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Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 2:00:51 PM

Alec49

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What is your opinion on a Master requiring a slave to work outside the Household ?
I am finding that a lot of slaves want 24/7 live in but want to be kept.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 2:07:56 PM

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I thinking working is good for anyone.
Most of the s-chicks I know are interested in working. But I do know several male Masters who want their s-people at home. It all depends on what works for each relationship...

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 2:09:45 PM

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I would never go for a man, Master or non that wouldn't let me work outside the household. If the man had a paycheck to the point where my paycheck was just silly, I would probably just switch to volunteering.
I actually tried the Master supporting me thing for a year, when a lack of visa kept me from being allowed to hold a job in Australia. It was incredibly boring. No amount of D/s could hide just how damn boring it was. There was no motivation to do anything, and I got fat and lazy. And something about buying Christmas presents for someone with their own money irks me.

Then again, that is me personally. I see nothing wrong with the women who want to be in the house 24/7, it's kind of housewifey, and nothing wrong with that.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 2:30:55 PM

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While I can see both sides of this, I would not respect a Master who refused to let his slave work in a job UNLESS he made plans for her financial security should something happen to him.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 2:35:12 PM

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Wanting a 24/7 live in slave is vastly different than having created a life that can support one.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 2:46:45 PM

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Wanting a 24/7 live in slave is vastly different than having created a life that can support one.

I imagine there are far more "slaves" who want to live in 24/7 then "Masters" who are capable of supporting it.
While I do not think this is so in EVERY case or even most cases, I know of a few subby girls who think by branching into BDSM where there is a very good ratio in their favor, they can find a guy to live off of, and never have to work again.

In my mind such women are pets. They wait by the door for their master to come home. They are given room and board, entertain their owners, and occupy themselves while their masters are at work. Their masters provide for them in every way, and they never have to worry where things are coming from.
I see nothing wrong with that, as plenty of Doms/men like that image in their heads, and get something they find equally fulfilling out of the relationship.. That or a kind of 1950's housewife, cooking and cleaning while the man is at work.

I myself suck at cleaning, would rather work for several hours then clean for one, so I doubt I could ever do that myself unless I had a baby pop out to keep me entertained.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:27:19 PM

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If he wanted me to stay home and not work I'd be thrilled personally. I liked being a stay at home mom when I was married. I like being able to take care of the house, to cook and clean, run errands, help out in any way I can. I found our homelife and our relationship ran much smoother when I stayed at home.

When I had to work so that we could stay afloat it brought tension into our marriage..having to arrange for daycare, who was going to pick her up or drop her off, having to come home and still cook, clean, run errands, etc...both of us being too tired to even pay attention to each other, being so tired that even the smallest thing would set us both off and we'd be snipping at each other.

I'm also a traditionalist in my beliefs.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:30:30 PM

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If I go out every day and work while she stays at home chilling, who is really a slave to whom?

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:34:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: Epytropos

If I go out every day and work while she stays at home chilling, who is really a slave to whom?

That's why I call them pets

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:45:35 PM

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chilling? I dunno about other women but when I was a wife I didn't do too much chillin..there was a baby to raise, dishes to wash, laundry to be done, errands to be run, breakfast, lunch and dinner to be cooked, a house to be cleaned and then making sure everyone had everything they needed for their day to run smoothly.

It was nice to be able to have me stay home to make sure life ran smoothly for everyone so that when he came home from work he didn't have to worry about anything and he was able to simply relax instead of having to make his own dinner, run his own shower, look for anything he needed, etc...I was the family organizer and planner.

Chillin? Life was anything but lol.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:46:26 PM

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Work.

A hard limit.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:52:11 PM

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But that is what so many young, childless people believe. That staying home is the equivalent of eating bonbons and watching soaps all day.

There are little fairies that come in and cook, clean, do laundry, run errands and take care of the children. You were so busy doing it all yourself, they just never bothered to come by!

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:54:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

chilling? I dunno about other women but when I was a wife I didn't do too much chillin..there was a baby to raise, dishes to wash, laundry to be done, errands to be run, breakfast, lunch and dinner to be cooked, a house to be cleaned and then making sure everyone had everything they needed for their day to run smoothly.

It was nice to be able to have me stay home to make sure life ran smoothly for everyone so that when he came home from work he didn't have to worry about anything and he was able to simply relax instead of having to make his own dinner, run his own shower, look for anything he needed, etc...I was the family organizer and planner.

Chillin? Life was anything but lol.

