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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 8:53:14 PM

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However, while the statistics are roughly correct, the greatest, most dramatic result I've ever seen didn't come from commercials against drink-driving. On the contrary, one year saw a drop from roughly 750, to around 380. That's an almost 50% drop in traffic fatalities due to one simple measure.

Speed cameras.

Speed cameras cut the road toll almost in half. I thoroughly encourage their use. More than anything else, the introduction of speed cameras in Victoria has meant there are thousands of people who are still alive who would've died otherwise. Those people who rail against them simply want a license to be irresponsible and their arguments cut no ice with me.

ok... what are the speed limits there? Highway? and in town/city?

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 9:11:14 PM

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I commend to you this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_Australia

It explains it pretty well.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 9:14:33 PM

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Laws vary by state and requiring the option be available is almost undeniably good. Requiring Breathalyzers in every car is much different. Why don't we have two pulse detectors on the steering wheel so people have to keep both hands on it at all times? No more makeup, no more texting, no more fiddling with the radio.

Or... now they can build cars that drive themselves and park themselves.. maybe that is the best solution, huh? Its being tested now...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/10/11/google.testing.cars.mashable/index.html

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 9:22:36 PM

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Thank you Stella.

I found that moving and powerful. It moved me to contact the powerful.

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

I would like to draw your attention to the Australian anti-DUI campaign 20th anniversary television commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b69J_bMoYk&sns

It is 5:22 in length. It gets right down to the point. I think there should be a place for this film on American media.

Rebuttal to the obvious objection : The preservation of the delicate sensibilities of some should take a back seat to the preservation of the delicate hides of others.

Thank you very much for reviewing and considering this very important film.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 9:27:48 PM

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Aww nice one.. Frosted Flake.

And a big thanks to Awareness for giving us the background behind the ads and TAC. I agree that speed cameras are very effective.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 9:41:00 PM

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Aww nice one.. Frosted Flake.

And a big thanks to Awareness for giving us the background behind the ads and TAC. I agree that speed cameras are very effective.

Actually, speed cameras are the worst thing for DUI enforcement.

Get toasted out of your mind, blow thru a speed camera at well over the speed limit and a week later, you get a civil fine (can't make it criminal in the US because of a lil thing called the Constitution).
As you look at the fine notice, you think. "FUCK, I'm glad that was a camera and not a cop"

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 9:47:11 PM

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Speed cameras have nothing to do with DUI. They're to slow people down. Speed is a major contributor to traffic fatalities. Slowing people down cuts fatalities. Period.

I heard of one guy who got caught 26 times in two days, moving house.

He won't be doing that again.

Our DUI approach - aside from the TAC advertisements - is a little different.

First off, any cop can stop any driver at any time and demand a breathalyzer test. Second, we regularly set up road blocks to catch DUI's, particularly on Fridays and Saturdays. Fail a preliminary breathalyzer test and it's off to the booze bus for a blood alcohol reading.

No system is perfect - personally, I'd like to see drunk drivers who kill someone do hard time and be denied the use of a car for the rest of their lives - but we do give it the old college try.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 10:08:09 PM

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It explains it pretty well.

Bullshit. It is up to you to know when you can't drive. I haven't had an at fault accident since 1989. If I do ctually drive after drinking, I know it is bad and I go slow. It seems on some roads going slow is not an option, like the interstates in the US.

If you ever don't have a choice, stay off the highways and keep the speed down.

You really should avoid getting into that predicament but if you do, you remember the saying "speed kills" ? Well it applies in spades now.

Take it from someone who has beat more of these charges than any ten of you have ever faced. I really didn't hurt people though.

And in that I have been lucky. VERY lucky. Skating on the legal charges was cool as fuck - BACK THEN. But now I see that some things could have happened that really, I would have a fucking hard time living with.

You can KILL motherfucker. I know what that is like. DO NOT.

I have been in positions where I about had to drive after drinking, and in fact one of those times was the last time I got busted. But a bunch of other times (over the years) I have pulled over and said to the people in the car "Who is straight enough to drive". I don't like what I am seeing, which means maybe double vision or whatever. I yielded the helm.

But then we have the other thing, that it was banned here because it would hurt their profits off of DUIs.

And that is the way it is. Someone tell Clickheels.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 10:17:05 PM

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Or... now they can build cars that drive themselves and park themselves.. maybe that is the best solution, huh? Its being tested now...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/10/11/google.testing.cars.mashable/index.html

I'm the computer glitch that calls the acceleration subroutine instead of the brake subroutine in your car that drives itself...

Google is developing it, not Microsoft (with their bad track record)!

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 10:20:39 PM

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The glitch ? That figures.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 10:41:02 PM

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Yeah, yeah. For every motherfucker who thinks they're straight and gets away with it, there's another one who kills or injures himself and his friends.

