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The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy - 11/25/2011 5:28:26 PM   
Lucylastic


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Status: offline 		Entire article credited to Naomi Wolfe, links embedded, I wanted the entire article  to make sense of all of it. and for further ease of pointing out supporting information.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy
US citizens of all political persuasions are still reeling from images of unparallelled police brutality in a coordinated crackdown against peaceful OWS protesters in cities across the nation this past week.
An elderly woman was pepper-sprayed in the face; the scene of unresisting, supine students at UC Davis being pepper-sprayed by phalanxes of riot police went viral online; images proliferated of young women – targeted seemingly for their gender – screaming, dragged by the hair by police in riot gear; and the pictures of a young man, stunned and bleeding profusely from the head, emerged in the record of the middle-of-the-night clearing of Zuccotti Park.

But just when Americans thought we had the picture – was this crazy police and mayoral overkill, on a municipal level, in many different cities? – the picture darkened. The National Union of Journalists and the Committee to Protect Journalists issued a Freedom of Information Act request to investigate possible federal involvement with law enforcement practices that appeared to target journalists. The New York Times reported that "New York cops have arrested, punched, whacked, shoved to the ground and tossed a barrier at reporters and photographers" covering protests. Reporters were asked by NYPD to raise their hands to prove they had credentials: when many dutifully did so, they were taken, upon threat of arrest, away from the story they were covering, and penned far from the site in which the news was unfolding. Other reporters wearing press passes were arrested and roughed up by cops, after being – falsely – informed by police that "It is illegal to take pictures on the sidewalk."


In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. The picture darkened still further when Wonkette and Washingtonsblog.com reported that the Mayor of Oakland acknowledged that the Department of Homeland Security had participated in an 18-city mayor conference call advising mayors on "how to suppress" Occupy protests.



To Europeans, the enormity of this breach may not be obvious at first. Our system of government prohibits the creation of a federalised police force, and forbids federal or militarised involvement in municipal peacekeeping.

I noticed that rightwing pundits and politicians on the TV shows on which I was appearing were all on-message against OWS. Journalist Chris Hayes reported on a leaked memo that revealed lobbyists vying for an $850,000 contract to smear Occupy. Message coordination of this kind is impossible without a full-court press at the top.

This was clearly not simply a case of a freaked-out mayors', city-by-city municipal overreaction against mess in the parks and cranky campers. As the puzzle pieces fit together, they began to show coordination against OWS at the highest national levels.Why this massive mobilisation against these not-yet-fully-articulated, unarmed, inchoate people?

After all, protesters against the war in Iraq, Tea Party rallies and others have all proceeded without this coordinated crackdown. Is it really the camping? As I write, two hundred young people, with sleeping bags, suitcases and even folding chairs, are still camping out all night and day outside of NBC on public sidewalks – under the benevolent eye of an NYPD cop – awaiting Saturday Night Live tickets, so surely the camping is not the issue.

I was still deeply puzzled as to why OWS, this hapless, hopeful band, would call out a violent federal response.That is, until I found out what it was that OWS actually wanted. The mainstream media was declaring continually "OWS has no message". Frustrated, I simply asked them. I began soliciting online "What is it you want?" answers from Occupy. In the first 15 minutes, I received 100 answers. These were truly eye-opening.The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics.

Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks.
This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks. No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors.

When I saw this list – and especially the last agenda item – the scales fell from my eyes. Of course, these unarmed people would be having the shit kicked out of them. For the terrible insight to take away from news that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated a violent crackdown is that the DHS does not freelance.

The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests.
And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).In other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS – to make war on peaceful citizens.

But wait: why on earth would Congress advise violent militarised reactions against its own peaceful constituents? The answer is straightforward: in recent years, members of Congress have started entering the system as members of the middle class (or upper middle class) – but they are leaving DC privy to vast personal wealth, as we see from the "scandal" of presidential contender Newt Gingrich's having been paid $1.8m for a few hours' "consulting" to special interests.

The inflated fees to lawmakers who turn lobbyists are common knowledge, but the notion that congressmen and women are legislating their own companies' profitsis less widely known – and if the books were to be opened, they would surely reveal corruption on a Wall Street spectrum. Indeed, we do already know that congresspeople are massively profiting from trading on non-public information they have on companies about which they are legislating – a form of insider trading that sent Martha Stewart to jail.

