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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/9/2011 10:00:10 PM   
anniezz338


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Status: offline 		Yes DesFIP, the message en route was one of those "that's not fair" moments. And i would probably wet myself if he pulled out a saw and plastic sheeting. But overall, it's been more positive than negative. i think he is broadening some borders and i am definitely paying attention to him, learning and reading more about him.

MIP, thanks for the samples. Mixing a littel sick and twisted with safe, sane and consensual....it's fun. Would i want mind fucks on a regular basis? uh, no. But it is making some pretty good aha moments

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 1:47:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Depends how you define mindfuck - and that will be different for each of us.

If I'm not inside her head then it's "just" kink (nothing wrong with kink: I enjoy it too but dominance is deeper)

Creating anticipation is fun - but that goes on in her head - so is that teasing - or mindfucking? Your mileage WILL vary...

As for the driving text - how hard is it to pull over, read the text, respond, and drive on? Must take a whole minute... of course if the text is "go here instead" or "stop off and buy x on the way" it might take longer - by design.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 4:27:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		The thing is, we only tend to, at least I do, mind fucks to people who enjoy it and we only take it as far as we feel that person can cope with it.

Things I have done;
bondaged a guy up and then have him kneel on polythene sheeting with his head bowed towards the floor. He could see his blood running onto the polythene beneath him.
What I was actually using was warmed fake blood but he believed he was being cut.

Tied a guy up and then took a phone call which made me very angry. (the phone call was really just an alarm going off on my phone) Stomping around the room saying I felt like killing someone right now and then just turning to him and glaring at him.

A friend brought his sub to our house blindfolded and not knowing what to expect (he was there the whole time) I coerced her in by telling her that I was Steves slave and I would guide her to make sure she pleased him in every way but kept doing vindictive little things that got her into trouble with Steve. Her realization that she couldn't trust this vindictive little sadistic slave (Me) really through her.

Interrogation scenes and kidnap scenes where the person is disorientated and made to feel incredibly vulnerable.

Lets remember that the sort of submissive who wants to do this will often challenge you to put fear into their souls. I always say, be careful what you ask for.
On the other hand when I do such scenes I am constantly monitoring reactions. Its pushing boundaries with people who want those boundaries pushed.


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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 6:07:28 AM   
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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 6:08:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		That sounds quite good to me.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 6:40:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whenready...it was an IM, i don't have internet on my phone.

MariaB...wow good ones. The first two would freak me out. The third, the phone is going to be ringing on the communication line.

He says a good Dom doesn't ruin a good sub, and each sub is different, so i can see the need for caution. And mindfucks do have a way of getting ones attention. A few eeek moments can keep things interesting. To date, nothing too awful....so far.


lw....i could only imagine

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 6:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those are great ones, Maria :)

The force behind a good mindfuck, for me, is that it's done by someone who "could" do those things. Some people aren't convincing, you know? They may just lack (or they haven't convinced you that they have) whatever it might take to carry through with XYZ, so you just can't imagine that it's real.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 7:58:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I blindfolded mine, drove around for a while, took him into a friends, tied him face down to a bed, opened the curtains and spanked his ass. He thought he was in a hotel. Told him I was going to get ice and left him there for the next couple of hours. He swore that he could hear people stopping by the window to laugh at him. We were actually in the den playing cards. Yes, baby monitor in place.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 8:41:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		A friends face lit up recently when she told me about what her dominant (husband) did to her one night. Keep in mind that her biggest fantasy was to be in a gang bang situation or given away to be used by another man.
He text her and told her to meet him in a particular apartment lobby at a certain time. He had rented out the penthouse sweet with its own lift but when he put the blindfold on her in the lift and demanded she fully stripped, which she duly did, she believed that when the lift door opened she was going to be walking in a public area. His friend was waiting as the lift door opened and let out an immediate snigger and a little wolf whistle before entering the lift and leaving.
Her husband ordered pizza to be delivered and when the doorbell rang he shoved her still naked and blindfolded into the bathroom. She could hear him talking to the Irish delivery man and saying he'd forgotten his wallet but would he take payment in kind, at which point they both entered the bathroom. He told her she was going to entertain the delivery man, which she did!!
The delivery man was the same guy who had whistled at her in the lift. He was in fact a good scene friend of theirs and just put the Irish accent on.

You are right Lilly, the only way you can do a good mind fuck is to absolutely convince the 'victim' that something untoward is really happening or about to happen to them.
Believe me, when I tie a guy up and whisper in his ear, 'do you trust me? and he gives me a firm 'yes' from the moment I say, 'well you shouldn't' I have put doubt in his mind. All I need is that seed of doubt to play with.


