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Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 12:37:05 AM   
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"Oh goodness I don't know, my moms got a whole bunch of spices, things like the usual paprika, chilly powder, which I don't like spicy things, so those are out, Kosher sea salt, chopped sage, dill dried lemon, those kinda things, they got a shit load of spice bottles."

So what is in a properly equipped kitchen ?

SALT. This is obvious unless you have a certain condition and you can't have any at all. Most important is to avoid the regular stuff that never clumps. Salt that is not bad for the body will usually say on the bottle "WARNING : This salt will clumop up if left uncovered" or something like that.

Too much sodium is no good even if it's the best salt, so other than in soups or potato dishes, it should chiefly be used when cooking meat. Salt affects the way most meat cooks.

PEPPER. You either like it or you don't. It should be fresh though. Use in many dishes containing potatoes or cheese. Not all.

ONION POWDER. Not onion salt. It's a bit more expensive but worth every penny. Use it sparingly, VERY sparingly. Shake a little onto your hand before putting it in or on the food. Smell it.

GARLIC POWDER. Same as the onion powder but triple. Some people can't stand it, others will crave it but in VERY small amounts. Too much is a fate worse than death.

MSG. Modern MSG is garbage and if you have it, use it about twice a year and no more. I'd like to find a source for the real old style stuff but things are not looking too hopeful. Actually a much better alternative which is close somewhat is KELP. It's not the same as MSG but it's the best we can do. KELP is made from seaweed, or at least it used to be.

CAYENNE PEPPER. For heat if you like things hot. Also there is "crushed red pepper" which has a different heat. The two have different flavors if you're into that, but if not just get the cheyenne and the bottle will probably last you a lifetime.

THYME. This is used on pork and especially chicken. You can use it on other things but it's really indicated for the pig and the bird. Also in stuffing.

SAGE. Sage does certain cuts of pork really good. It is in sausage actually. You can use just a teeny bit on chicken, and I just don't think it should be used on beef, but you do what you want.

WHITE PEPPER. This mainly goes on chicken. The flavor is that of pepper but mild, and it has other flavor to it than just heat, and it is VERY NOT hot. You can use it on pork but you have to use alot and it is not all that cheap.

PAPRIKA. Now technically this is pepper, but it is Hungarian, so get it from Hungary. The junk they sell in the US is just about food coloring in most cases. I got some Szeged sweet and some Bende hot. I mix them when I make chicken paprikash. I make chicken soup even more rarely but those two dishes are the cheif uses for paprika. Well beef stroganoff too but what else ? You CAN use it in alot of things. I am sure it would be great in a bunch of potato dishes. It's an ingedient in potato salad usually and actually goes good on top, I use it whenever I eat potato or macaroni salad.

ZEST. Now for chicken or pork, ZEST is bad to the bone. You don't actually have to buy it. Want lemon zest ? Wash a lemon and then find something to scrape the yellow off it. Same with an orange which then would yield orange zest. You don't want the white, just the colored part of it. You just let that dry somewhere and once that's done it is great on chicken and pork.

DILL. Seed or weed, the only thing I use this on is the KCS (killer chicken sandwiches) which are fried in bacon and VERY spicy. If you want to use it, get it finely ground. One pinch too much and you can wreck a gallon of something. But used just right it is good.

MUSTARD. It's a little hard to use because it is so strong. I can stand it but to spice at a level normal humans can handle you have to be careful. Mainly again the spice is used on meat. You can put it in a marinade for chicken for example, or just sprinkle it on some pork. Because it's so strong, you have to be really careful or mix it.

You can get a small bowl and mix these spices and then they get applied equally across all the food. But in doing so what you do is to simply make your own spice mixture, like adobo, chicken rub, or anything of that sort. If you come up with the right combionation maybe you'll be the next Colonel Sanders.

But do add to the list. Aot of people are oput there doing cooking different ways and I think it would be good to share some of this. As you think them up, post it and tell what it's used for.

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 2:26:39 AM   
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curry powder: a dash in deviled eggs makes them very nice. this can range from mild to spicy.
rosemary: a fresh bush is best, but dried can be good. lamb is common over here, so it's handy to have on hand for any lamb dishes
basil: fresh is my favourite. tomato, bocconcini and fresh basil. yum! also good on a pizza fresh out of the oven, goes with pretty much any tomato dish, and of course pesto.
smoked paprika is another step up in taste sensation - give it a try if you can get your hands on it.
nutmeg: good for many baked treats, but also adds a subtle lift to creamy sauces such as the beschemal for lasagne

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 4:04:08 AM   
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Instead of stocking separate containers of MARJORAM, THYME, ROSEMARY, SAVORY, SAGE, OREGANO, AND BASIL I just use Italian seasoning.

Instead of stocking separate containers of cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, clove, allspice, and mace, I just use pumpkin pie seasoning.

I became very familiar with Indian cooking after my three years at the yoga center and ashram, and then lived with a man who loved Thai cooking. Now I substitute red curry paste for yellow Indian spices to create recipes such as Thai Tandoori chicken.

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 4:06:35 AM   
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my favorite ex-gf's mom gave me this http://www.spicesinc.com/p-1481-ronis-starter-set-for-the-new-cook.aspx for the holidays last year and it has served me well. i added this one http://www.spicesinc.com/p-2076-indian-spices-collection.aspx for myself because i like to be all experimental.

