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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 5:55:58 PM   
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It's even more vague than before.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 5:56:49 PM   
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Thanks for the Joke link.....

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 6:03:35 PM   
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Informative link, you mean. Knowledge is the best kind of power!

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 6:05:21 PM   
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Ummm, I think he means the one in my sig line.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 6:10:58 PM   
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O. oops.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 6:20:55 PM   
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LOL. On a roll tonight, eh?  


I guess I speak fun1coupleese. 

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 6:22:21 PM   
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Apparently so, it's the not so hidden narcissist in me ;)
*waves from the other end of Canada, btw*

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 7:46:56 PM   
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You want another woman to join you, but she needs to understand from the get go that she will never be as important to the relationship as your wife. Damn few people want to be unwanted.

You want her to work sometimes but quit working other times. You planning on paying her a salary for the times she isn't working? Health care, car insurance etc? Have you a job for her in your company because she won't in this economy be able to pick and choose, especially with a work history of leaving erratically.

How long did you date before you met your wife? Ten years? Fifteen? Since this time it isn't two people falling in love but three, expect it to take at least half again as long as it did the first time.

Most importantly, you're all about what's best for you. Think about what would be best for this other woman. I don't see anything there that would make this her best choice.

And there's nothing in your profile that gives a person any sense about you.

Your best bet is to join your local kink community and make friends who might become occasional playmates, and whom you might eventually decide you and your wife dearly love.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 8:32:44 PM   
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I looked at your profile and it pretty much says nothing about you. It gives me no sense of who you two really are, what you are looking for in your additional woman you want to add to your relationship, or what YOU have to offer HER. When I read your OP here, all it says is you are looking for is a live in 24/7 woman to work when and if needed and who knows there is a pecking order. It doesn't say whether you are looking for a second wife type of situation, a platonic relationship between her and you as a couple, or what.

I remember when I was submissive I considered being that "third" in a couple. I wanted to know where I would fit in compared to the other woman, would I be loved as her, what sort of relationship structure would there be, how would we all get to know each other, what would have been expected of me and what the couple could offer to me, and a gazillion other things too once those questions were answered.

You answer none of those questions in your profile or journal. There is really nothing there to pique the interest of a unicorn. And make no mistake, in looking to add another woman into your already established relationship, you ARE hunting for a unicorn....a rare and elusive creature that you can never prove does not exist but is very hard to find nonetheless.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/23/2011 9:52:23 PM   
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You Do have a good start. You aren't laying down hard and fast rules and you've covered some of the major issues. What you should be aware of is that CM is a meat market. It's GREAT to have a profile here, it helps with networking, but branching out to other websites can help as well. In particular OKCupid and Fetlife come to mind if you are looking for a serious relationship with BDSM elements.

Paying attention to your typing, spelling and grammar, IS important online because it's a representation of yourself. It makes you look messy, uncaring and ignorant when you might not be any of those things. (And I say this as I type on my crap keyboard which skips keys) First impressions like that matter when you meet people online. Your profile says willing to relocate and you have a picture on the back of a motorcycle, you may want to expand more on that.

Generally, and I'm sorry if this is offensive to anyone, men are the ones that do the messaging and the pursuing (with a few exceptions). If you're waiting to be contacted then you're SOL. There are not only kink groups that meet regularly in larger cities but Polyamorous groups as well. My own current partners were originally swingers when we decided to keep each other, which isn't unheard of. Being social, showing off both of your personalities, keeping your expectation clear and taking an interest in life and hobbies and other people are what makes us interesting, and it's hat normally attracts other people to us. Some things people are going to want to know, especially poly people, are whether or not you've ever had a poly relationship, or even a swinging one, that's another thing you can expand on.

There are also several poly questionnaires available online which can help you solidify some of your own ideas.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/24/2011 7:17:13 AM   
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Everything that has been explained to me will be taken into account and learned from. Thanks for all the input. I asked for it and recieved alot of information. Thanks.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/25/2011 1:04:21 PM   
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I don't have direct experience with poly relationships myself, but have been around people who do it and of course read about it. Poly relationships from everything I can tell are some of the most difficult because people have emotional needs that they can feel get trampled in those kinds of relationships. I have to agree with others, if I was interested in being in a poly relationship what I have seen of your profile and such would make it difficult to be interested. If you are looking to bring another woman into your primary relationship, someone with any sense of self is going to look and say "okay, what is in it for me?". A bisexual woman in such a relationship might, for example, look at having lovers of both genders, almost in a triangle relationship, or a sub one might want where the wife is her mistress and the hubby is either her master or her mistresses master......I realize that isn't what you are looking for, only using that as examples of what someone might be looking for.

If it is to be a V relationship (a good description) with hubby in the vertice, then how do the two women relate? Is the third person submissive to the wife, an 'equal' wife, or someone who will live in and will serve as hubbies 'second wife' when he wants that (I am talking sex) and otherwise is sort of a sister to the wife? Is the third there in a somewhat equal capacity or is she to be in some way submissive or perhaps a slave to the hubby? It sounds more like a controlled relationship from the profile, where she will work where and when you want her to, etc, but that makes it more difficult, because someone going into a live in relationship and giving up control is at the mercy of the couple. What if it doesn't work out, let's say primary wife gets jealous (which can happen), or otherwise the person isn't good, what happens to them? Do you tell them to pack their bags and it is nice knowing you? What about things like health insurance, if the woman doesn't work, what about that?

I think you are getting my drift, if you are searching for someone like you want you need to think all that out, and also if you are actually going to try and make this work a good part of it will be what the third woman wants as well as you and your wife. Even if you were looking for a slave, it doesn't work out where the owner/master/mistress sets all the rules, just not like that, plus even in those relationships things change, status changes, needs change and so forth. You can get great advice on here, but I recommend you and your wife try to iron out what you are looking for in this relationship, what is non negotiable (i.e for example if wife isn't involved sexually with the third woman, or won't be involved with hubby and second woman in a threesome, or hubby sleeps in wifes bed always...), and what is negotiable (for example, could third woman continue to work as part of the household, to maintain insurance coverage and have support if things bomb out...), and also maybe indicate to start, it won't be a live in arrangement for x period of time, but after that time then it becomes live in.....you get the idea, you can't just drift into something like this IMO without knowing what you are looking for, at least in the major pieces. Poly relationships are compicated from what I have seen but take a lot of work, it isn't simple.

One book I read on poly that was a good introduction was "Ethical Sluts" by Dorrie Easton, it is now pretty old, but it talked about the issues and such of any kind of alt relationship involving more then 2 people.

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RE: Finding whats best for US - 11/25/2011 1:36:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fornica

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I'm not seeing anything that sets you aside from the other 4000 couples looking for a unicorn. (aka..a third sub woman)


That is what I was thinking lol


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