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Iamsemisweet -> GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 8:31:18 AM)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/monsantos-gmo-corn-linked_n_420365.html





Kirata -> RE: GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 9:35:12 AM)


Why am I not surprised? (rhetorical question)

Thanks for posting that.

K.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 12:42:47 PM)

A post I made on Fet (fairly long):

quote:

Not so fast, Michaela. Quinn may possibly be correct.

From the 2007 EFSA Statement (FSANZ Site footnotes):
"The Panel has considered all Student t-test results for the various contrasts provided by Monsanto, including the direct comparison of the GM maize exposed groups with the respective non-GM near-isogenic control groups, and evaluated all statistically significant differences in the test parameters. These differences have been evaluated with respect to (i) type and severity, (ii) extent and frequency of occurrence, and (iii) potential dose and sex relationship.
Observed differences in test parameters of exposed male and female rats were in most cases neither dose-related nor sex-dependent. In some cases there was an increase and in some cases a decrease in value and these were considered as isolated phenomena occurring by chance. Changes observed in certain serum or urine analysis parameters were not indicative of damage in, for instance, liver, spleen or kidney, since histopathological analysis did not show statistically significant effects."

The Student's T tests are what is significant (pun intended). I note that the determination rests, as far as I know, on the assumption that Monsanto's data wasn't "massaged", as certain corporate studies have been known to do (check out "Neurontin data" for an egregious example. Pharm compnaies get fined all; the time for shit like data manipulation and failing to submit unfavorable study results.)

Assuming Monsanto is on the up-and-up (>snort<), it would appear that there is disagreement between the governmental reviews of the statistical methods (EFSA) and the Seralini paper. (I have only checked on the credentials of one of the EFSA reviewers, Dr. Hilko van der Voet: Ph.D U of Gröningen, 1988, Mathematics and Sciences. While not a Ph.D Statician, he appears to be qualified.)

However, http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/publi

I agree that a new study should be performed (NOT by Monsanto) with a duration considerably longer than 90 days.

Considering all of the above, I don't think anything is conclusive, but I am biased against corporate-sponsored toxicology studies, as well as being convinced that Monsanto is a division of SATAN, Inc.
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kalikshama -> RE: GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 3:05:38 PM)

Inspiring story shows shortcut to end GMOs

It took the audience just 11 minutes – 11 minutes to give up food brands they had grown up with and to commit to seek healthier non-GMO food. Of course this group had already been against genetically modified organisms as a concept. This was Greenfest after all; and in San Francisco no less. But when I asked them to honestly rate themselves on a scale of 1-100 how vigilant they had been at avoiding GMOs, the largest number of hands went up for lowest category – 1-20. That’s typical of most US audiences. And so is what happened next…

After showing them photos of damaged organs from lab rats fed GMOs, skin rashes from farm workers picking GM cotton, and dead livestock that had grazed on the cotton plants; when they saw rodent studies showing a 5-fold increase in infant mortality, smaller babies, sterile babies, and severe immune responses; when they realized that genes inserted into GM crops can transfer into the DNA of bacteria inside our intestines and possibly continue to function, and that the poisonous insecticide engineered into Monsanto’s corn is found in the blood of pregnant women and unborn fetuses; when they learned how industry rigs their research to hide dangers and attacks independent scientists and their studies; when they discovered that FDA scientists had repeatedly warned of serious harm from GMOs, but the political appointee in charge―Monsanto’s former attorney―allowed GM foods on the market without any required safety tests; and when they discovered that the same doctors’ organization that first identified Gulf War syndrome, chemical sensitivities, and food allergies, now urges physicians to prescribe non-GMO diets to everyone; I asked the audience to rate themselves how vigilant they would be next week to avoid GMOs.

Read more: http://www.responsibletechnology.org/blog/1782




Termyn8or -> RE: GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 3:08:16 PM)

Yes.

Any other questions ?

Like :"Does the President care about me" or "Will the government stop car wrecks by making people buy insurance" or "Will they feed me if I starve" or "If I pay them every week will they take care of me when I get too old to work" ?

Grow your own, and plant some weed in between to help with the bills. Either you sell it and pay them or smoke it and don't care.

T^T




kalikshama -> RE: GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 3:17:58 PM)

"Three varieties of Monsanto's GM corn - Mon 863, insecticide-producing Mon 810, and Roundup® herbicide-absorbing NK 603 - were approved for consumption by US, European and several other national food safety authorities."

[:'(]




joether -> RE: GMO corn linked to organ failure (12/9/2011 7:55:39 PM)

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Per the Article:
Monsanto has immediately responded to the study, stating that the research is "based on faulty analytical methods and reasoning and do not call into question the safety findings for these products."

The IJBS study's author Gilles-Eric Séralini responded to the Monsanto statement on the blog, Food Freedom, "Our study contradicts Monsanto conclusions because Monsanto systematically neglects significant health effects in mammals that are different in males and females eating GMOs, or not proportional to the dose. This is a very serious mistake, dramatic for public health. This is the major conclusion revealed by our work, the only careful reanalysis of Monsanto crude statistical data."


[sarcasm]

A corporation that puts profits ahead of health concerns for Americans? I'm so....

....shocked....

[/sarcasm]




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