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coyotehunting -> an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 8:10:01 AM)

i got to looking at my emails, and apart from the obvious scammers, almost every single would-be slave has no parents or living siblings.

now i find that just strange.

i probably know over 100,000 people through my work and travel, and of that number, apart from people in my age group, 50+, precious few have no living parents or siblings, (making adjustments for only child people i have met)

does anyone else find it strange that so many would-be slaves are orphans?




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 8:23:22 AM)

Ummmmm.. funny I've not noticed this trend and I've perved out a lot of profiles on here. LOL




poise -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 8:47:31 AM)

I find it refreshing to know that you are getting such an abundance of emails from random women
in your short time as a member of this site, that you could come to make this conclusion.
It's often a complaint here that no one writes to them.

While I'm not a would-be slave, and I've yet to write you, I do have 8 brothers and sisters.
I'm sure I'm not the exception, and that there are many others here that have surviving relatives,
they just haven't found your profile yet. [:)]

Welcome to the forums, and happy new year to you.




LaTigresse -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 8:48:34 AM)

I don't scroll through a lot of profiles, just see the ones that pop up on my home screen when I log in for email. However, I do see a lot of that there, and in the profiles of the twits that email me.

I often ask about their relationships with family fairly early on. If they cannot, in a generic way, talk about other relationships in their lives......I tend to ignore them rather quickly.




Higuysitsme -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 9:06:45 AM)

I suppose I'm an orphan now; but a lot are by the time you get to my age. Maybe he likes elderly slaves?!




Ninebelowzero -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 9:10:32 AM)

Some of us didn't know who our father was. I am that bastard!




stellauk -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 9:21:39 AM)

No. But being honest I find looking at someone you don't know as a 'would be' slave is rather odd.

I just see people, irrespective of what is written in the top right hand corner of their profile.




lazarus1983 -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 9:30:42 AM)

While I'm not a would be slave, the only relationship I have with anyone in my family is my grandmother. I never had a dad, and my mother is the lowest form of parasite, the kind that holds up her need as a virtue. She expects to be taken care of by others simply because they can, and she likes to think she can't. Therefore she is not a part of my life. The rest of my family, I was just never close with. Maybe because I'm adopted, maybe not. They're out there, various cousins, uncles, aunts, etc. etc. etc. But I never had a need to know them and be close with them before, and I don't now.





mummyman321 -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 10:15:34 AM)

OP
I find it really weird that all your emails instantly tell their life story of having no siblings or living parents. Very very strange indeed.




Duskypearls -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 10:18:00 AM)

Interesting observation, Coyote, and I'll offer my two cents worth. As times become more trying, families become more fractured. Perhaps those of us within those fractured family units who received more fracturing than other family members, may have needed to create more of a safe emotional/geographical distance between us, and the offending parties. Many have been unable to create/maintain loving, healthy, interactive relationships, and find the distancing an effective buffer.

BTW fellow, loved your profile, the stunningly beautiful snowy pic, and your alignment with, and allegiance towards the natural world. Pity you're looking for a slave, and not a playful, resourceful, witty, funny, good-hearted sub like myself, who tends not to thrive in cities, but blossoms out in the real, natural world. Ah well...




Rochsub2009 -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 10:21:31 AM)

Perhaps I missed something, but I don't remember seeing the section of the profile that asks about siblings or parents.  Hmmmmmm, I guess I'll have to go back and see what I've obviously overlooked.




MissImmortalPain -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 10:59:34 AM)

I don't view profiles here unless given a very good reason to do so. But, having said, that irl I have noticed that most every submissive man I know has come from a home that either lacked a mother, lost a mother early on in life, or had a very controlling mother. None of which shock me as to why said person might seek out a dominant woman. Most of the submissive men I know do have siblings though, and are rarely first born children. As for the use of the word "slave" on this web site, and others like it, I find that people often have a habit of saying they have no family because it makes it seem as if they could totally belong to someone without anyone else caring where they went or what happened to them. I for the most part view it only as a poly for attention.




