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cariad -> Subdrop or what ? (5/30/2006 7:38:45 PM)

have any of you experienced subdrop after travelling to see your potential Dom/Domme while still there?

girl is asking because she is not sure if that is what is going on with her or if it is because we have not played for a while now.

girl travelled from Alberta, Canada to East Erie, PA to visit with a Dom and His alpha slave, and things were going great, however, she now finds herself feeling down.

she thought it may be subdrop, but how can that be when she is still here and has a few days before she goes home?

is this subdrop or something else? the confusion over what is causing girl to feel this way is driving her up the wall so to speak.

any and all help in regards to this matter will be greatly appreciated.

girl did speak to His Alpha Slave about it but only briefly cause girl ended up in tears and could not continue the conversation.

Thank you and Blessed Be




juliaoceania -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/30/2006 7:47:26 PM)

In my understanding (please others correct me if I am incorrect) subdrop can happen shortly after a scene and up to days after a scene. It can happen with your dominant in the room, or happen when you leave your dominant the next day. If you are having subdrop you might want some chocolate (if that is a comfort food for you), some affection and kind words. I am not sure if that it is subdrop, but these things could help you feel better even if it isn't. Or since you are still with your dom you could just scene again...smiles...lol




cariad -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/30/2006 7:55:08 PM)

"In my understanding (please others correct me if I am incorrect) subdrop can happen shortly after a scene and up to days after a scene. It can happen with your dominant in the room, or happen when you leave your dominant the next day. If you are having subdrop you might want some chocolate (if that is a comfort food for you), some affection and kind words. I am not sure if that it is subdrop, but these things could help you feel better even if it isn't. Or since you are still with your dom you could just scene again...smiles...lol"

girl has experienced subdrop before, but it has not been anything like she is experiencing now. chocolate, and a potato chip samich are comfort foods for girl, but alas there is no chocolate here at the moment lol

girl will speak to Them later on tomorrow as He is at work and His Alpha Slave is in Their room resting.

just wish she knew if it is subdrop or not, but alas she will figure it out sooner or later.

Blessed Be 





emeraldmaiden -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/30/2006 8:02:40 PM)

subdrop...is something i get when play ends.. usually because in my mind i wanted it to last longer.. or i know i have to go home.. and can't have it that way forever. i have gone home and cried for hours.. i don't have a 24/7 relationship.. always have craved/desired one.. but its not meant to be. maybe 24/7 sub/slaves do not have subdrop?




cariad -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/30/2006 9:03:59 PM)

"maybe 24/7 sub/slaves do not have subdrop?"

girl knows that Sir's Alpha slave has experienced subdrop and when girl was in a 24/7 relationship she too suffered severe subdrop and had to be held at night just to get over it......sadly girl can not be held at night while here because He is working third shift.

some 24/7 subs/slaves do not have subdrop though and that is something else that girl is curious about but will ask when she is back in Canada and she has dealt with the subdrop she knows will come from leaving here.

Blessed Be




vanillacreme -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/30/2006 9:42:16 PM)

Dearest cariad...

First of all, congratulations for the wonderful opportunity to visit your Master and His alpha slave real time.

My first experience is much of what you profess--the sensation of loneliness, high emotions, unexplained low's--even while still in the company of the Dominant.

I tried drowning myself in comfort--bubble baths, comfort food, and then immersing myself in servitude--trying to keep my mind busy.

Instead, after nothing seemed to work, I knelt nude in my *comfort space*...closed my eyes and took deep breaths for a few moments...clearing my mind of all my pre-conceived thoughts of what it *might be*.

With a notebook and a pen, I bent forward to the floor and starting writing--just words, and then sentences, followed with paragraphs and pages of everything that came to mind.

It made little sense to me at the time, but when the time was allowed for me to speak with the Dominant--I presented that notebook and asked for time to speak freely.

We talked, and went over everything I had written--I was allowed to cry, to cuddle close, to talk and then finally--to listen. 

For me personally, a lot of it was my own insecurities in being a *2nd* in the household at the time---of having to go home shortly there after---of questioning my own self worth--in wanting more time in my own jealousy---of fears, doubts, being unsure---

But that..helped me...

I remembered my place, opened my heart, and accepted all that laid before me.

I know I'm on a rant here, dear cariad.  I hope that whatever is causing your low soon seizes and you're the happy woman who grazes that picture.

With well wishes and the understanding of a fellow sis...

nilla









mystiquenz -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/31/2006 4:25:46 AM)

Cariad, greetings,

I remember those feelings well.  I think that it happens, because the times that you spend with your Dominant, can be intense, there is a lot of mental energy, the up and coming meeting, the time of the interaction or if you like "play" and then coming home, to your enviornment, away from your Master/Dominant/Top. 

I found, that during those times, that I was heading home, I would ensure that I had comfort food, like chocolate and for some reason bananas.  *don't laugh* a terrible combination. 

It is in a sense a form of subdrop, but it is more to do with the mental equalibrium or the lack thereof.  For me, at least, I found, that when I drove, the two hour journey home, by the time I got home, there was just a feeling of isolation.  It only lasts for a day or two, and sometimes, I would feel *down* before I even left, and other times, it may have been up to a few days later.  As this particular Dominant never drove to me, or seldom, and I was the one that visited after all that is where His dungeon was, then, it was rather harder.  The ups and the downs, i'm sorry cariad, are really a part of the integral part of how we process the interaction. 

I think mainly, in part, it is because in your heart, you know that that is where you want to be, and then you to leave, and you know it could be some time before that same situation re-presented itself. 

