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Musicmystery -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/4/2012 3:25:45 PM)
You know what? I don't care if the lot of them go nasty. ...if they would just fucking do something.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:36:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Since he didn't proffer that, it would be rather ignominious to ask him to prove what he didn't say, wouldn't it? Ok. Since it's not pertinent then, why did he bring it up? Firm

mnottertail -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:44:11 AM)
You take many bridges too far. You think its not pertinent? (cuz I said nothing close to that) Why is it that you do not think it is pertinent that the hateful rhetoric and actions might cause some nutters to dive for the deep end? Hell, we got people here keyboard threatening every day..... Again, he did not say that Gabbys shooting was prima facie, prime mover cause and effect from Palins poster of gunscopes on people. So, in what way would you have him prove that to be the case, or are you asking him to prove he didn't say that. Cleaner solution, you prove he said it. Should be a clip and paste, right?

FirmhandKY -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:47:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail You take many bridges too far. You think its not pertinent? (cuz I said nothing close to that) Why is it that you do not think it is pertinent that the hateful rhetoric and actions might cause some nutters to dive for the deep end? Hell, we got people here keyboard threatening every day..... Again, he did not say that Gabbys shooting was prima facie, prime mover cause and effect from Palins poster of gunscopes on people. So, in what way would you have him prove that to be the case, or are you asking him to prove he didn't say that. Cleaner solution, you prove he said it. Should be a clip and paste, right? I'm not the one who brought it up. He is the one who should explain why it is pertinent. I think it seems to be a comment on Palin's responsibility for the Gabby Gifford shooting. If so, then what is the link? There isn't one, I don't think, but it was an attempt to just throw crap up on the wall. You know it, and I know it. Firm

Moonhead -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:51:46 AM)
It was actually a comment on there being much nastier things said since the last election than any of teh Kenyan's rhetoric, with which Sanity has such serious issues. (I don't feel Barbie was responsible for the Gifford shooting, though given that she pulled the hitlist off her site afterwards, it's quite possible that she does.)

mnottertail -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 8:02:20 AM)
I guess he could if he wanted it, I explained how it was pertinent to me, in this discussion. He may have a different reason why he thinks its pertinant. But as far as shit sticking to the wall, I think the bulk of that comes from the cadre of the few the proud the factless teabaggers.

Sanity -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 9:01:11 AM)
It was Obama who sermonized about the need for a new tone, after the Giffords shooting After Palins maps became the target of the very far left propaganda that you are furthering Apparently he (and you) believe that everyone but he had ought to practice what he preaches? quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead It was actually a comment on there being much nastier things said since the last election than any of teh Kenyan's rhetoric, with which Sanity has such serious issues. (I don't feel Barbie was responsible for the Gifford shooting, though given that she pulled the hitlist off her site afterwards, it's quite possible that she does.)

Owner59 -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 9:52:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail You take many bridges too far. You think its not pertinent? (cuz I said nothing close to that) Why is it that you do not think it is pertinent that the hateful rhetoric and actions might cause some nutters to dive for the deep end? Hell, we got people here keyboard threatening every day..... Again, he did not say that Gabbys shooting was prima facie, prime mover cause and effect from Palins poster of gunscopes on people. So, in what way would you have him prove that to be the case, or are you asking him to prove he didn't say that. Cleaner solution, you prove he said it. Should be a clip and paste, right? I'm not the one who brought it up. He is the one who should explain why it is pertinent. I think it seems to be a comment on Palin's responsibility for the Gabby Gifford shooting. If so, then what is the link? There isn't one, I don't think, but it was an attempt to just throw crap up on the wall. You know it, and I know it. Firm But you`re arguing it so now you own it. Oh,those are the new rules now.You only have to repeat the words......no context necessary...... http://www.thenewscollective.org/display-related-news.php?itemHeadline=Team+Romney+Spins+Obama%E2%80%99s+Words+in+First+Ad I have a question.... Why did Palin act so defensively if she didn`t feel guilty about it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIeTlLNunQU And we haven`t heard the violent rhetoric since. Coincidence?

