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Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 3:20:57 PM

BitaTruble

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Scroll down for the actual questions in bold if you want to detour around the background:

Scenario:

Please keep in mind the unemployment rate, age of applicant and the economic times we are subject to at this point in history if you choose to respond. These are important factors to consider when so many are out of work and jobs are scarce for older folks.

A person who has been unemployed for 6-12 months, is between the ages of 55 and 60 gets offered two jobs.

Job A pays x (and would provide comfortable if modest living style)
Job B pays 3 times x

Benefits of both jobs are fairly equal as far as med insurance etc.

Job A - lower stress
Job B - high stress

Job A - middle management - small amount of power
Job B - upper management - lots of power

Job A - applicant has a passion for given industry but little hands on experience in it and would need training etc to get up to speed
Job B - applicant has burn-out syndrome for a given industry but extensive training decades long and would be able to hit the ground running

Job A requires a relocation
Job B requires no relocation

Here are the questions:

Would you choose a job in an industry you were passionate about even if it meant taking a substantial pay decrease?

Would you choose a job in an industry you no longer cared as much about because of a substantial financial reward?

Would you choose a job in an industry you no longer cared as much about because of the amount of power you could weild?

Would you turn down a job in an industry you were passionate about because you could not weild the power you have previously enjoyed in your career?

And the reason I posted in General BDSM discussion rather than off topic:

How much do you think your discovered/chosen core personality (whether d or s) would influence your decision on which job to take? What would be the prime motivation? Money, Power or Passion?

How much does who you are spill over into what you do for a living (if anything at all) in making these sorts of choices?

I thought I knew Himself pretty well after all these years but I was actually quite surprised at his answer to these questions hence my reason for the post. Obviously, individuals will all have their own reasons for what they do and I admit to being nothing more than nosy.. I'm just wondering if I will continue to be surprised by the responses (if any!)

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 3:32:09 PM

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I lied on my CV to omit an engineering degree to get any job I could. Financially I've downsized big time. I did it due to not wanting the shit any more & needing to stay local for my family. I have an open job in South Africa right on the Namib border 15 miles from the ocean pays into an offshore bank account & pays well. I'm still her e in the land of the Hills have eyes. Go figure lol

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 3:56:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Scroll down for the actual questions in bold if you want to detour around the background:

Scenario:

Please keep in mind the unemployment rate, age of applicant and the economic times we are subject to at this point in history if you choose to respond. These are important factors to consider when so many are out of work and jobs are scarce for older folks.

A person who has been unemployed for 6-12 months, is between the ages of 55 and 60 gets offered two jobs.

Job A pays x (and would provide comfortable if modest living style)
Job B pays 3 times x

Benefits of both jobs are fairly equal as far as med insurance etc.

Job A - lower stress
Job B - high stress

Job A - middle management - small amount of power
Job B - upper management - lots of power

Job A - applicant has a passion for given industry but little hands on experience in it and would need training etc to get up to speed
Job B - applicant has burn-out syndrome for a given industry but extensive training decades long and would be able to hit the ground running

Job A requires a relocation
Job B requires no relocation

Here are the questions:

Would you choose a job in an industry you were passionate about even if it meant taking a substantial pay decrease?

Would you choose a job in an industry you no longer cared as much about because of a substantial financial reward?

Would you choose a job in an industry you no longer cared as much about because of the amount of power you could weild?

Would you turn down a job in an industry you were passionate about because you could not weild the power you have previously enjoyed in your career?

And the reason I posted in General BDSM discussion rather than off topic:

How much do you think your discovered/chosen core personality (whether d or s) would influence your decision on which job to take? What would be the prime motivation? Money, Power or Passion?

How much does who you are spill over into what you do for a living (if anything at all) in making these sorts of choices?

I thought I knew Himself pretty well after all these years but I was actually quite surprised at his answer to these questions hence my reason for the post. Obviously, individuals will all have their own reasons for what they do and I admit to being nothing more than nosy.. I'm just wondering if I will continue to be surprised by the responses (if any!)

You're leaving out a key piece of information: The person's financial situation. A 55-year-old dom with a lot of debts and kids to put through school might take the money, while a 55-year-old dom who is single with a tidy bank account might take the passion.

