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Ozimandias -> San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 3:28:51 AM)

Clean, Safe, and Very Discreet submissive gay man in San Francisco is seeking Married or single, Straight MEN in the Bay Area who are in their late 30's up to 60+, desiring one-time or regular, ongoing oral service and more by a submissive man devoted to their pleasure with no expectation of reciprocation. I'm also interested in meeting Married Bisexual Men. I am exclusively devoted to the service of married, predominantly straight men. I do not meet with gay men. While I have a strong attraction to white, latino, and middle eastern men, all will be considered. (Please understand that I'm looking for quality and not quantity.)

Your body type and age are of little importance. Under no circumstances will there be any street drugs permitted, excessive alcohol consumption, nor any other behavior that would in any way disturb the very private nature of these encounters. Because of the delicate and private nature of these meetings, I am not asking for public pictures that could endanger anyone's privacy, nor shall I be able to post any public pictures for the same reason.

You may share as much or little information about yourself in your initial contact which is comfortable for you. This is a very serious search which should not even be considered by the young and foolish, but by someone who has some common sense and maturity as well as honesty and integrity. As we communicate further any other issues of concern can be discussed. Current pictures available for men who get in touch with me. Daytime, Evening, and Weekend encounters will be possible.






DarkSteven -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 3:32:44 AM)

Dude, the first thing that flashed through my mind is that straight and married men are the easiest to blackmail.  Especially since you're available 24/7 so you evidently may not have another source of income.

Would you care to provide another explanation for the fact that you do not go for gay men and single men?




searching4mysir -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 4:24:42 AM)

What kind of service are you looking to provide for a straight male? Do you fix cars? Do you cook? Woodworking? Housework?




thishereboi -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 4:28:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Dude, the first thing that flashed through my mind is that straight and married men are the easiest to blackmail.  Especially since you're available 24/7 so you evidently may not have another source of income.

Would you care to provide another explanation for the fact that you do not go for gay men and single men?



Maybe he gets off on being turned down? It's the only thing I can think of that makes sense. I can honestly say I have never met a man who id'd as straight and was willing to let another guy suck his dick.




searching4mysir -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 4:42:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Dude, the first thing that flashed through my mind is that straight and married men are the easiest to blackmail.  Especially since you're available 24/7 so you evidently may not have another source of income.

Would you care to provide another explanation for the fact that you do not go for gay men and single men?



Maybe he gets off on being turned down? It's the only thing I can think of that makes sense. I can honestly say I have never met a man who id'd as straight and was willing to let another guy suck his dick.



Exactly, which is why I asked what kind of (domestic) service he plans to provide, because it sure as hell won't be sexual service if the dom is straight. I even checked his profile (which is exactly what he put here) and all he has listed is kink.

At 60 yrs old is he so delusional that he thinks he can turn a straight dom into one who is either bi or gay?




OohAahMrs -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 5:10:04 AM)

Hey oz, a totally strange request!




ashjor911 -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 5:15:29 AM)

What DS said,
Welcome




M4S73R -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 5:27:02 AM)

I dont really post on these forums anymore, but i couldnt help myself. WTF is up with this dude? RED FLAG RED FLAG




xxblushesxx -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 5:29:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Dude, the first thing that flashed through my mind is that straight and married men are the easiest to blackmail.  Especially since you're available 24/7 so you evidently may not have another source of income.

Would you care to provide another explanation for the fact that you do not go for gay men and single men?



Maybe he gets off on being turned down? It's the only thing I can think of that makes sense. I can honestly say I have never met a man who id'd as straight and was willing to let another guy suck his dick.



Many of the men who call me call themselves "straight" but, fantasize about being whored out to other men.




SorceressJ -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 5:46:12 AM)

If only we lived in a world where straight still meant straight, and no still meant no, and things like that..
OP, I can't really see this bearing any, um, fruit for you, but hey, have fun with the pictures in your head and thanx for the "CM WTF Moment of the Day". We get so many of them here, it's hard to choose, but you're definitely a winner in that regard, hands down.
Here's yer sign: [sm=yeahright.gif]




Ozimandias -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 6:46:10 AM)

Interesting set of responses. First of all, I can definitely appreciate the concern over "outing" or blackmail. That is TOTALLY not my thing. If you read through my message and also read between the lines, you'll see that this is a very narrowly focused "kink" of mine. I have met a great many married men in the past. I totally get that they are crossing a line and depend on my discretion. I never just have someone come right over to play. It involves a great number of emails and telephone conversations before either of us is ready to actually meet. I'll grant you that it doesn't happen very often (which is ok), but when it does, it's a great experience for me and for the other guy. I go to great lengths to make him as comfortable and "at ease" as possible. The "sub" in me goes a long way to help that along.

