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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 1:58:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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You do realize that Fox & Friends is a talk show, and not the news - right?


Then they should not bill themselves thusly, nor be on Fox News:

Fox & Friends on Fox New Channel - follow Gretchen Carlson, Steve Doocy, and Brian Kilmeade Weekdays from 6AM to 9AM ET as they report on famous faces, health, heroes, legal issues and news you can use.


Are you going to hold MSNBC to the same standard?



mnottertail -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 1:58:50 PM)

You had better read up on that, cuz you are absolutely clueless and wholly wrong on that as usual, falsification is the method used by opposing counsel to destroy an opinion argument. (oh, the shit you brought up as a defense).


The example:
You say all geese are white, I gotta prove one is black, your fucked and you pay.

Well not you wilbur, you dont pay...still waiting on my Rosie O'Donnell money.  

So, grab a book and try to learn a little something while you are laying around peddling insurance.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 1:59:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

The hosts of Fox and Friends are a bunch of twats. Saw this today:

[image]http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388282_10151076322085161_656940160_22039739_2068973887_n.jpg[/image]


Which has what, exactly, to do with the hosts? I never realized they do the graphics too.



Hillwilliam -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:01:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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You do realize that Fox & Friends is a talk show, and not the news - right?


Then they should not bill themselves thusly, nor be on Fox News:

Fox & Friends on Fox New Channel - follow Gretchen Carlson, Steve Doocy, and Brian Kilmeade Weekdays from 6AM to 9AM ET as they report on famous faces, health, heroes, legal issues and news you can use.


Are you going to hold MSNBC to the same standard?

I do. They're a bunch of biased propagandizing idiots as well.



mnottertail -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:01:34 PM)

The point being that the graphics people are less ignorant than the hosts, and so those hosts are working from a real minimal baseline that they are unable to overcome.

The graphics guys didn't come in a close second on the lies.  DUCY?



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:02:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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You do realize that Fox & Friends is a talk show, and not the news - right?


Then they should not bill themselves thusly, nor be on Fox News:

Fox & Friends on Fox New Channel - follow Gretchen Carlson, Steve Doocy, and Brian Kilmeade Weekdays from 6AM to 9AM ET as they report on famous faces, health, heroes, legal issues and news you can use.


Are you going to hold MSNBC to the same standard?

I do. They're a bunch of biased idiots as well.


I was referring to her contention that an opinion show shouldnt be on a news network.



mnottertail -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:06:11 PM)

And it isn't on a news network. It is on a low brow happy as a clam to be ignorant and pander to less than stellar minds entertainment network.  You guys have been preaching this shit to us for years.  We believe you.



kalikshama -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:07:39 PM)

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Are you going to hold MSNBC to the same standard?


When I used to watch MSNBC I wasn't aware of the blatant misinformation. Perhaps you will be so kind as to point out the same pattern of consistent misinformation and "mistakes" in graphics that I frequently hear about from Fox.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:08:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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Are you going to hold MSNBC to the same standard?


When I used to watch MSNBC I wasn't aware of the blatant misinformation. Perhaps you will be so kind as to point out the same pattern of consistent misinformation and "mistakes" in graphics that I frequently hear about from Fox.


Youre joking right? 5 minutes of the Ed Show or Rachel Maddow have more misinformation than a week of Fox.


"MSNBC said its report was “irresponsible and incendiary” and “showed an appalling lack of judgment.” (Watch Chris Matthews deliver the apology.) .

Fired Keith Oleblowhard for his lies.

Fired Cenk "Young Jerks" Uygur for his lies.

Suspends Mr. Ed. Suspends Mark Halperin.



Lucylastic -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:10:54 PM)

got some proof there wilbur?
nah didnt think so
syaing it, doesnt makeit fact



Politesub53 -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:12:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

You apparently dont know the difference between opinion and fact. Opinions can never be falsified.



"Every man has a right to be wrong in his opinions. But no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

Bernie B



Lucylastic -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:22:49 PM)

Huffpost gives some media a story on this years "flubs"
Including, Chuck Todd, Mark Halperin, David Gregory, Katie Couric, Ed Schultz, Al Sharpton, Fox, Annie Stensrud. and more
with pictures and stories, yanno for a bit of "balance"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/22/biggest-media-gaffes-of-2_n_1166115.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003#s569508&title=Is_This_Anchor



mnottertail -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 2:27:20 PM)

Oh, yeah, that fuckin' hard right wing rag.



Sanity -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 3:13:21 PM)


Your opinion of my opinion and five bucks might get you a cup of Seattles Best

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

They can be shown for what they are tho




Lucylastic -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 3:17:02 PM)

when it involves facts, you lose out every time.
as shown by your answer



mnottertail -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 3:20:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your opinion of my opinion and five bucks might get you a cup of Seattles Best

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

They can be shown for what they are tho




Then her opinion is revenue neutral by your own words,   and yours a taxation on the honest and the thoughtful, making her a conservative and you a socialist.



Lucylastic -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 3:24:13 PM)

plus I wouldnt touch starbucks with a barge pole.



Moonhead -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 3:26:02 PM)

[img]http://www.about-personal-growth.com/image-files/unique.jpg[/img]



MrRodgers -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 4:04:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Kens point is that we need a Dear Leader type to declare all political speech and news and information thats in any way oppositional to the far lefts insanity declared lies and then outlawed

"All hail the state"

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I thought we were about overdue for another leftists vs. free speech thread [:D]

(You do realize that Fox & Friends is a talk show, and not the news - right?)


Do you know there is a long established exception to free speech if you're telling lies? If not you might try brushing up on defamation law.


And expressing an opinion is a defense against defamation, so whats your point?


WELL..."Let's just say" ok ? Let's just SAY Prescott Bush DID ghost write Mein Kampf. What would that mean and why didn't the mainstream press touch that with a 10 foot pole ?

Wouldn't that mean both of his president-sons well...just had to be American Nazis ?



tweakabelle -> RE: Fox & Friends: Fox News' Top Misinformer Of 2011 (12/22/2011 4:49:59 PM)

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Kens point is that we need a Dear Leader type to declare all political speech and news and information thats in any way oppositional to the far lefts insanity declare lies and then outlawed


I'm still waiting for a scintilla of evidence to support this claim. Sadly I don't expect I'll ever see any evidence.

Thus far in the thread, a lot of claims from a certain quarter, a lot of hot air, a lot of waffle, a lot of hysterical wails but not a shred of evidence to back up any of these astronomical claims. Thus far, we haven't seen any reason to believe any evidence exists.

It mirrors the "news"(sic) in Faux Nuze in that respect - flavoured by a long standing, untreated, rampant allergy to facts.



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