Since Occupy is heavily surveilled and infiltrated, it is likely that the DHS and police informers are aware, before Occupy itself is, what its emerging agenda is going to look like. If legislating away lobbyists' privileges to earn boundless fees once they are close to the legislative process, reforming the banks so they can't suck money out of fake derivatives products, and, most critically, opening the books on a system that allowed members of Congress to profit personally – and immensely – from their own legislation, are two beats away from the grasp of an electorally organised Occupy movement … well, you will call out the troops on stopping that advance.

So, when you connect the dots, properly understood, what happened this week is the first battle in a civil war; a civil war in which, for now, only one side is choosing violence. It is a battle in which members of Congress, with the collusion of the American president, sent violent, organised suppression against the people they are supposed to represent. Occupy has touched the third rail: personal congressional profits streams. Even though they are, as yet, unaware of what the implications of their movement are, those threatened by the stirrings of their dreams of reform are not. Sadly, Americans this week have come one step closer to being true brothers and sisters of the protesters in Tahrir Square. Like them, our own national leaders, who likely see their own personal wealth under threat from transparency and reform, are now making war upon us


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RE: The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy - 11/25/2011 5:50:18 PM   
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The ACTUAL truth of the FILTH that is the violent, shit-bag, LOSER SCUM of OWS:


  1. NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
  2. Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
  3. Phoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”
  4. NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
  5. NY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
  6. NY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police … More
  7. Cleveland: 10/18/2011 — ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
  8. NY: 10/10/2011 — ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
  9. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
  10. 10/12/2011 — Iran Supports ‘Occupy Wall Street’
  11. Portland: 10/16/2011 –#OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
  12. Portland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”
  13. Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
  14. 10/15/2011 — American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’
  15. Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
  16. Boston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
  17. New York: 10/11/2011 — “You Can Have Sex with Animals.”
  18. New York: 10/15/2011 — Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
  19. New York: 10/9/2011 — ‘Occupy Wallstreet’ Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
  20. New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape
  21. Baltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police
  22. Portland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft
  23. Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street
  24. 10/27/2011 — A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester
  25. 10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer
  26. Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in Rape
  27. New York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel
  28. New York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish Man
  29. Boston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block Street
  30. New York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer’s Gun
  31. New York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Get Arrested
  32. Oakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police
  33. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City
  34. Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs
  35. Portland, OR: 10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers
  36. NY: 10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons
  37. NY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange
  38. NY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops
  39. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter
  40. Oakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with Police
  41. Oakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank
  42. Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’
  43. Chicago: 10/14/2011 — Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’
  44. NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews
  45. NY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’
  46. NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters
  47. Oakland: 10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation
  48. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and Urination
  49. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism
  50. Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland
  51. Dallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
  52. Bloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed Him
  53. NY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
  54. Glasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-Raped
  55. Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in Tent
  56. Portland: 10/16/2011 — Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
