based on gender are endless.
Like I said, we have enough of it in life without deliberately set it up as entertainment.

And yes, inter-gender wrestling interests me regardless of the gender of the winner. If my favorite male wrestler is competing against a female wrestler I dislike, I'll cheer for him. If my favorite female wrestler is competing against a male I dislike, I'll cheer for her.
I cheer for the person I like.

You always give intresting answers.. you are right we get ample oppurtunities where genders battle among themselves whether it is in work place or anywhere else and the gender which is more competent in a certain field wins more ..
where do you get to watch intergender wrestling matches and i think men must be winning more in this field.. in fact in most sports men win more in intergender matches except to a certain age in schools where girls beat guys more in sports too..

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/1/2006 12:01:54 PM

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I think I would only be interested as a participant. Watching wouldn't make much of an impression on me.

It doesn't bother me at all that some men prefer to be submissive to women. What consenting adults prefer is always between them.

As for real-life, certainly there have been times when an assertive, yet basically submissive partner has "battled" for the fun of it.

... for the FUN of it.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/1/2006 7:50:25 PM

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i was looking for the fact that as a dom do we mind losing to a sub and as a sub do we want to lose to a dom..

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/2/2006 8:06:56 AM

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I would not be happy to lose. I would get over it.

There is something to be said for picking your battles....

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/2/2006 8:14:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

I would not be happy to lose. I would get over it.

There is something to be said for picking your battles....

How would you react if your sub girl friend or spouse beats you in an event.. would you get angry at her..
Thats what my ques. was.. does a domme gets angry when his own sub beats him/her at anything and do subs give a good fight to the dommes or they prefer to lose to their doms..

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/2/2006 9:29:11 PM

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(1) Do most people like battle of the sexes or not..

For me, competion is competition. Plain and simple. I love it. Although I do not like to have to prove myself to be considered equals with males, or females. I also don't like crossing the gender issue because I really don't know what gender I really fit into, other than that I am a born female.

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(2) Have you ever watched or been a part of Battle of the sexes.

Yes. When I was younger, I had to prove that the boys didn't have to worry about hurting me and that I was strong enough, so I could play with them. This has probably shaped the sadomasochist I am today..

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(3) Being a male sub and I can also think about female dommes that they like when girls win but do female subs too cheer for the girls.
(4) Do male doms like these events and dont mind females competing against males

Does not apply to genderqueers like me.

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(5) And finaly did any real life incident happened where doms or subs latent feelings came out in open..

Yes. My childhood was loaded with having to prove I was a worthy opponent. At the same time, I was trodden upon as being the outcast. So I fought the idea of submissiveness because I had been walked over all my earlier life and never liked hearing that it was "the way I should be".

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/2/2006 10:40:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: taziesubguy

How would you react if your sub girl friend or spouse beats you in an event.. would you get angry at her..
Thats what my ques. was.. does a domme gets angry when his own sub beats him/her at anything and do subs give a good fight to the dommes or they prefer to lose to their doms..

Thanks for the clarification. Speaking only for myself, no. I hate to lose, but realize it's a consequence of any game. If I were to lose to my submissive partner, I might be momentarily frustrated, but only with myself.

My personal preference is for non-doormat partners, who have a submissive sexual desire. Thus, I expect and admire their strength - it's part of what makes dominating them satisfying.

Besides, everyone should win at something now and then. Our egos aren't that fragile, are they?

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/3/2006 12:01:51 AM

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When I was a teenager I was reasonably good at baseball and played in an expat league in a foreign country. We had some real athletes on that team, and attracted the interest of a few locals, who challenged us to a game against the local sports college. We trounced them, and were very pleased with ourselves, when we got another invitation: to play the national women's softball team in a fast-pitch game. We said sure, why not. We thought it would be fun to play a bunch of girls, and everyone knows that a big old softball is easy to hit.

Well, their pitcher was 6'2" and must have thrown about 70 miles per hour. (On a softball diamond, that's practically impossible to hit.) We lost 2-0, but it might as well have been 100-0. We would have been lucky to score a single run in three games against that team. Their fielders were like machines.

On the bus ride home, we were all disconsolate. A bunch of American guys losing a game of softball to a team of girls from some foreign country? What a disgrace! It took me a while to realize that losing 2-0 to a national softball team, male or female, is hardly a disgrace. (Just keeping them to two runs was a triumph in itself.) These were athletes who were devoting their lives to softball (even though it wasn't an Olympic sport back then); we were students who liked to play baseball on weekends and stuff.