As far as "what do I do" is concerned, I'm a sub, and not a slave. I am not a domestic sub and, in fact, would never want to live with anyone. I prefer my own solitude. I'm also very active on FETLIFE and seek out potential contacts there as well. I don't expect (and don't want) a large number of people coming to my place.

Bottom line: Please give me a break, you guys! If you have any specific questions or concerns, feel free to send me a PM. I will gladly respond. You may not totally understand where I'm coming from, but then there are a lot of kinks that I don't understand; however, I don't put people down just because it's "not my thing".




GreedyTop -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 6:59:08 AM)

hey, I knew a gay man that had the same kind of prefs as you, Ozi. When it happened, it worked well for him. I wish you luck.




Delilya -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 8:20:17 AM)

good luck




Fornica -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 8:58:11 AM)

Craigslist called, they want you back :)




SorceressJ -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 9:44:38 AM)

OP, for my part, I get that you are just practising your very narrowly focused kink. Fine, to each their own, at any age. I also get that it probably does something for you on a deeper level to be that special catalyst for a male who IDs as straight. Ok, between consenting adults, that's a no-brainer. But when you scope out married men who may have wives and families who would be hurt by the duplicity of yourself and the straying husband who requires your discretion - this means you are hurting non-consenting others that may include offspring; it makes you dishonest and possibly a homewrecker (well GEE, it's not like THAT never happens..), and you have then lost all right to be respected in your freedom of choice, and from most of the people here, will not receive it.

In stretched theory, if I were the spouse of one of your marks and he went with you behind my back, I would 1) question my sanity for ever marrying that person and wonder why I hadn't seen his true character previously; 2) leave him and take him for everything he's worth, and 3) come after you to share my pain in a way that I can promise you would NOT enjoy, regardless of whether or not you're 60.
Yes, I -am- just a bitch like that. I am a grown woman of almost 45 summers, it is my right and I do not apologize. Think what you will, I certainly do.

We all speak our minds from a deep place of internal judgement. For a cognizant adult, this is our prerogative, and we all do it. So do you. Everyone does, whether or not we think ourselves to be the judgemental type, insomuch as we may even try to keep this judging to a minimum in consideration of to each their own. But you cannot expect us to respect your choices when they may involve others to the above extent. Please do not insult our relative intelligences by suggesting that all the spouses of your marks know about and accept what you do with their husbands, because I will call bullshit on you if you do.
This is why I personally will have nothing remotely intimate to do with any married or spoken-for person, because of the inherent issues which almost always come up. Now, if every once in a blue moon or two you run across one whose spouse openly consents to something, then that is a whole different ball of wax, but one I would personally be leery of unless I were theoretically able to speak with that spouse myself to confirm their consent and that no one was being hurt by my actions.





GreedyTop -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 10:00:40 AM)

~FR~

like I said, I knew a gay man that followed the same patterns that the OP has outlined.

there was never an issue.

I suspect it was as much that the straight guys were way more circumspect re: their encounters than a horndog straight guy re: a female may be.




SorceressJ -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 10:06:45 AM)

Exactly, Greedy. This very year, I have had two potentials who it turned out were married and cheating on their wives, althought I wouldn't have known it to listen to them. I now believe no one unless I can confirm in the manner I describe in the last paragraph in my last post. If I am not allowed to speak with the spouse/SO personally, no dice.




DaddySatyr -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 10:12:35 AM)

[sarcasm]Wait a minute! There's people that aren't monogamous? Wow! I'm going to need to do some research on this![/sarcasm]



Peace and comfort,



Michael




SorceressJ -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 10:14:31 AM)

[hijack]Nice hat, Satyr! [:D][/hijack]




DaddySatyr -> RE: San Francisco gay male sub for Str8/Married Men (12/16/2011 10:15:29 AM)

Made for me by a friend.
With the combination of the hat and the look on my face, I think I could get away with: "Merry Fuckin' Christmas. Where's my present?"




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