  57. Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV Photographer
  58. Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp
  59. Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, ‘Riot Supplies’ Discovered by Police
  60. Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′s
  61. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall
  62. 10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks
  63. 10/26/2011 — OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against Cops
  64. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers
  65. Chicago: 10/25/2011 — Ayers Coaches #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School ‘Occupations’
  66. 10/26/2011/ — Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders Concerned
  67. Wash DC: 10/27/2011 — OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC Statue
  68. Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Squatters Riot With Police
  69. San Diego: 10/25/2011 — Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier’s Dog
  70. Oakland: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Throw Bottles at Police
  71. NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda
  72. 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946
  73. NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS
  74. 10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750
  75. Nashville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest
  76. NY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to Taunt Police into Violence
  77. NY: 1023/2011 — Islamist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street
  78. Los Angeles: 10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism
  79. NY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy
  80. Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested
  81. Oakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer?
  82. Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 — Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
  83. San Diego: 10/28/2011 — 40 Occupiers arrested
  84. Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks
  85. Boston: 10/25/2011 — Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began
  86. Portland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp
  87. Seattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With Assault
  88. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed Felon Arrested at Occupy Seattle
  89. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle
  90. Seattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests
  91. Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters
  92. Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two
  93. Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver
  94. Austin: 10/13/2011 — Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews
  95. Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage
  96. Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpsters
  97. Sacramento: 10/19/2011 — 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protest
  98. Sacramento: 10/13/2011 — Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested
  99. Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 — Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp
  100. Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night
  101. Austin, TX: 10/30/2011 — Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin Protesters
  102. NY: 10/30/2011 — Woman Assaulted in Her tent
  103. Orlando, FL: 10/28/2011 — Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown park
  104. Orlando, FL: 10/26/2011 — 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for trespass
  105. Orlando, FL: 10/22/2011 — Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on trespass charges
  106. Asheville, NC: 10/30/2011 — Occupiers Clash with Homeless in Asheville
  107. Nationwide: 10/27/2011 — Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus Far
  108. Fort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 — Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth Protest
  109. NY: 10/29/2011 — Three Incidents of Anti-Semitism
  110. San Francisco: 10/29/2011 — Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara Lovin
  111. Oklahoma City: 10/30/2011 — Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as Homicide
  112. Baltimore: 10/31/2011 — Woman Claims She was Raped at #OccupyBaltimore
  113. Boston: 10/31/2001 — Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy Movement
  114. Ottawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & Sexual Assaults Not Reported to Police
  115. Santa Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 — Occupiers Defy Police
  116. Santa Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested
  117. Denver, CO: 10/31/2011 — Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to Ground
  118. Dallas, TX: 10/24/2011 — 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank Demonstration
  119. Richmond, VA: 10/31/2011 — Arrests of Occupiers in Richmond
  120. Dallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child Sex assault at Occupy Dallas Camp
  121. NY: 11/1/2011 — Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier ‘Free Love’
  122. Iowa: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa Caucus
  123. NY: 11/1/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their Jobs
  124. San Diego: 10/29/2011 — Businesswoman Closes Shop After Threats By Occupiers
  125. Palm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
  126. Tampa, FL: 10/24/2011 — Six Occupiers Arrested
  127. Tampa, FL: 10/27/2011 — Two More Arrested In Connection to Occupy Tampa Movement
