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Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: grocery list for 10-6-2011 (12/6/2011 11:42:37 PM)

We were shopping at winco, and they're usually the cheapest around, all though sometimes safeway or raleys will undersell winco, but not usually. and we need enough meat to feed 4 people, I am sure the one roast was to big, it looked huge, the other one looked like by the time it shrank it would just about feed four.


The carb balance tortilla's have 6 carbs essentially by the time they calculate the fiber in there. I think that's worth it for a big old giant tortilla. Burrito size. I also use them to replace bread too. If you don't stuff the burrito shell to full you can fold your sandwich fixing up like a burrito. IT allows you to eat more too of a healthy sandwich item like tuna, because you don't need bread and 6 and 6 is 12, that's way better than two sandwiches cause with two sandwiches, you're using 4 pieces of bread usually, I never liked the method of cutting one piece of bread in half and using it for your sandwich.


Or at least that's my logic, which may not be logical at all. I'd be willing to try it another way if someone could show me a product that has big size, and small carb count.

Packaged cheese is cheaper, they want 2 bucks for two packs of cheese, 1 pack was like 1.49 and 1 small block of cheese is 6 bucks and a big block is almost 9 I think.


I think if I got more help in the kitchen, or more tlc afterwards when I am in pain, I'd enjoy it more.

I was getting a lot of information from googling diabetic recipe's and they were all way to high in salt or fat or calories , but I'll still look around and I can always ask someone here to tweak them a bit for me.


Yes, Daddy needs to loose weight, since he's more physically active than me because he has a sometimes physically demanding job and does martial arts and goes to the gym 3 or 4 nights a week and is overall healthy with no physical injuries he can haul ass better than I can, so to speak and he can afford to slack a bit cause he can just work harder to work it off, but since we eat together when I cook, he'll be eating the same healthy stuff though sometimes he turns his nose up at an item simply cause it's healthy.

I was given this one nice recipe for cauliflower and low fat cream cheese by the personal trainer I was working with and you put it in the food processor till it was smooth and creamy and you toasted double fiber toast and put a hamburger mix that was 90 percent lean into it and mix it up and Daddy said it looked like something a dog puked up so he didn't wanna eat it lol. He did finally agree to eat it but he said in the future next time don't tell him what's in the healthy food I am fixing, because if it's something like tofu he'll refuse to eat it no matter how tasty I swear the food is .


I'm mostly not a sweets person, I do love them but I find it's easier to stay away from them or it sets off an awful bad sweet tooth craving and it's mucyh harder to be responcible about sweets, or much harder not to think about them. I am just happy staying away lol..


I'm thinking more like a healthy yogurt, low carb low sugar, and a protein, like a string cheese stick, or an egg or maybe some homemade refried beans and a few whole wheat crackers, you can also make home made Guacamoly and home made chips Hungrygirl.com lists a lot of healthy snack options and stuff.or something. Stuff like that.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady





Ok, first you are shopping in the wrong places, or you are looking at roasts that are much larger than what you need.




Carb Balance tortillas are NOT worth the price.  Look at the wheat tortillas and compare the carb counts as well as the size of the tortillas.  If they aren't the same size, you need to adjust that carb count to match the size of the regular tortillas.  Nine out of ten times, those "low carb" things are smaller and that accounts for the largest portion of the lowered carbs.  Plus you are spending more money on them.



Pre shredded cheese?  Again, get yourself a grater and shred it yourself.  It's cheaper and a better quality of cheese, regardless of what type of cheese it is.


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All these items are part of the meals I have planned for the next week. I'm planning on cooking one home cooked meal every 2-3 days. So like a home cooked on M a home cooked on W a home cooked on F and wash rice and repeat for the next week



TFB, you are off to a really good start.  You may never develop a love for cooking or become Julia Child, but you can learn to make simple, healthy and inexpensive meals if you put your mind to it.

Google search recipes for diabetics and find items there that you like, and build your meals from there.  Using those recipes, you already know they are designed to be low sugar, low carb and low fat.  Most of the recipes will even give you all the nutritional information.

Look on line and search for "items for a stocked kitchen."  Screw it.  Here a couple of sites to help you along.

http://www.delish.com/food/family-meals/how-to-stock-your-kitchen

http://judith-zwolak.suite101.com/frugal-pantry-items-a57913

That first one lists oils, spices and stuff, and you can do that over time, buying a couple things as you go.  The second is mostly inexpensive food items to keep on hand.

Also, I know your partner wants what he wants, but he needs to be supportive of what you are trying to do.  Also, for what it is worth, if I remember right from a picture on your profile or somewhere, he needs to diet the same as you do.