Moonhead -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 11:11:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Apparently he (and you) believe that everyone but he had ought to practice what he preaches? Not quite. I just don't see any earthly reason why he should be expected to continue doing so unilaterally if his colleagues across the aisle have no intention of joining in. A fair chunk of the Republican party had no interest in adopting a more respectful tone (whatever MM says), so the Kenyan's perfectly justified in abandoning the attempt to play nice with the other kids if the other kids are hellbent on continuing to act like a bratty shower of cunts.

imperatrixx -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 1:32:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You have played that one out. Try a new line, it might get you somewhere. Talk about pushing the fear factor... .lol Obama just signed a law that allows for indefinite detention of US citizens outside of due process. He absolutely does not have my vote, I'm not scared of socialism or terrorism but I'm damn scared of fascism and the 'hope and change' I want isn't what he has to offer.

Sanity -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 3:54:59 PM)
As if Obama was ever serious about toning down his hateful rhetoric [sm=biggrin.gif] http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3834544 http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3861029 http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3792861 quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Not quite. I just don't see any earthly reason why he should be expected to continue doing so unilaterally if his colleagues across the aisle have no intention of joining in. A fair chunk of the Republican party had no interest in adopting a more respectful tone (whatever MM says), so the Kenyan's perfectly justified in abandoning the attempt to play nice with the other kids if the other kids are hellbent on continuing to act like a bratty shower of cunts.

Lucylastic -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 4:59:51 PM)
1. That was hoffa not Obama 2. Using "cripple america" isnt violent or hateful...... and saying blacks need to get their marching shoes on is neither violent or hateful 3. Not one of them was the Presidents , so you simply dont have the facts in your court to twist Obama didnt say those things, this is your post trying to contend that he is responsible for anyone who dare call TP and republicans names. YOU did however take the hoffa comment to heart didnt you. pot kettle

thishereboi -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 5:22:25 PM)
quote: More of your partisan bullshit. I am not the one who starts thread after thread demonizing the other side, but you don't seem to ever see it when it comes from the left. Maybe you just assume everyone else is partisan because you are.

tazzygirl -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 5:46:33 PM)
Hmmm.. yet I am the one who has taken fargle to task for the tone of some of his threads. I have also made more than one post against a "leftist" as you call them for how the address Bush (shrub was the term used). You are barking up the wrong tree. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3973737 Simply because I know you will demand to see it. [8\|]