I don't like kids, I don't like clean, and I do like to cook, so my ideal is not really in line with what yours lol. I didn't mean to imply that there weren't stay-at-home wives/partners who were hard-working, just that in my ideal world there wouldn't be much need.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:54:44 PM

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quote:

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But that is what so many young, childless people believe. That staying home is the equivalent of eating bonbons and watching soaps all day.

There are little fairies that come in and cook, clean, do laundry, run errands and take care of the children. You were so busy doing it all yourself, they just never bothered to come by!

I have every respect for housewives!
My posts about pets refer more to the "chain me up 24/7" types who expect that they will just be a sex slave and not have to worry about cooking/cleaning.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:55:03 PM

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People should do whatever works for them in their relationship. That being said, unless he could provide me with health insurance, income and retirement funds, I will keep working, I enjoy being independent and it would be difficult for me to transition to a life where I had to be dependent on another, I think it would be a bad fit for someone like me.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:55:08 PM

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For most people in the USA nowadays, two incomes are needed to live comfortably. From your profile, it sounds like you want someone who is going to live in your house and do all the chores and pay all her own bills, while you go to work, come home and throw your dirty clothes on the floor. THAT is not terribly appealing.

Even in a D/s or M/s relationship, when both parties work, the reality that some chore sharing needs to take place is reality. Otherwise, that sub/slave is so busy cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, yardwork, car maintenance and everything else, there is no time for fun for anyone.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:55:19 PM

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I love my job but I'd have no problem giving it up and being 24/7 at home for him. Chillin? Hardly. A few years ago I was out of work for a year and I hardly chilled. I got more done that year than I ever had while working. I'm not one of those folks who gets bored staying home. There is SO much that can be done.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:55:42 PM

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heh..I think my daughter thought that when she moved out on her own. One day I finally went to see her new place..it looked like a hurricane ran through it...basically the same way her bedroom looked when she lived at home lol.

Now she's on her second townhome and now she cooks, cleans, does laundry, makes sure everything is clean and ready for her and her boyfriend. She's always busy keeping the house running...plus she works and goes to college.

I call her "the mom of the house" with her and her boyfriend. lol

It's cute to see how her perceptions have changed over the years. Even she has commented on she didn't realize how much I did until now.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 3:59:25 PM

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Huh. Rereading it I think we might be going the opposite of where the OP meant this thread to go.

If a man requires me to have my own job, and carry my own weight, that's fine- I would anyways.

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RE: Slaves that work - 11/27/2011 4:02:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alec49

What is your opinion on a Master requiring a slave to work outside the Household ?
I am finding that a lot of slaves want 24/7 live in but want to be kept.

A slave wanting to be kept might be someone who wants a free ride. Kind of like calling themselves a slave will get them a cushy life. If it works for the Master too then it's a win win situation.

If a Master wants to require a slave to work outside the house, then he and the slaves who wish to have that in their lives can sign on together. I find it's better for the slave, and more realistic for both of them if things are done this way, which is my opinion only.

Couple of things here that I can add about not working since I stayed home for many years to raise my kids. Being out of the work force for a period of time lends itself to negative issues. You have employment gaps, outdated knowledge, miss out on earning seniority, don't get money put into 401k's, miss out on benefits, don't gain new knowledge in any adjoining fields, miss out on opportunities for advancement, lack all those cool things to put on a resume like attending conferences or seminars or being asked to take on more responsibilities in your current job, don't get any awards or recognition formal or informal for exemplary performance which could lead to higher income and esteem from others, you lack a current income level for a new employer to beat ( as in, I'd love to work here, can you beat what i'm making now which is xyz?), miss out on building a professional reputation based on longevity in the field and accomplishments therein, miss out on the corresponding self esteem that comes with performing well at a job, don't interact with others and keep social skills sharp and expand upon them, etc etc etc. You have no way to prove you can do the most basic of things like show up on time and be dressed appropriately if you don't have anything like a current job position that shows that you know these things.

If someone isn't working they miss out on a whole lot more than just missed wages. One reason why women still trail men in wages and job position is because they are usually the ones taking off some time to have and raise children. A slave position to me is not as solid as a marriage. A guy would have to offer me a hell of a lot for me to stay out of the work force to tend to him, as my future with him might not be happily ever after, and I'd come out of that relationship having given up a lot as I demonstrated in this post. He gets to say goodbye, I'd be feeling the effects of having given up the numerous things I already mentioned for the rest of my life.

Personally I'd go nuts being at home tending to Master, it wouldn't suit me and I'd not enter that type of a situation. I need to be productive outside the home and earn my own contribution to the household.

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