Yes there are other healthy snacks besides apples and nuts.  Here is something to get you started:

http://www.self.com/fooddiet/2009/06/30-healthy-snacks

Even if you wanted something sweet, like brownies, you can get a box mix for less than 2 dollars and make a whole pan of brownies.

Just cooking for yourself rather than the Healthy Choice meals are going to be better for your diet.  Just like if someone cuts soda out of their diet when they drink a lot of it will lose weight with that one little change, that is what you are doing, making one little change at a time.

There are obviously plenty of people here who want to help and are happy to answer your questions to guide you on your way.  Remember to check your local sales papers and buy the meat that is on sale.  Search for recipes that work with those meats.  Try to stick to your list and always try to buy the stuff that is on sale.  I don't know what types of grocery store chains are in your area, but find the least expensive or the one with the most sales.

And NEVER use garlic salt.  It's more salt than garlic.  Buy garlic powder, minced garlic in a jar or fresh garlic.

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Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: grocery list for 10-6-2011 (12/6/2011 11:44:39 PM)

I will add it to my list of sites to refer to often and early!


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ORIGINAL: DameBruschetta


You might like foodonthetable.com - they are a website which links store sales and recipes to help you create meal plans and shopping lists.  You can set a list of what you like to buy and they will tell you where it is cheapest at the time you want to buy in the stores you select, and then they can help you decide what to make with it and then build a shopping list for what you'd need to make it.  You can plan out a whole week that way, its a neat website. 





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how do I make a good spagettie sauce with no sugar or lil sugar in it. (12/6/2011 11:53:38 PM)

Well it called for 1/2 pound and the other recipe called for a 1/2 pound, and 3 pounds was close enough for tunnel work as my dad used t o say lol.


Yes, ! that is what my dad says, always section out your meat before you freeze it. But that's because it makes sense and works out well.so if you had 24 thighs and you only need4 at a time, put 4 in a bag, and put 4more in another bag and do that till all your food is broken up into separate bags of numbers of meat you need, then freeze that. Saves you from having to try to break up frozen food or defrost 24 thighs and then pull out 8 and try to either figure out what to do with the rest, or refreeze.



Yes, I feel when one is a close knit family you share meals together, and I know my mom and sometimes too my dad spent plenty of time cooking for us when we were little, it'd be a shame not to do the same now I am capable of cooking. I also wanted to cook for my maybe one day MIL, I told her I wouldn't mind bagging up some extra and JAmes could bring it to you on his way to work and she said thank you but you don't need to.So basically she's not really interested in me doing that.


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ORIGINAL: calamitysandra

You are of to a good start. Yes, you will be able to do better with time and experience, but you made a beginning, and that is an hugely important step.
I also think it is good and right of you to cook for your parents, too. That is very thoughtful.

I am pretty sure that you got to much ground beef, but hey, no problem. Simply freeze the leftovers for next week. That is not a bad plan anyway. Cook in double batches. But I would divide the meal prior to serving and already put away the half destined for freezing, this way nobody is tempted to overindulge.





DameBruschetta -> RE: grocery list for 10-6-2011 (12/7/2011 9:43:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

We were shopping at winco, and they're usually the cheapest around, all though sometimes safeway or raleys will undersell winco, but not usually. and we need enough meat to feed 4 people, I am sure the one roast was to big, it looked huge, the other one looked like by the time it shrank it would just about feed four.


I'd believe that when it comes to standard pricing, but its easier to stick to healthy eating can shop sales and make your budget stretch further.   A lot of the time those little pennies add up so when you can, sometimes its worth taking a look before you shop.  (This is how we got into that whole freezer argument a bit ago sadly, because it just makes it easier to stock up when things are on special and save in the long run.  )




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: grocery list for 10-6-2011 (12/7/2011 5:22:42 PM)

Yes, it does. and next time I'll try to plan meals that group around brown rice, or pasta, or lentils and beans and veggies more than meat, cause those are cheap items and your buck goes farther cause you can get a big bag of dried beans, hell we already have some and take 2 cups out and still have about 5 cups left in the bag to cook another time. And frozen vegies are not that expensive, most brands come in at a little under a dollar, and it's not hard to stock up on those, and when the seasonal garden comes in, then we won't need to buy some things, the garden produces it in more quantities than one could ever hope for otherwise.
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ORIGINAL: DameBruschetta


I'd believe that when it comes to standard pricing, but its easier to stick to healthy eating can shop sales and make your budget stretch further.   A lot of the time those little pennies add up so when you can, sometimes its worth taking a look before you shop.  (This is how we got into that whole freezer argument a bit ago sadly, because it just makes it easier to stock up when things are on special and save in the long run.  )




LafayetteLady -> RE: grocery list for 10-6-2011 (12/8/2011 2:24:11 AM)

Well, I know I never want to live in California, lol.  I can buy a block of cheddar cheese, a little less than a pound on sale for 1.88.