I think that sometimes we have to firm ourselves up.  If you are playing for the sake of play, but the dynamic is not what you seek, then you cope with the consequences.  The downs are the consequences of any D/s interaction.  But then like any cycle, the highs, are terrific are they not? 

I am sure there are many threads you can read on subdrop, or a post to a forum like this and as many people who stop on by and contribute, you could find as many different answers and people who contribute.  Only one or two of the posts will ring true to you. 

I would suggest by having a couple of really supportive people in your physical, would be helpful, someone you could just pick up the phone and speak to.  I know that worked a real treat for me.  Another thing, I would like to suggest, is to just sit still, and in a notebook, write down your feelings.  Get regular exercise, eat proper meals, and look after yourself, they are all important facets of preparing yourself mentally and physically.  You need to be in balance.  You need to be whole. 

Regardless, being a bottom/submissive/slave, you need to be a very strong lady, in my opinion, so that you can cope with the ups and the downs and try to put them into some kind of workable order.  It may well be that your Dominant will call you, and just by hearing the tone of his voice, that will settle you.  

It may be that there is some kind of ritual that you can organise for yourself, and work your way through the endless times.  From my experiences (although they are not significant), you need to put yourself first, and your dominant needs to be supportive and help you through these patches.  I hope that this Dominant is going to be there for you.  I think that it is part of the extended "after care".  It must have been a good time, cariad to have come down so hard.  My heart goes out for you, as you are obviously alone at this time, and a hug never goes astray. 

Remember the old boy scout/girl guide motto "be prepared" well, try and organise yourself so that the next time, it will not be as rough for you.  Having said that, equally, know in your heart of hearts, that you coped this time, you will the next time, but hopefully, your Dominant will assist in the settling down mechanism. 

~hugs from afar~






LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/31/2006 6:28:30 AM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_345419/mpage_1/key_sub%252Cdrop/tm.htm#345462
Link to 7 threads on dealing with sub drop




cariad -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/31/2006 9:39:20 AM)

girl thanks all of you for your wonderful words of encouragement and support.... she has spoken to Sir's Alpha slave about her feelings and as it turns out it is just the beginning of subdrop, and when girl gets home, she knows it will hit full force and she will be absolutely useless for a few days.

girl has read and posted to her group something that was sent to her on subdrop and after having gone through that, as well as talking with Sir's Alpha slave have come to realize even if things are not meant to be here, girl has learned a lot while here and will take that with her into her next encounter with a potential Dom/Dominant Couple/Domme.

time to go finish off a few more dishes and make something to eat...

Blessed Be and again Thank You to all of you for your help




babyblues -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/31/2006 11:33:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: emeraldmaiden

maybe 24/7 sub/slaves do not have subdrop?

 
the only time i have experienced sup drop was a few months ago when he went on a ski trip with our two older sons....it was all hustle and bustle as i prepared everything for their trip....all the usual business of our lives on top of me getting them ready.....the hugs and kisses and waves as they pulled off....
 
i stood there after they left, feeling at a loss....not knowing where to go or what to do - he is that much a part of who i am....it wore off a bit as i did things with our youngest but i still did not feel whole until they pulled back in the driveway a few days later....
 
interestingly....he felt some of the same thing - i got the biggest smile as they walked in the door....almost of relief that i was here waiting for him.....i wonder...do men ever get Dom drop? for lack of a better term....




impishlilhellcat -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/31/2006 11:36:59 AM)

When I go and visit and play with and get all attached to the one I am currently involved with everytime I leave I experience subdrop anywhere from two to five days.. i hate the feeling. I'm always super emotional during that time. The last time I visited I did experience while i was still there getting ready to leave and it was hard on me and hard on him.




mistoferin -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (5/31/2006 11:52:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: babyblues 
i stood there after they left, feeling at a loss....not knowing where to go or what to do - he is that much a part of who i am....it wore off a bit as i did things with our youngest but i still did not feel whole until they pulled back in the driveway a few days later....
 
interestingly....he felt some of the same thing - i got the biggest smile as they walked in the door....almost of relief that i was here waiting for him.....i wonder...do men ever get Dom drop? for lack of a better term....


I would term this is as wistfulness, loneliness and seperation anxiety.

I think people are confusing sub drop with other things. I am one of those who has major issues with sub drop. Sub drop is a condition that has a physical cause. It is not "the blues" one gets from being away from or leaving their Dom. It is the aftermath of an overload of endorphins produced during play...and the heavier the play, the heavier the drop tends to be. It manifests itself both physically and psychologically from a few hours to a few days after a scene and last from several hours to several days in duration.

When I get it I get a fever, chills, headache, nausea, vomiting, body aches and fatigue. Basically it feels like a major case of the flu. I also get mood swings that coincide with the physical symptoms and lessen in intensity relative to the lessening of the physical aspects.





mastrscait -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (6/4/2006 7:19:49 PM)

this may not be the right place to post but  i am in the middle of a severe day after sub drop.. i have not read any posts here and i don't know what the whole discussion is about.. i juat need to be heard right now.. i am experiencing one of the worst drops i have ever had!!!  i am not handling it and in speaking online with my Master tonight He has just told me that my manners are lacking and that i should rest and go to bed.  i can not quit crying!!  i can not clear my head and pull myself together...   




mastrscait -> RE: Subdrop or what ? (6/4/2006 7:27:47 PM)

thank you for the link that you have posted here!!!  it is always a relief to hear of others going through this major upheveal of emotions and know that i am not just loosing my mind...




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