I don't know what I really learned from that whole experience, except that playing against world-class athletes is an unforgettable experience, and that some women are 6'2" and throw real fucking fast. I don't think I'm less of a man just because I can't hit a 70-mph softball pitch.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/3/2006 8:26:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

When I was a teenager I was reasonably good at baseball and played in an expat league in a foreign country. We had some real athletes on that team, and attracted the interest of a few locals, who challenged us to a game against the local sports college. We trounced them, and were very pleased with ourselves, when we got another invitation: to play the national women's softball team in a fast-pitch game. We said sure, why not. We thought it would be fun to play a bunch of girls, and everyone knows that a big old softball is easy to hit.

Well, their pitcher was 6'2" and must have thrown about 70 miles per hour. (On a softball diamond, that's practically impossible to hit.) We lost 2-0, but it might as well have been 100-0. We would have been lucky to score a single run in three games against that team. Their fielders were like machines.

On the bus ride home, we were all disconsolate. A bunch of American guys losing a game of softball to a team of girls from some foreign country? What a disgrace! It took me a while to realize that losing 2-0 to a national softball team, male or female, is hardly a disgrace. (Just keeping them to two runs was a triumph in itself.) These were athletes who were devoting their lives to softball (even though it wasn't an Olympic sport back then); we were students who liked to play baseball on weekends and stuff.

I don't know what I really learned from that whole experience, except that playing against world-class athletes is an unforgettable experience, and that some women are 6'2" and throw real fucking fast. I don't think I'm less of a man just because I can't hit a 70-mph softball pitch.

Was it different losing to girls then a normal same sex team ..

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/3/2006 8:30:08 PM

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They were the best team I've ever played against--and, since my baseball days are long over, probably the best team I'll ever play against. The only difference was that we all assumed we were going to win; it took a while to realize that that was an asinine assumption.

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/3/2006 8:33:46 PM

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questions to the forum are--
(1) Do most people like battle of the sexes or not..

I do. Their is actually a boardgame called 'battle of the sexes' Its kinda fun when we have a decent number of people and I am around vanillas, its how to infultrate and corupt them slowly. {evil grin}

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(2) Have you ever watched or been a part of Battle of the sexes..

Yup. I don't look as it as a 'battle' per se, more like, who can piss off the other gender fastest.

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(3) Being a male sub and I can also think about female dommes that they like when girls win but do female subs too cheer for the girls..

I cheer for whoever I want, regardless of gender. It makes no sence, unless it a game of the minds, in which case women have more grey matter than men, so I will route of my own gender.

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(5) And finaly did any real life incident happened where doms or subs latent feelings came out in open..

The last game I played was with people from lifestyle, I was at a training thing on knifeplay and to break the ice and get people talking a bit we kinda did that. It got peopel talking and got feelings out as to why soem wanted to try knifeplay and why others didn't. I was the 'demo slave' and once I hit subspace I was 'out of the game' so to speak, but we had a few converts that night. Its amazing what a purrrring, subspaced slave can do to a room. lol

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/4/2006 6:45:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Slipstreme

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(2) Have you ever watched or been a part of Battle of the sexes.

Yes. When I was younger, I had to prove that the boys didn't have to worry about hurting me and that I was strong enough, so I could play with them. This has probably shaped the sadomasochist I am today..

Oh.. your being strong enough has an influence on your being into S/m

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(3) Being a male sub and I can also think about female dommes that they like when girls win but do female subs too cheer for the girls.
(4) Do male doms like these events and dont mind females competing against males

Does not apply to genderqueers like me.

I am just asking a fun question that whether such intergender competitive events create any kind of thrill and excitement among us or not .. for me they do and i just wanted to know are there others like me too..nothing to be queer of .. everyone is happy with his own queer kinks..and please my question on battle of the sexes is just a fun thing not about female supremacy or gender supremacy..

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(5) And finaly did any real life incident happened where doms or subs latent feelings came out in open..

Yes. My childhood was loaded with having to prove I was a worthy opponent. At the same time, I was trodden upon as being the outcast. So I fought the idea of submissiveness because I had been walked over all my earlier life and never liked hearing that it was "the way I should be".

Great..

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RE: Battle of the sexes - 6/4/2006 9:33:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

I cheer for whoever I want, regardless of gender. It makes no sence, unless it a game of the minds, in which case women have more grey matter than men, so I will route of my own gender.

mmm..more grey matter.. you think so..

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