See, here's the thing with your logic around the tortillas.  You shouldn't be making two tuna roll ups.  Make one and have some fresh veggies.  Cucumbers are really good on a tuna sandwich.

If you are going to be shopping for food for your whole family, your food budget can't afford it, and your parents are going to have to kick in some.

You say each of the recipes called for half a pound of meat?  That's one pound and you bought three.  That isn't "close enough."  It's two pounds more than you need.

You really need to work on portion control.  Fill half the plate with your vegetables, a quarter each with meat and starch.  Some tricks to eating less include putting your fork down between bites and waiting 10-15 minutes before going for seconds.  When you go for seconds, go for the veggies.

Diabetic recipes shouldn't be high in fat or calories, so I don't really understand what you are looking at.  You are cooking meals with cream cheese, those can't be low in calories.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: grocery list for 10-6-2011 (12/8/2011 4:31:59 PM)

I'm not worried about calories to much, naturally I would be if it was 800 or 900 calories a serving, but under a certain amount say under 4-500 and I am just not going to freak out over calories. just carbs and sugar, and that it doesn't have hfcs in it or regular corn syrup if its premade. Because I'm not going to cook 100 percent from scratch all the time, some of my stuff is just going to have to be premade. They will be smarter selections, and I do watch the nutrition lists on premade stuff, but it's premade all the same.

You can freeze the extra pound of meat. It didn't cost that much more for 2 pounds than three, and you have the fixings for another meal.



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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady






You say each of the recipes called for half a pound of meat?  That's one pound and you bought three.  That isn't "close enough."  It's two pounds more than you need.



Diabetic recipes shouldn't be high in fat or calories, so I don't really understand what you are looking at.  You are cooking meals with cream cheese, those can't be low in calories.





Toppingfrmbottom -> Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 12:11:54 PM)

It's very simple only has 3-4 ingrediants, and It crock potted all night long.

2 lbs boneless, skinless chicken breast
1 large jar plain spaghetti sauce (no sugar)
2 large green peppers, cut into strips
1 small onion, onion

Toss in the crock pot and cook on low all day/night.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 12:13:54 PM)

There ya go tfb. Eating healthier and cheaper.

Not to mention that it's just cooler to make something yourself than to open a box and push buttons on the microwave.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 12:20:07 PM)

The boneless skinless chicken was a little bland even after having the sauce to soak in all night, so next time maybe I'll get the skin in and bone in kind, and I am sure that's why the chicken was 7 bucks, I didn't even register it was boneless and skinless when we bought it. B and Sless is often way more buck aroos.

The bell peppers and onions though were superb, and didn't even cut the onion very much, I cut it in half, and then cut it again so 1 half onion made 4 pieces, did that to the other side and threw it in. It was simple and I had very little to no eye burn that way,
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

There ya go tfb. Eating healthier and cheaper.

Not to mention that it's just cooler to make something yourself than to open a box and push buttons on the microwave.





Hillwilliam -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 12:25:42 PM)

As I said before. You're on your way to better, cheaper, healthier meals.

Win, Win, Win.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 12:41:13 PM)

Yup:)




kalikshama -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 12:47:24 PM)

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The boneless skinless chicken was a little bland even after having the sauce to soak in all night, so next time maybe I'll get the skin in and bone in kind, and I am sure that's why the chicken was 7 bucks, I didn't even register it was boneless and skinless when we bought it. B and Sless is often way more buck aroos.


Ya, boneless skinless breast is not the best for the crockpot. Earlier this week, I used a whole chicken which was $1.39/#.

After 5 hours on low I took it out, let it cool a bit, deboned it, and threw it back it. Complete recipe earlier in this thread.

I'm really happy to see you cooking and learning!







Hippiekinkster -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 1:15:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

The boneless skinless chicken was a little bland even after having the sauce to soak in all night, so next time maybe I'll get the skin in and bone in kind, and I am sure that's why the chicken was 7 bucks, I didn't even register it was boneless and skinless when we bought it. B and Sless is often way more buck aroos.

The bell peppers and onions though were superb, and didn't even cut the onion very much, I cut it in half, and then cut it again so 1 half onion made 4 pieces, did that to the other side and threw it in. It was simple and I had very little to no eye burn that way,
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

There ya go tfb. Eating healthier and cheaper.

Not to mention that it's just cooler to make something yourself than to open a box and push buttons on the microwave.


