samboct
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"What i am saying is simple, IF you start identifying people as fake -- it's time to step offline and re-acquaint yourself with the real world where there are people who lie, and cheat, and manipulate for create a facade. But if they bleed, they aren't fake. However, outside of TOS violations of profiles -- many people describe people as fake when they don't live up to -- according to the reader -- the person's profile in the way the reader expects them too. I don't know how many times people have complained people are FAKE slaves or subs or Doms. I think THAt is more of what the OP is speaking about. The site has processes in place to deal with the TOS violations -- so there would be no need to rate those as you should be REPORTING them." Angel- You're missing my point- so I'll try again. There are three categories under discussion: 1) People whose goal is to meet others of similar tastes and desires- i.e. a date. 2) People who want to extort money from these people- i.e. scammers. 3) People who want to taunt people using the site for its primary purpose- i.e. mocking them. Category 2 is clearly a violation of the TOS- they're scammers and out for a buck. Underage people are also a simple violation of the TOS- if they're clearly identified as such- but what about youngsters passing themselves off as someone older? This is a gray area- and a bit problematic IMHO. Category 3)- are people who have no intention of meeting anyone- they're merely looking for targets to torment. It's not much different from the "cool guys making fun of fags" that caused so much anguish for so many years- except this is done electronically and without the physical violence. The object of derision says that these people aren't real because admitting that someone has just been playing with your emotions is adding salt to a wound. It's not that you didn't measure up to some hypothetical dom/dommes, or subs standards (I suspect most of these folks claim to be dom/dommes but I have no data.)- its that the intent was that the standards are set so high or are arbitrary to watch you jump and fail. It's like reality TV- a lot of people love to watch others make fools of themselves. Calling these people "not real" is polite- the accurate words are cruel, mocking, sadists who enjoy tormenting others- in a non-consensual fashion. So yeah, there's a lot of anger here, as well there should be, because what these people are doing isn't very nice, is it? My suggestion- be more supportive of the people who've just been tormented. Dismissing their concerns as being nonsensical just adds a layer of additional shame when it's the people doing the mocking that deserve opprobrium. And please note- if these people aren't underage- there's no TOS violation here, is there? Sam
< Message edited by samboct -- 12/4/2011 6:12:12 PM >
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