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 4:56:06 AM   
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Cinnamon is easily onne of my favorite spices. I'd always just bought the cheap brand because I grew up with it and never thought there was a difference. Recently I went to a place called Penzey Spices and found thaat cinnamon (and other things) there didn't cost much more than what I had been buying but the experience was so much different. It's so aromatic, it's like I've never eaten cinnamon before. And it only takes a little, so this jar has lasted for quite a while, and made the purchase more sensible.



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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 6:21:20 AM   
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There is an allspice, a combination of 5 spices that can be used for various dishes.  I want to find the recipe but I am too lazy.

At Sam's, we brought some rosemary and garlic seasoning.  Goes great with mashed potatoes.

I used to have a zester but it got lost in the numerous moves.  Probably break down and get another one after Christmas.

We also get a garlic pepper seasoning from Sam's and use it in most of our cooking.

We also cook with lemon juice and Italian dressing.  It makes the chicken breasts much tender.

What is the most essential cooking "tool" needed in the kitchen?  We use the cooking spoons a lot, next to the forks for flipping the breasts over.


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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 6:37:46 AM   
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Chives!!!!

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 7:47:27 AM   
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I use Coriander and Cumin pretty often along with the rest that were mentioned and since I live in MD, Old Bay Seasoning is a staple here.

Edited to add: Bay Leaves. I make a lot of soup and throw a bay leaf or two in every pot.


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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 7:58:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

MSG. Modern MSG is garbage and if you have it, use it about twice a year and no more. I'd like to find a source for the real old style stuff but things are not looking too hopeful. Actually a much better alternative which is close somewhat is KELP. It's not the same as MSG but it's the best we can do. KELP is made from seaweed, or at least it used to be.



MSG is a spice? As in, "Hey, kids, we're having MSG chicken for dinner?"

Not making my mouth water at all...


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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 7:59:11 AM   
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I have just about everything except some of the spices used in middle eastern/indian food. I do not care for the flavour of those so do not use them.

I try to keep as much fresh as makes sense, usually some ginger root in the fridge, and I grow some herbs in the summer that I tend to use a lot of, basil, dill, etc. But yeah, one entire section of my kitchen cabinets is full. Three shelves, and most are stacked upon one another. I cook a lot and I hate bland boring cooking.


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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 8:02:05 AM   
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There's an indian spice that I had at a hippie restaurant here, in a sauce on a fruit dessert. It was so freaking delicious, but I can't remember the name of it... I guess I'll just have to go into Penzey's and sniff everything -- oh the torment. :p



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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 8:02:57 AM   
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For ME, that is the problem I have with some of those spices. To my palate they belong more in desserts than in main dishes. 

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 8:10:42 AM   
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quote:

There's an indian spice that I had at a hippie restaurant here, in a sauce on a fruit dessert. It was so freaking delicious, but I can't remember the name of it... I guess I'll just have to go into Penzey's and sniff everything


Try cardamom.

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 8:24:08 AM   
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I sniffed some cardamom but I'm not sure that was it. Pretty snazzy though, so I plan to get some of that anyway. I know the dessert had cardamom, but there was also something else... any other suggestions? You lived there for a time, so you might have some ideas.

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 9:15:49 AM   
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Rose water?

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 9:17:57 AM   
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I have half the side of the refrigerator stocked with tins of spices <magnetic spice holders>. I like to use spices in almost everything because it's healthier and less calories than sauces and butters and whatnot.

I can't be without curry powder since I love to make indian and thai foods. Paprika because I'm of Slovakian heritage and I make a lot of slovakian foods and paprika is a common staple spice. Cinnamon is used a lot in my Fall dishes both savory and sweet and I used a lot of basil, oregano, thyme and bay leafs since I love to make soups....oh and cardamom...great for German noodle dishes.



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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 11:00:58 AM   
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One thing I've now realized - I forgot a hell of alot of them.

Oh, and about MSG ? It has changed. I don't think it used to be as bad for you for one, but it also tastes different. I used to use it on alot of things - eggs for example but no more. It's just not the same I tellya and I can live without it. In fact I ran out about a year ago and haven't bothered to buy more. I might if I see a deal, but I am OK without it.

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 12:11:29 PM   
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quote:

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There is an allspice, a combination of 5 spices that can be used for various dishes.  I want to find the recipe but I am too lazy.



True allspice is a single spice in the pepper family, not a combo of 5 spices. Fresh ground allspice is essential for Caribbean cooking.

And Termy, anyone who puts MSG on a list of essential spices shouldnt be allowed near a kitchen!

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 12:18:54 PM   
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That's what I thought, too, willbeurdaddy, but I wasn't sure.
Wikipedia -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allspice

kalikshama -- now I'm thinking it was cardamom and nutmeg -- nutmeg I think was the mystery spice. so not so exotic. hahaha :p
Thanks!

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RE: Spices. Inspired by another thread - 12/12/2011 12:21:22 PM   
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I have half the side of the refrigerator stocked with tins of spices <magnetic spice holders>. I like to use spices in almost everything because it's healthier and less calories than sauces and butters and whatnot.

I can't be without curry powder since I love to make indian and thai foods. Paprika because I'm of Slovakian heritage and I make a lot of slovakian foods and paprika is a common staple spice. Cinnamon is used a lot in my Fall dishes both savory and sweet and I used a lot of basil, oregano, thyme and bay leafs since I love to make soups....oh and cardamom...great for German noodle dishes.




Do you stack the tins or do you stick them vertically to the sides of the refrigerator? I saw a set of 16 online for $34 and it looks like a great way to clear up shelf space, putting them in the garage refrigerator.

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