These days, commercial chicken from factory farms has all the flavor of cardboard. To help, try Brining.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: the recipe calls for canned mato paste and broth, but I am home making it. (12/9/2011 1:21:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom
Does any one have a simple chicken stock and tomato puree recipe that don't call for like 5-10 diff ingredients and 10 diff steps? I'm not going to make it from scratch if it's going to take 30 minutes to cook and 20 minutes of prep, which a lot of these recipes I am finding do. also I need enough broth to make 32 ounces and paste to make


If i were you, i would just buy them, and the same for the beans.

pam

I use "Better Than Boullion". Seems expensive compared to broth, but it;s cheaper per serving, and much better. There's a low sodium version.

I used R.L.Schreiber's in the restaurant. Good stuff, and available online.
http://www.rlschreiber.com/shop/catalog_category.asp?loc=101




Aylee -> RE: the recipe calls for canned mato paste and broth, but I am home making it. (12/9/2011 1:56:56 PM)

Pantry Staples:

Baking powder
Baking soda
Beans, canned: black beans, red kidney, white
Beans, dried: red kidney, great northern, lima, lentils, split pea, black, pinto
Bread crumbs
Broth, dried and canned: beef, vegetable, chicken
Cereal
Chocolate: unsweetened squares, semisweet chips, cocoa powder
Coffee: beans, ground, instant
Cooking spray
Cornmeal
Cornstarch
Crackers
Dried fruits: raisins, apricots
Extracts: vanilla, lemon, almond, orange
Flour: All-purpose, whole wheat, cake, bread
Fruit preserves, jam, jelly
Garlic, fresh
Gelatin: powdered, unflavored
Lemons, fresh
Limes, fresh
Milk: boxed, powdered, evaporated milk
Nuts: almonds, peanuts, walnuts, pecans, pine nuts
Onions: red and yellow
Pasta, dried: spaghetti, linguini, angel hair, fettuccine, penne, noodles
Peanut butter
Potatoes, fresh
Rice: long-grain, wild, basmati, arborio
Soup: canned and dry bouillon
Sugar: granulated, confectioner's, light and dark brown
Tea
Tomatoes: canned whole, crushed, chopped, puree, sauce, fresh
Tuna, canned
Yeast, dry active




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 3:27:37 PM)

Thank you, I do say so myself I loooooooooooove my crock pot.


I've seen turkey recipes I wanted to try, only turkeys are very expensive to get and to big for this family alone, so I have always contemplated one day getting a whole hen and doing the recipe on the whole hen instead of a turkey.
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama


Ya, boneless skinless breast is not the best for the crockpot. Earlier this week, I used a whole chicken which was $1.39/#.

After 5 hours on low I took it out, let it cool a bit, deboned it, and threw it back it. Complete recipe earlier in this thread.

I'm really happy to see you cooking and learning!





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To help, try Brining.




Aylee -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 3:48:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Thank you, I do say so myself I loooooooooooove my crock pot.


I've seen turkey recipes I wanted to try, only turkeys are very expensive to get and to big for this family alone, so I have always contemplated one day getting a whole hen and doing the recipe on the whole hen instead of a turkey.


So. . . you buy and cook the turkey and bag it up for other applications in cooking. Or buy the turkey, cut it up, and then freeze it for other applications. Turkeys are cheap. I cook several during the year. Hams are cheap also and can be used for several applications.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 4:56:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Thank you, I do say so myself I loooooooooooove my crock pot.


I've seen turkey recipes I wanted to try, only turkeys are very expensive to get and to big for this family alone, so I have always contemplated one day getting a whole hen and doing the recipe on the whole hen instead of a turkey.


So. . . you buy and cook the turkey and bag it up for other applications in cooking. Or buy the turkey, cut it up, and then freeze it for other applications. Turkeys are cheap. I cook several during the year. Hams are cheap also and can be used for several applications.
GOOD hams are pricey. I mean country hams. Best ham I have ever had is Jamon Iberico. It is insanely expensive.
http://blissfulglutton.com/food-find-jamon-iberico-at-star-provisions/
I wish I had known about Serrano ham when I was in Spain 88. I was right there in Andalucia. Granada. Fuck. I've always liked to try what is considered "the best".

Anyway, Virginia hams are the easiest to find, I think.





Aylee -> RE: Today's meal is Chicken Cacciatore (12/9/2011 5:20:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


GOOD hams are pricey. I mean country hams. Best ham I have ever had is Jamon Iberico. It is insanely expensive.
http://blissfulglutton.com/food-find-jamon-iberico-at-star-provisions/
I wish I had known about Serrano ham when I was in Spain 88. I was right there in Andalucia. Granada. Fuck. I've always liked to try what is considered "the best".

Anyway, Virginia hams are the easiest to find, I think.




It is unlikely that she will see a country ham, mostly you see city hams at the grocery store.

And with all of the "second meals" you can make, it really does make them rather cheap.

Of course, I routinely make extra food in order to freeze it for later meals. I do not always want to cook and they extra prep really takes very little more time.




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