Honestly, the number of people who think they're an exception is truly predictable and it's the same old rants every time. I don't care. Breath test 'em, speed camera 'em, lock 'em up if they fuck up badly enough. Driving a car is a fucking privilege, not a right.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/19/2011 10:59:28 PM

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Bullshit. Create a victim - PAY.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 2:32:38 AM

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That's a powerful video that every driver should see. Odd that it's attributed to MADD when it doesn't appear that it has any affiliation with that group. No mention of the TAC in the comments by the person who actually posted the video. There also doesn't seem to actually be any support that it (well, as we now now have been told - them) was even actually banned in States let alone why. That's only slightly inflammatory. I guess it's one of those internet things. "I read it on the internet - it must be true".

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 2:42:52 AM

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Wow.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 3:24:43 AM

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Hmm...I watched videos even more horrifying in driver's ed over 30 years ago. Blood, guts, incinerated corpses, devastated, weeping relatives. Did it work? No, because until you get caught driving drunk (or worse), it'll Never Happen To Me. Thus, I think technology will be the cure for this still-epidemic cause of death, dismemberment, and brain injury.

One day, pretty soon, I think your car will suggest you get another driver, and not start for your stumbling-down-drunk self. Your car will also refuse to start for your friend, who only had a "few" shots of floor cleaner. Also, in this age that is coming--you can rage 'till you foam at the mouth about it if you want, it's still coming--your credit card, debit card, etc. will talk to you (in the accent of your choice. I prefer Yiddish Mom) and tell you you exactly what you need to hear: "hey, how are you going to pay the bills this month, if you're gonna buy that giant piece-of-shit TV that's only marginally larger than the one you already got?" That's what your card will tell you.

And your car won't let your kids go someplace they're not supposed to, either, without telling on them.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 3:42:27 AM

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lol at Yiddish Mom accent!!

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 5:39:06 AM

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The problem with traffic cameras around here is you get a little municipality that annexes a strip of highway (not the land beside it just the 4-lane) 4-5 miles out of town, drops the speed limit and sticks a traffic camera out there. Next thing you know, they are getting approximately 50% of the city budget from tourists who used to visit this area a lot but will never do it again.
Does it promote traffic safety to have a mile of rural 4-lane with a 45 MPH speed limit instead of 55?
FUCK NO.

Does it line a few people's pockets? Damn right.

For an example, Google Bluff City, TN traffic cam.

I don't like the cameras for 3 reasons.

1. They don't treat everyone alike. Drive a new car with a temp tag, a govt car, dealer tag, tag obscured by snow ot mud. No ticket

2. They allow drunks to get away with drunk driving. Blow thru a cam at 80 MPH at 3 in the morning blasted off your ass and all you get is a $100 fine and gratitude that it wasn't a cop.

3. They take the Mark I, Mod Zero police issue eyeball out of the equation. A vanload of fertilizer and diesel, a carload of stolen goods, a load of drugs, assault victim with attacker behind the wheel, "Amber Alert" victim.................ALL of them get a free pass thru a traffic cam.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 6:40:21 AM

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Damm effective...chilling,heartbreaking and incredibly thought provoking.I am one of the blessed,I spent way too many evenings during my youth acting irresponsible where drinking and driving was concerned....age maturity and parenthood led a long time ago to a mending of my ways...but this reminds me just how lucky I was.....and reaffirms why I no longer mix these two activities.

^^^^This^^^^

I feel damn lucky that I always made it from point A to point B w/no damage to person or property. I drank one night after donating blood and blacked out driving home & ended up so far from home that when I realized where I was even in my state of mind I was amazed that I was still driving on the road and not in a ditch.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 7:05:54 AM

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I think its a powerful commercial as a whole but i think the message about drinking and driving is lost in the horror of the accidents because the cause of those accidents 2 minutes down the line isn't brought up during the showing of the accidents and injuries and deaths and horror. The drinking pretty much all happens in the beginning and with the flashing of so many people, many would lose interest in the commercial long before the message was out -- as commercials don't explain what the commericial is about.

I think it would be a great superbowl commercial if they can tweak it to remind people throughout the 5 minute commercial continuously what caused the horror they are watching when they start showing the very real results of drinking and driving. Not sure if this makes sense.

The US is used to violence, car accidents and such especially in its movies, news and such, so people would be horrified at a commercial like that but forget it's about don't drink and drive as they spend minutes watching it, but i think if they can condense it down to the limit of commercials here and have the message condensed into a WHAM factor, it would be great here because people always have the -- it can't/won't happen to me. Until it does.

It's a great message, just too long to really have the wham factor needed to effect those who don't care and do drink and drive - in my opinion. That commerical is for people who already care, who actively make an effort not to drink and drive, the people who don't care tend to need the messages short and slammed upside their head.

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RE: The Australian commercial that was banned in the St... - 12/20/2011 7:34:05 AM

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It seems to be a mix of quite a few RTA/TAC ads cut together, by themselves they would have been around 90 seconds long. I'm guessing the reason they aren't shown in the US is because it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense to show ads from another country.
Don't get me wrong, the message to not drive under the influence or speed and to stay alert behind the wheel is hugely important. I just feel that the person posting it on YouTube gives the impression that it was banned for being too graphic or something.

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