Killerangel -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 11:12:41 AM)

Actually MIP, that's a very good point about someone making it seem like they're totally alone in the world and able to go anywhere without ties and so listing themselves without relatives. I wonder if these aren't scammer profiles as well, just not the real obvious ones because it doesn't seem possible does it that there are so many rootless people around...?




littlewonder -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 11:25:55 AM)

I don't see what difference it is if you have living parents or siblings. I have one parent alive and many brothers and sisters but I don't interact with them on a daily basis, haven't lived near them since I was 18 and I move when and wherever I want without involving my family. They play very little role in my life.

Plus I never ever see profile or get emails from people even mentioning their family family life right off the bat. If they did I would find that extremely creepy and would immediately delete their email.





Fornica -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 12:14:38 PM)

I'm with you. Why on earth would that even be mentioned?
quote:

ORIGINAL: mummyman321

OP
I find it really weird that all your emails instantly tell their life story of having no siblings or living parents. Very very strange indeed.





Killerangel -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 1:37:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fornica

I'm with you. Why on earth would that even be mentioned?
quote:

ORIGINAL: mummyman321

OP
I find it really weird that all your emails instantly tell their life story of having no siblings or living parents. Very very strange indeed.




I think because they're scammers, just not the immediately obvious ones. People looking out for the 'transportation fees' or whatever - however they are getting money out of someone.




RumpusParable -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 2:39:33 PM)

This is something I've never once ran into yet.




fragilepieces -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 2:57:14 PM)

~FR


OP are you thinking they may have driven their parents/siblings to early graves with their slaveness?




Melkesjokolade -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 5:15:16 PM)

I'm also thinking they might be scammers.
No living family makes it easy for them to "move" and they dont have to report home every so often in fear of being reported missing.
This might be very interesting to an extreme sado master, and if theyre stupid to boot, they might want to send money to the slave in order to get them over.

I honestly thought no one ever fell for those, that no one would ever send money to someone theyve never met to get them to move...but from reading on Fetlife, people actually do this. I was surprised by that =D




Casteele -> RE: an obervation, anyone else seeing this (1/1/2012 7:19:23 PM)

Off topic but related to the postings..  Take a class on how to run a scam.. Yes, they really exist, mainly to teach people how not to get scammed, but I've also seen ones which the scammer simply wants to "sell" their experience to make some legitimate money for a change :-P

Anyhow, it's amazing to me at times what should be common sense.. One of the first things a scammer tries to do is suspend your disbelief by telling you what you most desperately want to hear. So desperately that you'll literally scam yourself in to believing it's real and genuine. Perhaps what isn't so common sense though, is figuring out what the target wants to hear.. As someone else pointed out above, the "no family ties" to hold them back is a very subtle thing indeed. It's almost an unconscious thing many of us want to hear that we do not often think about. "Oh my gosh," you think, "they are free to drop everything and come here to be with me! I don't have to make any effort or work to figure out how to deal with my obligations and responsibilities; Just sit back and let them jump in to my lap!" Once that disbelief is suspended and you've already convinced yourself it must be real, the rest is easy for the scammer because you'll be doing all the work to convince yourself--people HATE making mistakes so much that they'll blindly hold on to a blatant lie in the face of clear facts just so they don't have to admit that they made a mistake.

So kind of back on topic.. Is this what so many of those profiles are/do? I don't know, as I haven't looked at many of those kind of profiles, nor have I corresponded with them. Is there anything else that stands out in their profiles? Are there common errors, such as listing "Alabama, New Jersey" as their city and state? Inconsistencies, such as claiming to be an Asian but having a bunch of self-pics which are all clearly Caucasian, blond hair, blue eyes? Not all of them are obvious.. I've seen many profiles which claim one thing at one point, then later on, say or write things later on which contradicts what was said earlier, or even self-contradicting statements. Examples include profiles which go like "U must B able 2 rite more'n 1 sentence n discuss inteligantly," or write at length about how open-minded and accepting they are, then have a long list of do's and don'ts, and strict/absolute qualifications. Do any of these profiles show any signs of that kind of stuff as well?

Also note that I see no difference here between scammers--people who try to con you out of money or what-not, and fakes--people who try to pretend to be something they are not in hopes of getting you to invest your time and energy in them, whether it's an intentional fake (game players) or otherwise (people who just think they're all that but really aren't).




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