In any case, I doubt you'd find a statistically correlation between the choice someone makes in this situation and their BDSM orientation. I can't see that my orientation would influence me one way or the other in this.

It's hard for me to know what I would do, because I've rarely encountered situations in real life that are as black-and-white and so neatly categorized as you're presenting this. My career choices have mostly been a balance between finding the best amount of passion, money and lifestyle. Also, I can only guess how being unemployed for a year would influence me. My guess is I would take an $250,000 a year job over an $80,000 a year job at this point in my life. But that really isn't a reflection of any core aspect of my personality, as much as I would like to make money right now.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 4:21:41 PM

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quote:

Would you choose a job in an industry you were passionate about even if it meant taking a substantial pay decrease?

Yes. I don't really care what a job pays as long as it pays my bills and I love what I'm doing.

quote:

Would you choose a job in an industry you no longer cared as much about because of a substantial financial reward?

No

quote:

Would you choose a job in an industry you no longer cared as much about because of the amount of power you could weild?

No

quote:

Would you turn down a job in an industry you were passionate about because you could not weild the power you have previously enjoyed in your career?

No

quote:

How much do you think your discovered/chosen core personality (whether d or s) would influence your decision on which job to take? What would be the prime motivation? Money, Power or Passion?

My core personality as a submissive personality plays a part in every single part of my life every single moment of every single day, in everything I do. I hate being the one in power, I hate being the leader, I absolutely hate being the one everyone else comes to. I'm much happier in a job where I can be behind the scenes, where someone says "do this" and then leaves me alone the rest of the time.

quote:

How much does who you are spill over into what you do for a living (if anything at all) in making these sorts of choices?

See above.

I left my last job not only because I wanted to be closer to Master but because I absolutely abhored it. I had a very well paying job, I wielded power, I was the one others came to and I gave orders to other people all day. I worked with law enforcement officers, with court administrators, etc...I was the one who signed papers giving people legal rights to things. But I hated it. I dreaded going to work every single day. Most days I would try to make excuses for why I couldn't go into work but being the responsible person I am I went into work anyway.

Now though I've decided that my next job will be with a company where I am passionate about what I do, where I can be behind the scenes and the pay will be the least of my considerations.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 4:46:08 PM

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This was an actual subject I faced a few years back with difficulty. After leaving the service, career options were limited due to skills developed. Picking the one that paid better then most, law enforcement entailed much in the way of power, authority, and control as well as a fair pay check. It did come at the cost of stress, a lot of stress as well as a loss of identity, privacy and other freedoms. I thought it was something I was passionate about, but come to find out after all I was experiencing, from the stress to the politics and corruption, it was not worth the "power" that came with it all.

Needless to say, I left it behind and pursued what I was more passionate about, and at half the pay I was making. I do not have the benefits I did then along with the large loss of pay. I do not have the "power" that the old career possessed. I do not live as "well" as I did then, but what I do have now is far less stress, less tension, a better sense of self worth, and a conscience I can sleep with at night!

I tell everyone who ever asks, chase what you want to do, no matter how ridiculous it may come across to others! We have one life to live, and living it in pure hell does not have appeal for me.. What about you?

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 5:47:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: domincalifornia

You're leaving out a key piece of information: The person's financial situation. A 55-year-old dom with a lot of debts and kids to put through school might take the money, while a 55-year-old dom who is single with a tidy bank account might take the passion.

Also, the person's age. At 25, I would have jumped on a career opportunity. At 55, I just want to live the rest of my career in relative peace. At 25, I was renting while at 55, I DO NOT want to uproot myself.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 7:39:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: domincalifornia

You're leaving out a key piece of information: The person's financial situation. A 55-year-old dom with a lot of debts and kids to put through school might take the money, while a 55-year-old dom who is single with a tidy bank account might take the passion.

Also, the person's age. At 25, I would have jumped on a career opportunity. At 55, I just want to live the rest of my career in relative peace. At 25, I was renting while at 55, I DO NOT want to uproot myself.

Sure, everyone's going to have their own considerations. My main point is that I doubt that a person's BDSM leanings would in any way affect their decision.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/7/2011 8:48:48 PM

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Regardless of the fact that I submit to the man I'm in love with, I go with the passion when possible. I've done it - taken the "lesser" job in an industry I was passionate about. I did it three years ago, and, true to form, three years later I'm promoted to higher levels and taking on more than was expected of me. It's just how I am at work. Only now I'm really enjoying myself because I love the industry and I love what we're doing.

