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Criminal record identity theft? - 12/20/2011 11:25:59 PM   
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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 7:25:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everyone should check their credit report yearly which can be done for free from the site linked from http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/freereports/index.shtml

I suppose people should regularly check their criminal background as well.

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 7:50:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yanno, I think the story was sensationalized and two of the examples failed to take personal responsibility:

Out of work two years, her unemployment benefits exhausted, in danger of losing her apartment, Casey applied for a job in the pharmacy of a Boston drugstore. She was offered $11 an hour. All she had to do was pass a background check.

...A case of mistaken identity landed Casey on the streets without a job or a home.

So what happened with all the other jobs she applied for in the two years she was unemployed?

A year earlier, she had bought a Saab, and the day she drove it off the lot, smoke started pouring from the hood. The dealer charged $291.48 for repairs. When Haynes refused to pay, the dealer filed fraud charges.

Haynes relented and paid after six months. Anyone looking at Haynes' physical file at the courthouse in Montgomery County, Pa., would have seen that the fraud charge had been removed. But it was still listed in the limited information on the court's website.

Bad things happen when one ignores problems rather than dealing with them properly. You can't just ignore bills and hope they will go away. She should have followed up with the dealership, state's consumer protection, BBB, whatever.

Dennis Teague was disappointed when he was rejected for a job at the Wisconsin state fair. He was horrified to learn why: A background check showed a 13-page rap sheet loaded with gun and drug crimes and lengthy prison lockups. But it wasn't his record. A cousin had apparently given Teague's name as his own during an arrest.

I have sympathy for this guy. If I were him I would disclose this to potential employers. What say you employers? Would this suffice?

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 8:34:30 AM   
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I have sympathy for this guy. If I were him I would disclose this to potential employers. What say you employers? Would this suffice?


Not just based on his word. It would need some corroboration.

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 8:39:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know all he has to do is go to the courthouse and have it fixed. It's not that difficult. Then he would have a clean record again.



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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 9:00:41 AM   
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ap-impact-criminal-past-isnt-182335059.html

You could be next.

It doesnt help when the court records themselves are wrong.. I got a speeding ticket a few years ago.. i paid the fine.. After a few weeks i checked the file online and saw that the money i sent had been credited, the balance was $0.. So i did follow up to make sure they got the payment.. the problem was that the court took the money but they left the file as pending (meaning a warrant for my arrest was issued).. I was stopped by a cop about a year ago and i was asked if there were any warrants out against me.. well, cops dont ask a friggin question unless they think they know the answer already.. I was taken aback, as far as i knew there were none but then why did the cops ask (thats something i would think is pretty easy for them to check).. And the cop never told me that there was one, i guess he just thought i was lying or something.. It wasnt until i went to the DMV to get a CA drivers license that i was told i needed to take care of the ticket (the one that had been paid years earlier)... So i called to friggin court and after a few minutes they told me it was a "computer glitch" and that they corrected it.. Great, i could have been thrown in jail for who knows how long and all the crap i would have had to go thru, costs, etc and thats all they had to say??? And how many other people did this same thing happen to, i wonder?

If that shite can happen for just a traffic ticket.. what else goes on???

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 9:19:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		My brother was arrested in south dakota in august of 96... for stealing a minivan in december of 95 and not showing to court.... the person who had stolen it was arrested, bailed out, and didnt show for trial. My brother wasnt in the COUNTRY in December... he'd NEVER go to the dakotas in winter (used to go to sturgis once a year, thats it) and he sure the hell wouldnt steal a minivan when he drives a corvette LOL. The guy who used his name was 5 ft 10, 185 lbs. Bro was 6 ft 6, and almost 300 lbs. I still had to drive 100 miles rt to bond my brother out pending the state straightening it out. It was clear however from the booking photos that these were two different people, and surely the fingerprints showed this! Regardless, they wanted that bond money to let him out... and he had to make a second trip a month later to go to a court date to have it dismissed & corrected! There is no easy way to 'cure' criminal record fraud... and the courts have no sympathy for how much expense the VICTIM in these cases have to spend to correct it.