  128. Tampa, FL: 10/29/2011 — Occupy Tampa Protesters Arrested After Scuffle With Police
  129. Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Rallies Turn Violent
  130. Seattle, WA: 11/2/2011 — Cops, Protesters Clash
  131. Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Protests Degenerate Into Chaos
  132. Tulsa, OK: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Clash With Police
  133. Sacramento, CA: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Smash County Vehicle Windows
  134. Philadelphia: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
  135. Charlottesville, VA: 11/1/2011 — Underage Drinking at Occupy Charlottesville Site
  136. Portland: 11/2/2011 — Occupier Shoves Police Officer into Moving Bus
  137. Oakland: 11/2/2011 — Malkin’s Collection of Vandalism and Menacing Signs
  138. NYC: 11/3/2011 — Occupier Busted In Tent Grope, Suspected In Rape
  139. NYC: 11/4/2011 — 16 OWS Protesters Arrested at Goldman Sachs HQ
  140. Oakland, CA: 11-3-2011 — Occupy-Friendly Business Vandalized
  141. Asheville, NC: 11/3/2011 — 24 Occupiers Arrested
  142. Raleigh, NC: 10/28/2011 — Eight at Occupy Raleigh Arrested After Standoff
  143. NYC: 11/4/2011 — Deranged Homeless Man Goes on Violent Rampage In Zuccotti Park
  144. Dallas, TX: CPS Seizes Baby From ‘Occupy Dallas’ Site
  145. Wash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Uses Child as Human Shield — Video
  146. Wash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Try to Storm Americans for Prosperity Event — Video
  147. Omaha, NE: 11/3/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested
  148. Atlanta: 11/3/2011 — Protester Turns On Fellow Protester With Knife
  149. Los Angeles: 10/28/2011 — Drug Use and Property Damage
  150. Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — 3 Charged With Dealing Crack; Occupy Boston ‘Deteriorating’
  151. Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Storm Israeli Consulate; Anti-Israel Chants — Video
  152. Vancouver, CN: 11/5/2011 — Occupy Vancouver Death Dooms Protest Camp
  153. Fort Collins, CO: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Setting Fire to Condo Complex … $10M Damage
  154. Chula Vista, CA: 11/6/2011 — Underage Girl Missing From Occupy Protests
  155. Los Angeles, CA: 11/5/2011 – Two Assaults Raise Concerns About Crime at Occupy L.A.
  156. Dallas, TX: 11/5/2011 — Eight Arrests at Dallas Bank Protest
  157. Olympia, WA: 11/5/2011 – Two Occupy Protesters Arrested
  158. Seattle, WA: 11/3/2011 — Occupiers Cost City $426,000; Most of it Police Overtime
  159. Olympia, WA: 11/2/2011 — 3 Occupiers Arrested for Suspected of Robbing Local Wine Merchant
  160. Worcester, MA: 11/6/2011 — 25 Occupiers Arrested
  161. Milwaukee, WI: 11/2/2011 — Photojournalist, Two others Arrested at Protest … Video
  162. Milwaukee, WI: 10/20/2011 — Police Confront Occupier –Video … Arrested
  163. Wash. DC: 11/5/2011 — Rampaging Occupiers Attack 78 Year-Old Woman — Video
  164. Rochester, NY: 11/3/2011 — 161 Occupiers Arrested at Park
  165. NYC: 11/5/2011 — Police Clash With Occupiers, 20 Arrested at Courthouse Protest
  166. NYC: 11/5/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Vandalizing McDonald’s; Wanted Free Food
  167. Asheville, NC: 11/5/2011 — Four Occupiers Arrested
  168. Honolulu, HI: 11/6/2011 — Police Arrest Half-Dozen Occupiers
  169. Waikiki, HI: 11/7/2011 — Two Dozen Occupiers Arrested
  170. Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Arrested for Threatening Restaurant Employees
  171. Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Threatening Security Staff with Hammer
  172. Augusta, GA: 10/28/2011 — Occupier Arrested in Knife Threat
  173. Portland OR: 11/9/2011 — Police Suspect Occupiers in Molotov Cocktail Attack
  174. Sacramento, CA: 11/7/2011 — Homeless Clash With Occupy Protesters At Park
  175. New Orleans: 11/8/2011 — Man Dead for Two Days Found in Occupy Encampment
  176. San Diego: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Splatter Vendor Food Carts with Blood, Urine
  177. Los Angeles: 11/7/2011 — Occupiers Shut Down Burger King — Video
  178. Atlanta, GA: 11/6/2011 — Occupiers Arrested After Attacking Police
  179. St. Louis, MO: 11/9/2011 — Occupiers Hack Into Mayor’s Website
  180. Oakland, CA: 11/8/2011 — “Dangerous” Occupiers Hurting Small Business Owners
  181. Vancouver, CN: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Bite Two Police Officers
  182. Wash DC: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Use Children to Block Traffic — Video
  183. Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 — Occupiers Threaten Citizen-Journalist – Video
  184. Wash DC: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Use Racial Taunts Against Black Security Guard — Video
  185. Eureka, CA: 11/9/2011 — Occupier Defecates in Bank – Video
  186. Wash DC: 11/5/2011 – Occupiers Menace Children, Female Reporter – Video
  187. Portland, OR: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Menace News Crew – Video
  188. NYC: 11/8/2011 — Occupier: ‘I Wouldn’t Give a F**k if 9/11 Happened 911 More Times’
  189. NYC: 11/8/2011 — Small Business Owner Threatened, Terrorized By Occupiers
  190. San Francisco, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupier Threatens Park Ranger
  191. Burlington, VT: 11/10/2011 — Veteran Shoots Self at Encampment
  192. Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — ‘Occupy Oakland’ Goes After Cop
  193. NYC: 11/10/2011 — EMT Assaulted at Occupy Wall Street
  194. San Diego, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupier Attacks Woman with Camera