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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 8:54:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't suppose you have a sister living in the midlands Maria?

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 9:28:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

I don't suppose you have a sister living in the midlands Maria?


Tsk tsk Ninebelowzero, you just need to get your ass down south



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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 9:30:48 AM   
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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 9:58:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like we may have match...let the mindfucks begin haha.



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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/10/2011 4:24:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure I'd call them "mindfucks", really. But not sure what else to call them, either. I don't think either of the two you described were very sadistic, either. The first one was actually kind of inventive--Get you all worked up and stressed over the idea, then let you enjoy a nice relaxing spa to release it. The second is more an adrenaline rush. But as someone else pointed out, be careful with those kinds. I've seen some pretty nasty accidents caused when the adrenaline starts pumping, overriding everything else.

As far as opinions about them go.. You seem to enjoy them and they are not constant/every day or over-the-top, so.. Enjoy them!

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/12/2011 3:10:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is one of my favorite things. I happen to love the rollercoaster ride. I was reading some interesting ideas on mindfucking.....

https://fetlife.com/groups/1168/group_posts/1323681

It is amazing what a few carefully chosen words and a prop or two can do to ones pysche.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/12/2011 9:02:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338
Yes DesFIP, the message en route was one of those "that's not fair" moments.


I wouldn't be saying "That's not fair". I'd be saying this is a hard limit. Equal to him pouring a bottle of vodka down you and then demanding you drive. Around here, judges take cell phone use seriously. And NYS is tossing around not just fines but jail time for accidents that occur as a result of using them. It's pretty standard here if an accident case goes to court to subpoena cell phone files to see if it was in use at the time.

It isn't something I would ever have to worry about since his rules include no cell phone use while driving. Sounds like your M could benefit from some education about the dangers of this. Since the kid in a stroller you might kill wouldn't have been given the opportunity to consent to being involved in his play.


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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/13/2011 6:22:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mind fucks are amazing! I met a Dom once, that I played with upon the first meet that terrified me into a shaking crying mess. It also had to deal with a plastic coated floor and a chair with chains attached to it. Even before I let him lead me to it, I thought I had met my end, but at the same time was praying it wasn't. The fear junkie got the best of me and I was at his mercy Hoping for the best, even after he told me I wasn't going home again. It was a complete rush. I have recently found someone that I hope will scare me like that again.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/14/2011 9:19:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had a playmate once who hated having her picture taken (I mean ever, not just without clothing).  The subject of "mind-fucks" came up over dinner and she asked if I could come up with something to really screw with her mind.  I asked her if she really wanted me to go there...she did.

A couple of weeks later she came over for a playdate.  I knew she had completely forgotten about our conversation.   I took her up to the bedroom, once she was naked, I secured her to the bed, and blindfolded her.  I took out my camera, set it take pictures rapidly.  Ensured there was no film, and proceeded to trigger the shutter.  It was a nice rig with a very robust autowinder.  

Best mindfuck ever...worth the bruise on my arm that I got when I untied her...after showing her the camera had no film!

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 12/15/2011 12:33:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Casteele

Not sure I'd call them "mindfucks", really. But not sure what else to call them, either. I don't think either of the two you described were very sadistic, either.



A mind fuck is only a mind fuck if it fucks with the mind of the person you are playing with or the people watching. If it doesn't fuck with their mind then its not a mind fuck. if it does it is!! Mind fucks can include fear, apprehension and uncertainty but don't have to include anything physically sadistic. It often involves a lot of imagination, planning and creativeness and when done for performance purposes its not the recipient getting the mind fuck but the audience watching that performance (who are pre warned) It can involve a bundle of tricks to create a smoke and mirrors effect. I once used a drill, a saw and a lot of fake blood in a performance but I also used an actor as the recipient.
Its like marmite, you either love it or hate it. The bottom line is though, its all done under a controlled environment. Nobody gets harmed.

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RE: Sadistic mind fucks - 1/3/2012 7:08:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Whenready
As for the driving text - how hard is it to pull over, read the text, respond, and drive on? Must take a whole minute... of course if the text is "go here instead" or "stop off and buy x on the way" it might take longer - by design.

...When you're on an interstate highway with zoobs o' high speed traffic, a long way between exits, and there are lots of "emergency use only" signs.  The Ohio patrol guys are surly, humorless sorts.  I think there's a special test for it at the academy!

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