Basically, no matter what level job many of us take, the person we are eventually takes us to the places we naturally evolve to. When opportunities arise, we grab them, if it's our nature to do so.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 10:39:03 AM

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I'd take the money. I want to retire before Im 75.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 10:57:52 AM

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I've taken the power. I've taken the "downsize" job.

It's got nothing to do with bdsm and everything to do with my and my family's situation.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 11:10:37 AM

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I would go with passion -- passion is what would enable me to stick with a job longer.
Besides, I'm really not a "power-weilding" type. I don't know if that has anything to do with me being in the /s way, though -- lots of other s-folk are successful business people and power brokers and CEOs.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 11:14:41 AM

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I do the responsible thing for me and mine. I weigh the pros and cons of all options and make my decisions based upon what is best for all.

To ME, to just follow my own passion without thought for all involved, my responsibilities, etc........would just be selfish. It's not me.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 2:54:30 PM

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My thanks to all you lovely folks for taking the time to respond and apologies for not putting more regarding the financial situation. I honestly just didn't think about it.. but, I do appreciate you all for the insights.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 5:01:46 PM

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I can see how it is this topic can have some relation to this lifestyle. There may be correlation between the two, and maybe not. Anywho.. LOL.. I find it to be an interesting topic as well!

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 9:28:35 PM

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I'm 46 years old and I used to earn a lot of money. Really, lots of money.

I was made redundant and had the choice of staying where I was, in a city I didn't really like, and take an even higher paid job with lots of stress in an industry I wasn't passionate about.

Instead, I chose to relocate to the city I love and retrain to be a teacher. I now earn 20% of my salary 5 years ago, I have student (and other) debts, I live in a much smaller house in a less salubrious area.

And I've never been happier.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 10:11:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: myotherself

I'm 46 years old and I used to earn a lot of money. Really, lots of money.

I was made redundant and had the choice of staying where I was, in a city I didn't really like, and take an even higher paid job with lots of stress in an industry I wasn't passionate about.

Instead, I chose to relocate to the city I love and retrain to be a teacher. I now earn 20% of my salary 5 years ago, I have student (and other) debts, I live in a much smaller house in a less salubrious area.

And I've never been happier.

..... Exactly....!

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/8/2011 10:14:09 PM

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My parents always said: do what you love; the money will follow. At age 30, being a practical girl I took half their advice.

In this case I had both: security (steady 1/2 time healthcare job at a community college w/benefits) and passion (two independent contracting businesses: jewelry appraising and music therapy for seniors and dementia patients.) And did I mention I got to work in the exact locale I love most on this planet? Did being dominant have anything to do with my choice? Sure, I like to get what I want and need and enjoy thinking outside the box to do so.

In all fairness, I had no children to raise. I live extremely simply while still being comfortable and wanting for nothing. My car is 21 years old (had it since new and will drive it into the ground) and my sweet, tiny little house supports itself through a rental on the property. I prefer people to 'things'. Other than fine musical instruments (which last and last and are a one time purchase) I have no expensive habits. This combination, along with fortuitous timing in the real estate market and good financial habits have allowed me passion, power, and a happy, comfortable life.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/9/2011 12:25:18 PM

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My fast response is go for money/power/stress, stay in your current location (no MOVING stress) and know the job---so no stress of being the floundering old person.

At 55-60, how many more working years are planned? It's important to get high earning years in for social security (if it's a US company) and for retirement savings. The future is just roo iffy these days IN MY OPINION for us to not grab for as much cash as we can. We can learn stress management, and ways around burnout.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/9/2011 12:52:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

My parents always said: do what you love; the money will follow.

My old man said the same thing when I was in college. I said "Well, if you can find a job where I can make good money fishing, fucking and drinking beer, please give me a heads up"

He just kinda shook his head. I have no idea why.

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RE: Power vs Passion - 12/9/2011 1:02:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

My parents always said: do what you love; the money will follow.

My old man said the same thing when I was in college. I said "Well, if you can find a job where I can make good money fishing, fucking and drinking beer, please give me a heads up"

He just kinda shook his head. I have no idea why.

Um. MDA? Your dad was full of it.

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