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:04:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead ...demonstrate an example of teh Kenyan's "divisive, hateful rhetoric" Quotes from the Violent Liberal Left... Barack Obama: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html "We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends" http://www.wnd.com/2010/10/220165/ "Punch back twice as hard" http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html "I will be happy to see the Republicans test whether or not I'm itching for a fight " http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-vows-to-fight-republicans----next-year/1 New Black Panther: "You gotta kill some crackas. Kill they babies" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLWmo2kCa8o New York City Councilman, Charles Barron: "I want to go up to the closest white person and say 'You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Barron#Reparations_for_slavery James Cameron: "I believe in ecoterrorism." http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/2010/01/16/cameron-hearts-eco-terrorism/ Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air: "Fuck God Damned Joe the God Damned Motherfucking plumber! I want Motherfucking Joe the plumber dead." http://cachaguastore.blogspot.com/2008/11/fuck-joe-plumber.html Michael Feingold, in a theater review: "I personally think Republicans should be exterminated before they cause any more harm." http://www.villagevoice.com/2004-01-13/theater/foreman-s-wake-up-call/1/ Spike Lee, referring to Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice: "I would put my Mars Air Jordans so far up her butt that the Mayo Clinic would have to remove them." http://sites.google.com/site/thedeskofbrian/notable-quotes/spike-lee Liberal radio host, Mike Malloy: "Republicans are evil sons-of-bitches. The Republican Party needs to be murdered." http://www.mrc.org/specialreports/2010/RealRadioHatemongers/DeathWish.aspx The Violent Liberal Left... The Left's Racist, Violent, Hate-Filled Rhetoric http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhHmhEqX7G4 The Violent Liberal Left vs. The Tea Party http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXbeq6Rt6Z0 G20 Liberals Riot vs. Tea Party Town Hall Attendees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqwurTqX4pA Liberal/Left Violence Against Tea Party http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtX2ljeicnE Liberal/Left Beat Anti-Obamacare African-American Man -- Calling Him the "N-Word" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGr8oYV50l8 The Liberal Left's "Climate of Hate" -- 2000 to 2010 http://tinyurl.com/6h84bzw Anti-War Liberals Scream, “Kill the Police” (at 0.40 second mark) at Rally http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed60LFxOW_8 Human Events Reporter Assaulted by Leftist at One Nation Rally http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDqG_uryxI Liberal/Democrat activist, Maurice Joseph Schwenkler, smashes windows at Denver Democrat Party headquarters in a failed attempt to falsely blame the Tea Party. Caught in the act, Schwenkler pleaded guilty and was ordered to pay $5,000 in restitution. http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_14045675?source=pkg The Weathermen: Involved with 25 bombings, they intended to kill members of the military, and in 2001 Bill Ayers said, "I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_%28organization%29#Major_Activities_and_Suspected_activities ELF and ALF have credit for more than 1,200 criminal incidents since 1990. The FBI has 150 pending investigations associated with animal rights or eco-terrorist activities, and ATF officials say they have opened 58 investigations in the past six years related to violence attributed to the ELF and ALF. The FBI calls ALF as the most significant "radical fringe" animal rights group in the United States. The report stated that between 1979 and 1993, more than 300 incidents of break-ins, vandalism, arson and thefts had been committed in the name of animal rights nationwide. ALF members set fire at a veterinary lab in California causing $3.5 million in damages. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/05/19/domestic.terrorism/index.html http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7215 Carol Anne Burger: Writer for the Huffington Post who stabbed her girlfriend 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2008/10/29/1029bbdeaths.html

Sanity -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:55:33 PM)
Who is is twisting the facts... [:D] That was Hoffa "warming up the crowd for Obama" After which Obama came onstage warmly greeted his close friend James Hoffa... Thats Obamas new tone, very soon after tearfully preaching to us about the wonderful new tone we needed And if Obama isnt responsible for his dimwitted spokesholes or the goons he has opening events for him its time we throw the irresponsible bum out on his ass and find someone who can be responsible Who says what he means and practices what he preaches quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic 1. That was hoffa not Obama 2. Using "cripple america" isnt violent or hateful...... and saying blacks need to get their marching shoes on is neither violent or hateful 3. Not one of them was the Presidents , so you simply dont have the facts in your court to twist Obama didnt say those things, this is your post trying to contend that he is responsible for anyone who dare call TP and republicans names. YOU did however take the hoffa comment to heart didnt you. pot kettle

slvemike4u -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/5/2012 7:57:06 PM)
so we have established that the left says unkind things bout the right,and the right says unkind things about the left.No news here at all [8\|]

FirmhandKY -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/6/2012 12:38:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u so we have established that the left says unkind things bout the right,and the right says unkind things about the left.No news here at all [8\|] Well, actually, we have established that the left claims that only the right says hateful, unkind things. Anything the left says, is de facto accurate and true, not hateful and inciting of violence. Anything the right says is automatically inciting violence and hate. And we want to push our grandmothers off a cliff, after we have fed them cat food, taken her off her meds, stolen her house, and killed her cats. [8D] Firm

tazzygirl -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/6/2012 12:43:26 AM)
quote: And we want to push our grandmothers off a cliff, after we have fed them cat food, taken her off her meds, stolen her house, and killed her cats. http://factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/ Nuff said.

Lucylastic -> RE: Still More of Obamas "New Tone" (1/6/2012 9:06:40 AM)
Palin actually said those things... Apart from the seeing russia from her porch thing, LMAO THAT is one thing. Attributing anything a lefty says , to Obama being at fault is stupid. There's the difference. Blame the person that said it.

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