  195. Berekely, CA: 11/10/2011 — 39 Occupiers Arrested
  196. Westwood, CA: 11/9/2011 — 11 Occupiers Arrested for Blocking Traffic
  197. Fresno, CA: 11/9/2011 — 40 Occupiers Arrested
  198. Toledo, OH: 11/1/2011 — 2 Occupiers Arrested
  199. Houston, TX: 11/9/2011 — 10 Occupiers Arrested
  200. NYC: 11/8/2011 — Hobbyist Photographer Describes Assault in Zuccotti Park
  201. Oakland, CA: 11/10/2011: Fatal Shooting Over Drugs
  202. Oakland: CA: 11/10/2011 — Protesters Attack News Crew Covering Fatal Shooting
  203. Pasadena, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Announce Plans to Disrupt Rose Bowl Parade
  204. Tampa, FL 11/10/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested
  205. Portland, OR: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Billed for Police Car Vandalism
  206. Olympia, WA: 11/11/2011 — Occupiers Asked to Pack Up After Assault, Drug Arrests
  207. Denver, CO: 11/11/2011 — Occupiers Storm BlogCon 11 … One Arrest
  208. Salt Lake City, UT: 11/12/2011 — Protest Shut Down After Body Discovered In Tent
  209. San Francisco: 11/8/2011 — Shoplifting, Fights On The Rise Around Encampment
  210. San Francisco: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Accused of Ferry Building Thefts, Filth
  211. San Francisco: 11/10/2011 — Protester Busted For Gun Violation Arrested Again
  212. Mobile, AL: 11/9/2011 — 18 Occupy Protesters Arrested
  213. New Orleans: 11/11/2011 — Death at Campsite Attributed To Alcohol Abuse
  214. San Francisco: 11/12/2011 — Occupier Slashes Police Officer With Razor, Another Injured
  215. Portland: 11/13/2011 — Three Arrested with Mortars, Fireworks
  216. Chapel Hill, NC: 11/13/2011 — Eight Occupiers for Trespassing
  217. Norfolk, VA: Six Occupiers Arrested
  218. Philadelphia, PA: 11/13/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Rape
  219. Portland, OR: 10/27/2011 — Sexual Assault: ‘nobody should contact the police’ — Video
  220. NYC: 11/12/2011 — Occupiers Plan Mass Trespassing Campaign
  221. Oakland, CA: 11/8/2011 — Occupiers Plan Mass Trespassing Campaign
  222. Salt Lake City, UT: 11/12/2011 — 19 Occupiers Arrested
  223. St. Louis, MO: 11/13/2011 — 27 Occupiers Arrested
  224. St. Louis, MO: 11/12/2011 — Occupier Arrested
  225. NYC: 11/13/2011 — Occupier Slugs Police Officer
  226. Oakland, CA: 11/10/2011 — Occupiers Withdraw Resolution to Remain Peaceful
  227. Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 — Occupier Requires Life-Saving CPR After Drug Overdose
  228. Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 — 4 Reports of Substance Abuse
  229. Olympia, WA: 11/12/2011: Growing Number of Drug, Violence Complaints
  230. Atlanta, GA: 11/10/2011 — TB Breaks Out at Occupy Home Base
  231. NYC: 11/13/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Local Businesses $479,400
  232. Nationwide: 11/11/2011 — Occupy Death Toll Hits 7
  233. Seattle, WA: 11-14-2011 — Occupier Defecates on Public Sidewalk
  234. Hartford, CT: 10/16/2011 — Occupier Charged After Pulling Knife
  235. Dallas, TX: 11/14/2011 — 9-Month-Old Baby Removed From Camp Due to Health Concerns, Neglect
  236. Albuquerque, NM: 10/27/2011 — 2 Occupiers Arrested
  237. Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 — More Than a Dozen Occupiers Arrested
  238. Albuquerque, NM: 10/22/2011 — Knife Attack at Occupy Camp
  239. Albuquerque, NM: 10/27/2011 — Police Forced to Remove Occupiers From Park Again, 37 Arrested
  240. Albuquerque, NM: 10/8/2011 — Occupier Arrested
  241. University of New Mexico: 11/8/2011 — Sordid Story of Lawlessness, Dozens of Arrests, Spitting on Walmart Customer
  242. Albuquerque, NM: 10/16/2011 — Occupier Cited for Blocking Traffic
  243. Portland, OR: 11/14/2011 — 51 Occupiers Arrested
  244. Portland, OR: 11/14/2011 — Occupiers Smash Bank Windows
  245. Albany, NY: 11/15/2011 — 20 Occupiers Arrested
  246. Near Salem, OR: 11/13/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested With Explosives
  247. Wash DC: 11/11/2011 — Occupy’ Mom ‘Won’t Stop’ Putting Protest Above Her Kids’ Safety
  248. NYC: 11/15/2011: — Hundreds of Occupiers Arrested, Chaos, Resisting Arrest, Object Thrown at Police
  249. Houston, TX: 11/15/2011 — Occupier Arrested
  250. Minnesota: 11/15/2011 — Occupy Minnesota Costs Taxpayers $10,000+ Each Day
  251. Austin, TX: 11/15/2011 — Occupier Accused of Masturbating in Front of 16 Year-old Girl
  252. San Francisco, CA: 11/15/2011 — Deadly Dog Disease Spreads at Occupy Camp
  253. Philadelphia, PA: 11/15/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Assaulting Woman
  254. Philadelphia, PA: 11/15/2011 — Occupiers Vandalize Dilworth Plaza With Graffiti and Feces – Video
  255. Santa Cruz, CA: 11/15/2011 — Ringworm, Scabies Outbreak at Occupy Camp
  256. Oakland, CA: 11/14/2011 — Occupiers Cost Taxpayers $2.4 Million
  257. Wash DC: 11/16/2011 — Suspected White House Shooter Spent Time with OccupyDC.
  258. Pittsburgh, PA: 11/15/2011 — Five Occupiers Arrested for Disorderly Conduct, Blocking Traffic
  259. San Francisco, CA: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Storm Bank, 95 Arrested
  260. Chicago, IL: 11/16/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Child Porn
  261. NYC: 11/16/2011 — Dozens Of Hypodermic Needles Found In Zuccotti Park
  262. NYC: 11/16/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Making Terror Threats — Video … More.
  263. Dallas, TX: 11/17/2011 — 18 Occupiers Arrested
  264. Charlotte, NC: 11/14/2011 — Two Occupiers Arrested
  265. Charlotte, NC: 11/15/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested
  266. Ottawa, CN: 10/29/2011 — Feces, Urine, and Blood Covered Blanket Hung Over Tent
