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LookieNoNookie -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:09:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Your relationship is only three months old, so before any answers can be brought forth, there are these questions:

First, is this a committed relationship? Or is it just casual dating? Has she flat out lied by saying she's not seeing anyone else?


Yeah, but you know....no one here....man or woman has asked the MOST important question:

Does she have really gargantuan titties?

(I mean, that's really kind of germaine I should think).




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:10:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444

How exactly do you know this? exactly how reliable is the source? If the other Dom is the source, how do you know he is telling the truth, perhaps he has been trying to steal her away from you and telling you a lie.. Imo, you need it verified (like seeing them meeting and kissing or something more credible like that)..


Yeah but...if she has has REALLY big titties.....that's kind of beside the point isn't it?




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:12:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

You ask a room full of strangers our thoughts on your relationship,
but instead of sticking around for further discussion, you decide to
blast her supposed infidelity on your journal. Go you!

Funny thing is, my advice would have been to have this discussion with her as opposed
to us kinky strangers, but it seems communication isn't your best asset.



Well, excellent point but....then there is that whole really big titty thing again.

(I mean, it is kind of pertinent).




FantasyKisses -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:14:38 PM)

Wow.... apparently I had replied to this in the wrong forum, not that he's monitoring either forum he created....

So I had to check out the journal.... WOW guy.... really. My first question to you would be, what makes you think you're dominant or suited to this Life? No offense, but until you get control over yourself, you cannot hope to take the power and control of someone else. (This also applies to submissives as well...)

Secondly, this may be something in real time. One sub was listed as being in his state, which would make it easier to bust someone for infidelity. But instead of taking a moment and belting your unhappiness out in several ugly sentences on your journal, why not do something proactive to help the other Dom and to teach her a lesson? Set her up, as has been suggested, with a dinner where HE either comes 20 minutes earlier or later and surprises her. Send him copies of any exchange that's been particularly intimate between you two in IM or over mail.

Either way, get a hold of yourself Sir and either do yourself or at least your professed station of being a dominant some honor by holding your wounded pride and anger in check. It's unbecoming.


(Post Edit: And I said that after ending a live in relationship of three years due to my ex's infidelity..... So I say nothing to you that I haven't done or been through.)







LookieNoNookie -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:18:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FantasyKisses

Wow.... apparently I had replied to this in the wrong forum, not that he's monitoring either forum he created....

So I had to check out the journal.... WOW guy.... really. My first question to you would be, what makes you think you're dominant or suited to this Life? No offense, but until you get control over yourself, you cannot hope to take the power and control of someone else. (This also applies to submissives as well...)

Secondly, this may be something in real time. One sub was listed as being in his state, which would make it easier to bust someone for infidelity. But instead of taking a moment and belting your unhappiness out in several ugly sentences on your journal, why not do something proactive to help the other Dom and to teach her a lesson? Set her up, as has been suggested, with a dinner where HE either comes 20 minutes earlier or later and surprises her. Send him copies of any exchange that's been particularly intimate between you two in IM or over mail.

Either way, get a hold of yourself Sir and either do yourself or at least your professed station of being a dominant some honor by holding your wounded pride and anger in check. It's unbecoming.


(Post Edit: And I said that after ending a live in relationship of three years due to my ex's infidelity..... So I say nothing to you that I haven't done or been through.)



I can't disagree with anything in this post.

(However...if she's got extremely large titties.........).




FantasyKisses -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:19:09 PM)

quote:

LookieNoNookie


Are 44-DDs big enough? LMAO!!!




tj444 -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:23:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444

How exactly do you know this? exactly how reliable is the source? If the other Dom is the source, how do you know he is telling the truth, perhaps he has been trying to steal her away from you and telling you a lie.. Imo, you need it verified (like seeing them meeting and kissing or something more credible like that)..


Yeah but...if she has has REALLY big titties.....that's kind of beside the point isn't it?

ummmm... why is it that a certain episode of CSI flashes thru my mind.. the one where the guy dies cuz the very cubby girl (with REALLY big titties) falls asleep on top of him and smothers him to death.. [&:]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:31:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444

How exactly do you know this? exactly how reliable is the source? If the other Dom is the source, how do you know he is telling the truth, perhaps he has been trying to steal her away from you and telling you a lie.. Imo, you need it verified (like seeing them meeting and kissing or something more credible like that)..


Yeah but...if she has has REALLY big titties.....that's kind of beside the point isn't it?

ummmm... why is it that a certain episode of CSI flashes thru my mind.. the one where the guy dies cuz the very cubby girl (with REALLY big titties) falls asleep on top of him and smothers him to death.. [&:]


Death by titty.

I would sacrifice myself for mankind (but.....I'm a giver).




FantasyKisses -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 7:36:32 PM)

Hell, I was just hoping to find someone to carry these things for awhile. I don't want to know what's done with them, just give 'em back washed and unmarred when I need them...




RexDarcy -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 9:31:02 PM)

Give them back unmarred? What fun would that be? [:D]




FantasyKisses -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (12/31/2011 9:35:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RexDarcy

Give them back unmarred? What fun would that be? [:D]


Yes, but if I actually find One to serve, He might be a bit upset that they're so used...

