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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"The miracle, to put it bluntly, was that in a matter of seven days, we went from organ donation to rehab. What a roller coaster it was."

The guy made this up then ?

Actually I think people should be able to sell organs. I'm serious, the people who install them make all kinds of money, how about a couple ten grand for the family ? Place bids on kidneys, about fifty grand a pound for bone marrow. I'm really not kidding here. Those things you can sell while alive, and the bone marrow deal hurts like hell I hear.

But then the best tissue matches are from family, so I guess it's all what kind of family you are in. You fly in a set of lungs from a prison in China, you are going to be on immunosuppresive drugs forever. Which actually accomplishes the mention of the fact that organs are already sold. It's not legal of course, I think, but almost anywhere in the world money is more important than law.

Take an average transplant. Say fifty grand to take it out and a hundred grand to put it in. Then ongoing care for life, which should make insurance actuaries piss their pants. All this money gets made and the person who makes it possible doesn't get shit. This may seem crass and of course politically incorrect, but I think it's not fucking fair to the donor or their family. They should get a cut.

Notice I did edit though, touche' for catching me pre edit. You get two points.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

(Schmid's mother said no one "specifically" asked if her son would be a donor, but they "subtly talk to you about quality of life." )

Irresponsible journalism at its finest and, unfortunately, the American public seems to have eaten it up hook line and sinker.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

(Schmid's mother said no one "specifically" asked if her son would be a donor, but they "subtly talk to you about quality of life." )

Irresponsible journalism at its finest and, unfortunately, the American public seems to have eaten it up hook line and sinker.

Unmitigated bullshit. You do not and medicos do not discuss even 'quality-of-life' with a patient with no stipulation on record and not unless they thought they had a possible vegetative 'state-of-living' result on their minds. That means discussion about a person that is really brain dead.

How is this irresponsible journalism when you rely upon the same reporting to try and make the point ? In fact, it is as likely that he had no insurance and they didn't think medicaid or mom & dad could handle another 100 grand...so...let us recoup some $$ on his vitals hey mom & dad...waddya think ?

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My doctor and nurses discuss my quality of life with me all the time. What those doctors etc. were telling that family was that a brain injury can result in a range of conditions and they needed to prepare themselves for what would be, at best, an extremely long and unpleasant road ahead.

There could be no discussion of organ donation until a diagnosis of brain death was made which was what the MRI was for that revealed he was recovering.

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But you see there is a profit out there but only for the greedy capitalist scum...out there. They buy laws that prohibit the sale of organs so they can charge say $100,000 for the surgery itself.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

It's too confusing.

The mother says:

Schmid's mother said no one "specifically" asked if her son would be a donor, but they "subtly talk to you about quality of life."

The brother says:

"It seems like we were being led down a path to plan for the worst and that things were not going to work out," said John Schmid. "The miracle, to put it bluntly, was that in a matter of seven days, we went from organ donation to rehab. What a roller coaster it was."

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Flat out, these doctors diagnosed this man incorrectly and were about to cut him up 'for sale.'

Brain dead and woke up 'from a coma ?' If he was brain dead, he was not in a coma. If he was in a coma, he was not brain dead.

"For days Schmid didn't seem to be responding, but what puzzled his doctor was that he did not see fatal injuries on the MRI scan."

"But he didn't have a blood clot in the most vital part of his brain, which we know he can't recover from. And he didn't have a massive stroke that would predict no chance of a useful existence."

These doctors better go back to class for medical analysis and diagnosis.

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