  267. Los Angeles, CA: 11/15/2011 — Occupier Charged With Masturbating In Front of Children
  268. Los Angeles, CA: 11/15/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Attempting to Light Food Vendor On Fire
  269. NYC: 11/15/2011 — City Claims Occupy Wall Street Protesters Were Stockpiling Weapons
  270. Wash DC: 11/15/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Three Injuries
  271. NYC: 11/16/2011 — 150 Trashmen Needed to Clean Occupy Park Filth
  272. Los Angeles: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Block Freeways, 26 Arrested
  273. NYC: 11/17/2011 – Mob of Occupiers Taunt, Bully Small School Children
  274. San Francisco, CA: 11/17/2011 — Lice, Fleas, Disease Spread in Camp
  275. NYC: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Create Citywide Mayhem, 275 Arrested
  276. West Jordan, UT: 11/17/2011 — Occupier Hurls Molotov Cocktail at Bank
  277. NYC: 11/17/2011 — Police Officer Slashed, Others Attacked
  278. NYC: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Throw Vinegar In Eyes of Police Officers
  279. Lincoln, NE: 11/5/2011 — 4 Occupiers Arrested at Bank Protest
  280. San Diego, CA: 1/17/2011 — Occupiers Hold Moment of Silence In ‘Solidarity’ With Accused Obama Would-Be Assassin — Video
  281. Melbourne, AU: 11/18/2011 — Children as Young as 12 Given Drugs, Alcohol
  282. Los Angeles, CA: 11/17/2011 — Dozens of Occupiers Arrested at Bank Protest
  283. Denver, CO: 11/16/2011 — Residents Complain Police Response Slowed Due to Occupiers
  284. Denver, CO: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic
  285. Denver, CO: 11/18/2011 — Occupiers Charged With Inciting a Riot, Assaulting Police Officer
  286. Columbus, OH: 11/15/2011 — 7 Occupiers Arrested for Refusing to Leave Bank
  287. St. Louis, MO: 11/18/2011 — Woman Sexually Assaulted
  288. Portland, OR: 11/18/2011 — Occupier Punches Police Horse – Video
  289. Missoula, MT: 10/26/2011 — Occupier Charged With Getting 11-Year-Old Drunk
  290. Portland, OR: 11/17/2011 — Occupier Brags About Urinating In Public — Video
  291. Chicago, IL: 11/17/2011 — 58% Believe Violence Against Government Sometimes Necessary
  292. Portland, OR: 11/18/2011 — Ocupier Uses Infant as Human Shield — Video
  293. NYC: 11/18/2011 — Mob Calls For Revolutio,n Screams “F*ck cops! F*ck police!” — Video
  294. Portland, ME: 11/19/2011 — Two Occupiers Arrested for Brutal Assaults
  295. Orlando, FL: 11/14/2011 — Two Occupiers Fight, One Injured By Knife
  296. Pensacola, FL: 11/18/2011 — Occupier Charged With Burglary, Brought Furniture to Occupy Camp
  297. NYC: 11/19/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Blocking Traffic Also Wanted in Indiana
  298. Philadelphia, PA: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Arrested During Protest
  299. Seattle, WA: 11/17/2011 — Hundreds of Occupiers Snarl Traffic Around Medical Center
  300. Columbia, SC: 11/16/2011 — At Least 15 Occupiers Arrested
  301. Mobile, AL: 11/17/2011 — Occupier Arrested in Government Building
  302. Dallas, TX: 11/2011 — Media List of Occupy Arrests, Infractions
  303. Santa Cruz, CA: 11/19/2011 — County Officials Release List of 93 Acts of Lawlessness In and Around Occupy Camp
  304. Santa Cruz, CA: 11/19/2011: Occupiers Suspected of Dumping 200 Pounds of Human Feces Near Veterans Building
  305. Berkeley, CA: 11/18/2011 — Woman Assaulted for Refusing to Join Occupy
  306. Des Moines, IA: 11/20/2011 — Occupy Leader Arrested on Drug Charges
  307. NYC: 11/20/2011 — Occupier Arrested With Handgun, Ammo
  308. Eugene, OR: 11/19/2011 — Heroin Overdose at Occupy Camp
  309. Seattle, WA: 11/19/2011 — 70 Occupiers Trespass on Foreclosed Home
  310. Portland, ME: 11/19/2011 — Three Occupiers Charged, Including a Hammer Attack
  311. NYC: 11/18/2011 — ‘Runaway Mom’ Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
  312. Hartford, CT: 11/17/2011 — Occupiers Arrested for Blocking Traffic
  313. Austin, TX: 11/18/2011 — Five Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing
  314. Minneapolis, MN: 11/20/2011 — Occupiers Arrested for Burglary, Blocking Police Car — Video
  315. Oakland, CA; 11/20/2011 — Occupiers Defy Legal Eviction, Return to Camp
  316. Wash DC: 11/19/2011 — 11 Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing
  317. San Francisco, CA: 11/18/2011 — Camp Declared Public Health Nuisance; Eviction Deadline Passes
  318. Oakland, CA: 11/19/2011 — Occupiers Plan to Shut Down all Ports on West Coast
  319. NYC: 11/19/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Forcibly Touching Woman
  320. NYC: 11/21/2011 — Occupiers Pledge to Stick It to Taxpayers
  321. Houston, TX: 11/22/2011 — 15 Rounds fired Into Occupy Camp, Gunmen Shot & Arrested
  322. London: 11/21/2011 — Occupiers Defecate in St. Paul’s Cathedral
  323. Oakland, CA: 11/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Hosts Gay Porn Movie Shoot
  324. Oakland, CA: 11/22/2011 — Domestic Terror Group, Weather Underground, Joins #Occupy
  325. Columbia, SC: 11/21/2011 — Occupiers Defy Curfew
  326. NYC: 11/21/2011 — Three Occupiers Arrested After Rowdy Demonstration Outside Mayor’s Home
  327. Phoenix, AZ:; 11/21/2011 — Eight Occupiers Arrested
  328. Albany, NY: 11/20/2011 — 48 Occupiers Arrested
  329. Pensacola, FL: 11/21/2011 — City Hall Vandalized After Occupy Protest
  330. Fort Meyers, FL: 11/20/2011 — Occupier Arrested On Bomb Threat Charges — Video
  331. Milwaukee, WI: 10/20/2011 — Occupier Arrested at Bank Protest — Video
  332. Nationwide: 11/23/2011 — Occupiers Cost Taxpayers $13 million, So Far
  333. Toronto, CN: 11/23/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested


http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far/




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This was clearly not simply a case of a freaked-out mayors', city-by-city municipal overreaction against mess in the parks and cranky campers. As the puzzle pieces fit together, they began to show coordination against OWS at the highest national levels?

...

I was still deeply puzzled as to why OWS, this hapless, hopeful band, would call out a violent federal response.

...

... For the terrible insight to take away from news that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated a violent crackdown is that the DHS does not freelance.

The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests.

And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).In other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS – to make war on peaceful citizens.

But wait: why on earth would Congress advise violent militarised reactions against its own peaceful constituents?

She got the chain-of-command wrong.

Peter King and Congress are not in the chain-of-command of the DHS.  It goes from President Obama to the head of the department directly.

Regardless of what else she may have said in the article, this is clearly an attempt to place Congress and King in the loop, and as the direct cause, which is simply not true, false and easily verified.

Which places anything else she has to say open to question.

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The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests.
And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).I
n other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS – to make war on peaceful citizens.


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Ermmmmmmm I think you are missing out the bolded parts .....I cant believe you missed that.....
The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests.
And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).I
n other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS – to make war on peaceful citizens.

I didn't miss anything.

DHS is not answerable to King.  DHS is answerable directly and only to the President of the United States of America i.e President Obama.

Congress has indirect oversight of all federal agencies, and fund them.  They do not control them directly.  Policy and any direct actions are set solely by the Executive Branch.

Sticking the false information that King has some sort of operational control is a red herring, simply to make Congress responsible. In fact, to make the Republican House (King is a Republican Representative) responsible.

She doesn't mention Obama by name, either, but mentions King by name twice.

This appears to me, as an attempt to redirect anger away from the Democrats, and the Democratic President who must have at least been advised of any such action from DHS, onto the Republican Congress, who he is "running against".

If you read the pdf file you quoted directly above about the "$850,000" proposal, you'll see that if the Republicans are blamed, then all the anger from such a claim of Republican involvement would rebound to the benefit of President Obama and the Democrats.

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Congress has indirect oversight of all federal agencies, and fund them.  They do not control them directly.  Policy and any direct actions are set solely by the Executive Branch.