A guy I know plead down a charge many years ago. Terms were that once probation had been completed they charge would be reduced to a misdemeanor permanently, and legally he wouldnt have to cop to being convicted of a felony, thus allowing him to get.. employment. It was done on their end correctly.  However the state he did probation in (different from the charge location, with approval of court) reports him as having completed FELONY probation when he has a background check done. They REFUSE to comply with terms of the plea agreement he signed with the court that sentenced him to it. He has lost 5 job offers since 2006, because despite him not having a felony on his criminal record, they see felony probation and withdraw the offers...

Generally to fix criminal id theft or erroneous shit you have to go to the jurisdiction that your name was used in, or where the info was fucked up in person, sometimes this means submitting to be fingerprinted, despite never having been charged with a crime, just to have your name cleared... yes.. they do record & KEEP your prints in the database when this happens. So... if you want to clear your name, spend the money to travel to where it occured, go ahead and give your personal data to big brother... and even then, good luck, because that isnt always enough even...

Insanity.




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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 9:22:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tj444

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ap-impact-criminal-past-isnt-182335059.html

You could be next.

It doesnt help when the court records themselves are wrong.. I got a speeding ticket a few years ago.. i paid the fine.. After a few weeks i checked the file online and saw that the money i sent had been credited, the balance was $0.. So i did follow up to make sure they got the payment.. the problem was that the court took the money but they left the file as pending (meaning a warrant for my arrest was issued).. I was stopped by a cop about a year ago and i was asked if there were any warrants out against me.. well, cops dont ask a friggin question unless they think they know the answer already.. I was taken aback, as far as i knew there were none but then why did the cops ask (thats something i would think is pretty easy for them to check).. And the cop never told me that there was one, i guess he just thought i was lying or something.. It wasnt until i went to the DMV to get a CA drivers license that i was told i needed to take care of the ticket (the one that had been paid years earlier)... So i called to friggin court and after a few minutes they told me it was a "computer glitch" and that they corrected it.. Great, i could have been thrown in jail for who knows how long and all the crap i would have had to go thru, costs, etc and thats all they had to say??? And how many other people did this same thing happen to, i wonder?

If that shite can happen for just a traffic ticket.. what else goes on???


The bigger deal is garbage process servers hired by debt collectors. They never actually serve you, so you dont show up for court, you get pulled over for a stop sign violation, and youre in jail for $10.53 that you neglected to pay Verizon when you switched to ATT to get an iPhone.

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 12:19:17 PM   
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The bigger deal is garbage process servers hired by debt collectors. They never actually serve you, so you dont show up for court, you get pulled over for a stop sign violation, and youre in jail for $10.53 that you neglected to pay Verizon when you switched to ATT to get an iPhone.

That shite doesnt happen in Canada.. owing money is merely a civil matter and the debtor has to prove to the court the notice was delivered, but regardless.. if you dont show up then all that happens is that the debtor gets his judgment and can now sieze assets, garnish bank accts, wages, etc.. You can also get a judgment overturned if you werent properly served..

but there is never any friggin warrant issued if you dont appear for a court date on a civil matter.. A lot of what goes on in the US is BS..

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 12:28:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
The bigger deal is garbage process servers hired by debt collectors. They never actually serve you, so you dont show up for court, you get pulled over for a stop sign violation, and youre in jail for $10.53 that you neglected to pay Verizon when you switched to ATT to get an iPhone.

That shite doesnt happen in Canada.. owing money is merely a civil matter and the debtor has to prove to the court the notice was delivered, but regardless.. if you dont show up then all that happens is that the debtor gets his judgment and can now sieze assets, garnish bank accts, wages, etc.. You can also get a judgment overturned if you werent properly served..

but there is never any friggin warrant issued if you dont appear for a court date on a civil matter.. A lot of what goes on in the US is BS..


Its state by state here. "Proof" of service has to be given here too...the proof is a perjury statement by the server. Good luck in a "his word against mine" argument!

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RE: Criminal record identity theft? - 12/21/2011 2:31:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		the county courthouse I worked in PA, proof of service was done by a copy of the service being filed with our office by the sheriff's office. I used to enter hundreds of those a day into our computer system. The judge would look in our system before court and if he didn't see a pos he rescheduled the case until it was served. And service could be done in numerous ways...usually served to the person or someone over the age of 16 at the house...could be absolutely anyone and if they couldn't do that then they sent it by certified and regular mail.



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