I have enough qualifiers thank you, and I thought the loan was generous! lmao! And happy new year Sir!




ericdaddy -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 6:40:56 AM)

quote:

RE: Dishonest

Thanks to all who took the time to reply...I apologize for the delay but I was busy getting ready for NYE fun. First, I was not whining about this situation as was suggested. I had already confronted her BEFORE posting to the site. I was looking for insight from this community on the situation. That's it. And yes it was a real relationship (not cyber) and yes I verified it the other dom knows.

I have moved on he will deal with her however. As far as I am concerned she is figuratively curbside trash awaiting pickup and on her way to the landfill.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!




DesFIP -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 8:09:23 AM)

Thoughts:
It's online only at which point she owes you nothing.
You've met but haven't discussed exclusivity, in which case she owes you nothing.
The other guy wants to be with her, but isn't and is too delusional to realize she's moved on.

Talk to her. For all you know, you're assuming she's with this other guy who she met once a year ago yet he has his profile stating he owns her when he doesn't.

But op, if you aren't able to call her up and say "what the hell does this mean?" then you don't have the necessary interpersonal skills to make a relationship work. Protocols, rules and punishments are not a substitute for effective relationship skills including but not limited to communication. Go learn them before your next train wreck.




OsideGirl -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 8:11:44 AM)

According to an email he sent me, he says it was a committed relationship.

So, other than the journal entry, he's done pretty much what I would have advised. Although, I would have also confronted her to find out why.




Higuysitsme -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 9:28:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wantstocontrolu

Does she know that you know?

Does the other "dom" know?

Be creative, invite her over, have her strip and cuff her. Take her for a ride and kick her to the curb. (literally)


That is very naughty! I rather like it!!




tazzygirl -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 10:06:32 AM)

That is very illegal.




tj444 -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 11:08:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ericdaddy
I have moved on he will deal with her however. As far as I am concerned she is figuratively curbside trash awaiting pickup and on her way to the landfill.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

I see.. I was betrayed once also, its not something that is forgiveable to me either...

So it is her loss.. history repeats itself usually.. so the new Dom might find himself on the recieving end at some point also.. you are well rid of her..




Killerangel -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 11:27:41 AM)

Hey sorry about your experience, that sucks. I'd have just gotten rid of her too, doesn't seem like there's much to save and it's great you found out relatively early on. I mean if she was dishonest in the beginning when everything is lovey dovey and people are striving to please, then you were sure to be toast later on down the line. 




FantasyKisses -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 12:24:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Thoughts:
It's online only at which point she owes you nothing.
You've met but haven't discussed exclusivity, in which case she owes you nothing.
The other guy wants to be with her, but isn't and is too delusional to realize she's moved on.

Talk to her. For all you know, you're assuming she's with this other guy who she met once a year ago yet he has his profile stating he owns her when he doesn't.

But op, if you aren't able to call her up and say "what the hell does this mean?" then you don't have the necessary interpersonal skills to make a relationship work. Protocols, rules and punishments are not a substitute for effective relationship skills including but not limited to communication. Go learn them before your next train wreck.




I'm sorry, but I have to inherently disagree with this--if you cannot conduct yourself online as you do in the 'real' world, then you have no business being online and certainly not in the Life.

I have a problem when people think that hitting the magic power button gives them free reign to screw with people or to hide and live vicariously through characters they create. If you have no honor here, you have no honor in the mundane world and you have no honor period.

Any obligation entered into online--for instance, if the Gentleman I'm presently speaking to (who lives out of state--I'm in college) and I progress to a committed level, I am honor bound to uphold that commitment regardless of where I am or what I'm doing. Online, offline, sideways. It doesn't matter.

The problem becomes thusly when you have people who run around claiming Lifestyle experience who haven't even tried it outside of a screen or haven't been introduced to the D/s philosophy. How many people have you met that claim to be Masters or Doms that are actually Tops and in it for the sex? Same thing with bottoms--yet people aren't learning those terms that were set up by our community E/elders to help us define such things for safety purposes... And that is a problem. And that is dangerous--not just physically and for the obvious reasons, but emotionally.

Neither side of our dark coin should be attached to a power button--there shouldn't be an 'Off' switch. You are or you aren't. You're either honest and upfront, or you aren't. You're either real or you're not. I broke no difference and make no excuses for people just because it's trendy. And the idea also that collars are something disposable is another side effect of 'net thinking--one that's turning toward the real scenes out there. Such as with this case. In Maine, people, partners and collars are passed back and forth like bags of M&Ms at chocoholic conventions and no one seems to mind or notice...

I have a problem with that--from the STD aspect to .... aren't collars supposed to be the most sacred rite of our culture? Our darker and more committed version of the mainstream ring ceremony? Built on trust and faith and honesty? Every real time ceremony I've seen mentions those things. So why should the 'net allow for the tarnishing of such a thing?

And yes, I realize I adhere to the spiritual aspects of D/s and M/s more than the physical. And that some of it may indeed be idealistic, but ....

Eric, Sir, I say she did you a favor Sir. I don't agree with the way she did it, you seem like a nice Gentleman (we've been speaking through PM), but imagine how much worse it would be in six months, a year, three years, so on. Let the faithless harlot go and move on Sir. You don't need a pariah attached to your hip and are truly better off.




FantasyKisses -> RE: Dishonest Submissive (1/1/2012 12:26:02 PM)

There, now I feel better.... this was nagging me in the back of my skull and within my heart. lol!




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