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Lucylastic -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 1:23:08 PM)

Here are some of the analogies Perry Might have played with
from Huffpo's Lucas Kravner
what you might not know is that Perry went through a host of others before his campaign managers insisted he settled on this one. Below are some of the rejected analogies uncovered from his personal notebook.

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If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why aren't public school teachers allowed to wear Santa Claus hats in class?

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why aren't children allowed to bring a bagged lunch to school filled with Christmas cookies, which they place discreetly around the cafeteria so everyone can see?

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, schools should use Christmas trees instead of desks.

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why can't we expel students who are allergic to pine needles, or complain that their desks are Christmas trees?

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why aren't nativity scenes built in the entryway of every public school so children could conceivably hold study hall inside the manger?

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, churches should be called schools and schools called churches, so that children are confused, and don't know when they're going to school and when they're going to church.

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, tell me we shouldn't build an electric wall on our border, on top of an electric fence, guarded by lions wearing Christmas scarves.

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, there must be a mandatory Secret Santa for students of all religious backgrounds, with no cap on prices for presents, so that the richest students become the most popular children of all!

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why are ornaments so fragile? (Rick Perry's note to self: "Best one so far.")

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why aren't children allowed to sing "Deck the Halls" for their history class, instead of presenting a Power Point presentation on the Peloponnesian War?

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, Christmas sweaters should be worn openly by principals of every public school.

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why can't a child compliment the principal on his or her Christmas sweater, and why can't the principal then say, "Thank you for complementing me on my Christmas sweater," so that the child is reminded that the sweater is not simply multi-colored and ill-fitting, but also celebrates the birth of Christ?

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, then that principal -- the one with the Christmas sweater -- must be given an award for being the Best Principal In The World, which I will present.

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, we should leave all our lights on in the house and plug as many devices into the walls as possible before we go outside, because the energy crisis is absurd, and this will prove it.

If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military, why can't children drape Christmas lights around their neck and parade around town proclaiming, "I am the Christmas king!" TELL ME THAT, AMERICA? TELL ME WHY NOT?

The figure on the dislike vote 470,536




thompsonx -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 2:25:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I watched it. I did not see the "anti-gay" part. I saw a comparison of freedoms. If you are free to state that you are gay in the military then little Johnny should be free to pray outloud in school.



It is pretty simple:
Johnny cannot conduct services in school because it is a public school and the constitution says he cannot. If johnny wants to say grace over his meal he can do so without disturbing anyone else and the constitution says so.
Bruce can be openly gay in the military because the constitution says he can and the services have finally become aware of that fact.




thompsonx -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 2:31:46 PM)

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If gay soldiers are allowed to serve openly in the military,
Christmas sweaters should be worn openly by principals of every public school

Only if said principal has a nice rack and the sweater is spandex[;)]






Fetters4U -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 2:37:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

I mean, were talking about people who thought that a woman showing a flash of ankle needed to spend some time in the stocks for her "indecency."


You say that like it's a bad thing?




tweakabelle -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 2:40:53 PM)

I've just looked at it now (c 0930 AEST). A humongous 480908 dislikes vs a paltry 12329 likes.

If Perry did this as a cheap stunt to breathe some life back into his moribund campaign (which appears to me the most likely explanation), then these numbers suggest it has been an epic fail.

I wonder if those numbers are an accurate reflection of the exact size of the looney Right in the USA?




kalikshama -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 2:56:45 PM)

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I saw a comparison of freedoms. If you are free to state that you are gay in the military then little Johnny should be free to pray outloud in school.


A BIZARRE comparison, as illustrated in http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lucas-kavner/rick-perry-strong-video_b_1135700.html (thanks Lucy).

And yes, little Johnny is free to pray at school - it's (state) school-sponsored prayer that is prohibited, per the US Supreme Court, in 1962. Hard to blame Obama for this one. [8|]




slvemike4u -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/9/2011 3:09:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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I watched it. I did not see the "anti-gay" part. I saw a comparison of freedoms. If you are free to state that you are gay in the military then little Johnny should be free to pray outloud in school.


I am as adamant about freedom of religion as I am about freedom of speech but I qualify that with the equally strongly held belief that one person's rights end where the next person's rights begin. All to often when someone says "freedom of religion" what they really mean is "my freedom to deny others their rights because my god disapproves." I think Perry falls into that camp.

I do agree, though, that little Johnny has the right to say grace over his lunch before he consumes it without interference from the state.