Watch out, as Congress has tha authority to overrule any agency decision or regulation. Remember, it is Congress that gave agencies their authority to begin with; all agencies derive the authority of their actions from acts of Congress.

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Congress has indirect oversight of all federal agencies, and fund them.  They do not control them directly.  Policy and any direct actions are set solely by the Executive Branch.


Watch out, as Congress has tha authority to overrule any agency decision or regulation. Remember, it is Congress that gave agencies their authority to begin with; all agencies derive the authority of their actions from acts of Congress.

Certainly. 

Does this change the truth of anything I said?

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Congress has indirect oversight of all federal agencies, and fund them.  They do not control them directly.  Policy and any direct actions are set solely by the Executive Branch.


Watch out, as Congress has tha authority to overrule any agency decision or regulation. Remember, it is Congress that gave agencies their authority to begin with; all agencies derive the authority of their actions from acts of Congress.

Certainly. 

Does this change the truth of anything I said?

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I just wanted to make sure that people who might read your post didn't get the mistaken impression that Congress had no way to directly control what an agency does. Admin law is complicated enough.

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DHS is not answerable to King.  DHS is answerable directly and only to the President of the United States of America i.e President Obama.


DHS is not answerable to the head of United States House Committee on Homeland Security?

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The DHS is a Standing Committee...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_committee_(United_States_Congress)

The committee conducts oversight and handles legislation (and resolutions) related to the security of the United States. The committee may amend, approve, or table homeland security related bills. It also has the power to hold hearings, conduct investigations, and subpoena witnesses. Additionally, the committee has authorization and policy oversight responsibilities over the Department of Homeland Security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Homeland_Security

Simplistic explanations, true. Apparently I am missing something. Someone wanna clue me in?

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RE: The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy - 11/25/2011 8:19:21 PM   
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It saddens me to report that the authorities' reaction to the Occupy movement here mirrors that experienced in the US. In both Sydney and Melbourne, smallish numbers of Occupiers were overwhelmed by organised police assaults conducted in the small hours of the morning. It's a tribute to the latent power of the Occupy movement's message that the authorities internationally feel obliged to resort to force to suppress a non-violent message of change.

My belief is that this antagonism is triggered by the OWS's clear denunciation of neo-liberal economics and its horrendous consequences. Expect more of the same - OWS is the first direct challenge to the supremacy of this hideous ideology and its rapacious practicioners. The 1% who have prospered under the neo-liberal economic regime cannot be expected to meekly surrender their gains back to the 99% who generated them.

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RE: The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy - 11/25/2011 9:48:33 PM   
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Honestly, an answer would be nice.

The DHS is a Standing Committee...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_committee_(United_States_Congress)

The committee conducts oversight and handles legislation (and resolutions) related to the security of the United States. The committee may amend, approve, or table homeland security related bills. It also has the power to hold hearings, conduct investigations, and subpoena witnesses. Additionally, the committee has authorization and policy oversight responsibilities over the Department of Homeland Security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Homeland_Security

Simplistic explanations, true. Apparently I am missing something. Someone wanna clue me in?

"Oversight" is not direct chain of command control.

The words above are clear:

The committee may amend, approve, or table homeland security related bills. It also has the power to hold hearings, conduct investigations, and subpoena witnesses. Additionally, the committee has authorization and policy oversight responsibilities over the Department of Homeland Security.

The committee does not have the power to directly order the DHS to do anything.  They have to pass a law, which is then approved by the Senate and then signed into law by the President.

The committee has "oversight", but that does not translate in the legal authority to pick up a phone, and tell the head of HS to do anything.  If the committee attempted to do so, it would be in conflict and counter with the Department's chain-of-command, not part of the chain-of-command.

Congress (House and Senate) pass a law authorizing a Department or Cabinet, and gives it its general mission.  Within those general guidelines, the Executive branch determines the specific methods and regulations needed to accomplish that mission.  Federal regulations are decided upon by the Department, in consultation with the Office of the President, and sent to Congress to be printed in the Federal Register.  This gives the public, and Congress the opportunity to weigh-in on them. 

Most policy questions, and all day-to-day activities of a Department are handled without any resort to Congress.  Sometimes, the Federal agency does things that Congress doesn't like, and then their heads may have to appear before Congress to explain, but, other than through a signed bill, or a reduction of funding, the Executive Branch sets the policies as they see fit within the original guidelines of the law, in order to meet the President's overall policy goals - not Congresses'.

Oh, and I say "Congress", not "The House".  The Senate has almost exactly the same thing.  See the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs.  Oh, but guess what?  The Chairman of that Committee isn't a Republican.

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