Iamsemisweet
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I really have to take exception to your characterization of the gay community as "whiners", because discrimination against gay people, particularly gay parents, happens every day. They are discriminated against by the courts, they are discriminated against by individuals and they are discriminated against by Children's Services. This week on the court docket, I witnessed a case where the Agency was so obviously bigoted against a gay couple who had adopted infant twins that it made me sick. The attorney for the dads demolished the State because the bigotry and homophobia was so blatant.
The Doctor for the State made a determination of abuse through examination of an XRay, without even examining the child. Not only that, but he was able to determine which dad did it! Rrriiigghhttt. It wasn't hard to make him look like a bigoted asshole, especially when it came out that in every case he is involved with when a gay couple is involved, he ALWAYS finds abuse. Even though the incidence of child abuse in lesbian households is practically non existent. The social worker also was obviously lying, since she insisted that on a home visit, the child talked to her. The kid is 4 months old. Rrrriiiggghhtt.
What possible motive could these people have, except bigotry against gays? And shit like this happens every day, even in a state with an EBM law.
So, I can hardly blame gays for not wanting to be treated like second class citizens. If they are willing to except anything less than the same exact rights that hetero couples have, they will continue to be treated that way. Why should gays be expected to accept that their relationships are somehow inferior, any more than blacks should have accepted that they were not being accorded equal rights? While racism still exists in this country, it is nothing like the institutionalized and pervasive racism that existed before the black community said that it was not going to take it anymore, and demanded that they at least be treated equally under the law.
The gay community has to do the same thing, if they ever expect to abate the homophobia that exists in this country. 20 years would feel like a lifetime if you were being treated like a second class citizen.
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ORIGINAL: Clickofheels
I always have to chuckle, albeit sadly, how many people think they are soooooo "abused" by society in this country! They are abused not only because of their sexual orientation, but because of their ancestors, or their kids tongue ring, or the kind of car they drive, or because their "neighborhood society" says they have to paint their house sky-blue pink like everyone else's. We are a country of WHINERS!!! And if there isn't enough to whine about, people are picking things out of thin air to make SURE there's something new to whine about when they've exhausted something else. It's inevitable!
As far as I'm concerned, if same-sex marriage becomes legalized, there will just be something new gays will find to shout "abuse" about. Because the citizens of our country don't know how to live any differently.
Respectfully, in full body armor, and waving a white flag,
Ms Click
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