Come on now,lets be clear...little Johnny can say grace any time his little heart desires.What can not be done is that the Teacher,nor school administators ,can get up and lead the class in an organized prayer.Two distinctly different scenarios,no?




Owner59 -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 3:35:32 PM)

More people dislike Perry`s vid than dislike Rebecca Black`s "Fridays"

Just to demonstrate how significant this,one must watch Black`s video..................to the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0&feature=player_embedded

IMO,Black`s video could be used to break terrorists.[:D]



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/08/rick-perry-rebecca-black-youtube-dislikes_n_1138000.html?ref=mostpopular





BanthaSamantha -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 4:26:08 PM)

Any suggestion that children aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas or pray in school is false.


http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/dec/09/rick-perry/rick-perry-says-kids-cant-openly-celebrate-christm/




rulemylife -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 4:27:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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I do agree, though, that little Johnny has the right to say grace over his lunch before he consumes it without interference from the state.


On this I agree. I do not agree with school sponsored or mandated prayer. But if johnny and a few of his friends want a prayer over lunch, who is anyone to tell them no.


They are allowed to.

It is only school mandated prayer that is not allowed.

School Prayer Law & Legal Definition




imperatrixx -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 6:25:01 PM)

flagged it as hate speech for the lulz




Owner59 -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 6:50:53 PM)

Call me coy but I`m not sure I want my leaders using "faith to make America strong again"..........


Just do your fuck`n job and mind your own faith,you pompous ass!


Besides the lie about praying in school,he mentions gays being able to serve legally in the armed services......


Implying that it`s anti religious and what`s wrong with America.




DomKen -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 9:53:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I watched it. I did not see the "anti-gay" part. I saw a comparison of freedoms. If you are free to state that you are gay in the military then little Johnny should be free to pray outloud in school.

little johnny is free to pray in school. A public school may not force little noah or achmed to say the Lord's Prayer every morning.




Owner59 -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/11/2011 10:44:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

I watched it. I did not see the "anti-gay" part. I saw a comparison of freedoms. If you are free to state that you are gay in the military then little Johnny should be free to pray outloud in school.

Something`s wrong with America b/c gays can serve in the military????

Yeah I didn`t see that either.....

Willful ignorance is another thing that`s wrong in America.

And who says little johny can`t pray outloud anywhere he wants?

Reality check:

You should be more concerned that little johny is going to get his ass kicked and hazed his whole childhood for acting like a weirdo in class.




tweakabelle -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/12/2011 2:00:21 AM)

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Owner59
Call me coy but I`m not sure I want my leaders using "faith to make America strong again"..........



Perry might claim that but my guess is that he will settle for "faith making the opinion polls strong again ....."

This time.

Any time.

Every time.

If God is on your side in the race, what does losing the race tell you ..................... ?




Marc2b -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/12/2011 6:30:16 AM)

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You say that like it's a bad thing?


It is a dilemma. On the one hand I do approve of women in stocks but on the other hand I also approve of them showing as much flesh as possible. I think the puritans got it backwards. They put women in stocks for not wearing enough clothing... I think we should put women in stocks for being too covered up.

"Young lady, I cannot see your breasts at all. Either disrobe now or I'll have to place you under arrest."




Marc2b -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/12/2011 6:31:38 AM)

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Come on now,lets be clear...little Johnny can say grace any time his little heart desires.What can not be done is that the Teacher,nor school administators ,can get up and lead the class in an organized prayer.Two distinctly different scenarios,no?


My point exactly.




LaTigresse -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/12/2011 7:20:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

I watched it. I did not see the "anti-gay" part. I saw a comparison of freedoms. If you are free to state that you are gay in the military then little Johnny should be free to pray outloud in school.



It is pretty simple:
Johnny cannot conduct services in school because it is a public school and the constitution says he cannot. If johnny wants to say grace over his meal he can do so without disturbing anyone else and the constitution says so.
Bruce can be openly gay in the military because the constitution says he can and the services have finally become aware of that fact.



Exactly.

Rick Perry is a moron. It's been obvious from the beginning. The repubs are not going to get ANYwhere as long as they keep pandering to the religious right.

There was actually a good editorial in the NY Times about this either yesterday or today.




PeonForHer -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/12/2011 10:07:58 AM)

FR

*Chuckle*. Hilarious!

You poor Americans - how embarrassing!




tazzygirl -> RE: Rick Perry's Anti Gay video - 411,019 dislikes and counting (12/12/2011 10:12:17 AM)

Peon, I know, right?

~sighs

Our only saving grace is that not everyone believes he has potential.




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