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wiibemyslave -> male fisting (5/31/2006 7:46:53 AM)

can anyone let me know the best way to fist a males ass, beside going slow and lots of lube, any suggestions on pressure, time needed etc
Thank you



MasterBuckeye -> RE: male fisting (5/31/2006 8:06:19 AM)

The below tut comes from: <http://www.fetishexchange.org/fisting01.shtml>
I hope that this helps answer your questions, but remember to always allow plenty of time and make sure that you man is well cleaned out.
MB
What is "fisting"?
Everyone (well, almost everyone) knows what finger-fucking is. Whether in ass or pussy, it's terrifically enjoyable to stroke someone inside. (Fingers up a man's ass, if aimed properly, will tickle his prostate gland, which feels AMAZINGLY good... just a little tip!) And people are generally comfortable with the idea of finger-fucking with more than one finger. But not as many people have been exposed to the idea of inserting a _whole hand_ into the ass or pussy... which is, in simplest terms, what fisting is. Yes, it's anatomically possible, and yes, it's EXTREMELY pleasurable. (I haven't experienced it, save vicariously.)
That said, it's now very important to explain what fisting is _not_. You do _not_ make a fist and ram it home. Fisting is one of the most intimate and complete ways to touch another human being, and it is something that has to be worked up to slowly and gently. There have been many posts about fisting on s.s.b-b, talking about the proper technique, the safety concerns, the fantastic feeling of openness and connection, the magical plane that two people fisting can attain... it's an incredibly intense way to make love. I can't do justice to the firsthand descriptions others have written, but I can mention some of the safety concerns.
Some safety issues
First of all, cut and file all your nails until every finger is as smooth as it could _possibly_ be. Your fingers will be in some very delicate places -- places that may not have pain receptors. You want to make sure you minimize all chance of causing damage.
Use latex gloves. AIDS is a matter of life and death.
You will probably want to clean your bottom's GI tract out. What else are enemas for? Be gentle with enemas; warm water is best. Don't use detergent in enemas. Some people enjoy putting alcohol (booze, not rubbing alcohol!) in enemas; if you do, use a VERY VERY VERY DILUTED solution, since it will get absorbed _real_ fast, and the bottom won't be able to expel it if they get too drunk. (I don't know a precise dosage, since this seems a bit too risky for me.)
Okay, now how do you do it?
Use LOTS (and I mean __LOTS__) of lube. Push it in with your fingers. Make a huge mess. Get it all over your hand, the back of your hand, between your fingers. Keep applying it as you go. You can't have too much lube. (And remember, oil-based lubricants dissolve latex). Some people like KY jelly; others say it dries out too quickly. In the UK, a substance called "Aqueous Cream" is the creme de la creme. Others use "J-Lube," which is a powdered concentrate that when added to water produces incredibly slippery goo; it's sold in veterinary supply houses! (Some people still use Crisco with latex gloves, on the theory that the Crisco is just the best lube, and the gloves don't break down _that_ fast. This is risky, but it's an option.)
Go slowly. Start with one finger and work up. DON'T RUSH. Be sensitive to your bottom's feelings. You are trying to persuade part of their body to open for you, to admit part of you deeply inside it. The energy will move back and forth, and you'll ride it, coaxing and pushing, in and out, moving your bottom into a trance. Keep communicating with your bottom; gags, or role-playing where the bottom feels inferior or is told to stay quiet, may not be conducive to the kind of relaxation and open empathy you'll probably need if this is a first time.
If your bottom suddenly hits their limit, you'll know; their orifice will clench tight shut suddenly. DON'T PULL OUT. Stay right where you are until the contraction ends, THEN start pulling out. You can pull a muscle or two if you try to back out in the middle of a reaction like that. If this happens, it's OK; you'll know to go slower next time (if you both want to try again). But assuming all is well...
When you reach five fingers, you're almost there. Now is when you want to be most sensitive and most aware. Your bottom is going to be flying on pain and pleasure; a sudden flinch and you'll find the asshole or vagina doesn't want you anymore. Respect that, and pull out (slowly!). But if your bottom's bottom wants it, then you'll slip your knuckles inside, folding your thumb *inside* your fingers, and (so I've been told) your hand will NATURALLY form a fist -- you DON'T need to clench your hand or anything else! (Note: be careful with your nails as you form a fist).
Now the real fun begins... explore, entice, pleasure your bottom, who will be in heaven... and when it comes time to pull out, do so slowly and naturally!



thetammyjo -> RE: male fisting (5/31/2006 9:56:36 AM)

I would say that in general when you fist someone -- anal or vaginal -- a good thing to keep in mind is that you are doing them a service, you are giving them a sensation and you must go with how their body reacts or risk damaging them. It is a very slow and steady practice, set aside a good serious block of time to do it.

Here are some books I can recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0962475157/qid=1149094522/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-4333754-6728869?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1560233745/qid=1149094572/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-4333754-6728869?s=books&v=glance&n=283155



DiannaVesta -> RE: male fisting (5/31/2006 3:51:42 PM)

You should train them with butt plugs at first and for a while. Start small and work up. This allows them to get use to the sensation. I also agree with Tammy Jo, sensation is the key and how you stimulate them. Its definately something you want to work up to. If they alreayd have exp doing this then give it a try. Where a glove, of course. Start with a few fingers, maybe use a dildo and trade off until they are comfortable. Pull all your fingers together bunching them and allow the anus hole to relax and your hand to fall into it. Don't push hard. Just push enough. The only lube I use is AstroGlide. Use a lot.

Dianna



newdombbw -> RE: male fisting (5/31/2006 4:04:34 PM)

I have to agree with all the statements posted so far.  I, personally, have sworn to always treat my subs/slaves better than I've been treated by men in my life.  I own 3 sizes of buttplug, always use lots of lube, and teach them to push out as I push in.  Stretching gently over time is the key.

Right now, in fact, I'm home from work after being treated to the old "spit and cram" done to me last night by a (huge cocked) male who turned out to be a switch.  Screaming at him to give me time to acclimate only bought me 15 seconds.  Hell, my slaves are telling me how to ease the pain (an epsom salts soak and lots of moisturing cream.)

Sometimes I wonder if being a gentle Domme is worth it.  But I know I still can't do that to someone else.

Enough of my complaining - safety, time, consideration, lots and lots of lube are all key.



FloridaISIS -> RE: male fisting (5/31/2006 4:18:33 PM)

Just want to throw in a quick thought. I have never fisted anyone, but as far as cleaning out the GI tract with an enema, the store bought Fleet Enema may not be enough. You have to really clean it out,  or I think you could risk an impaction? 
Again, I'm not  an expert, and those who practice this  on a regular basis could tell you for sure, but I think anytime you're going up the arse, and especially if you're geting  pretty deep you may risk the risk of an impaction.
I'd love to hear on this from those in the know because I've had a sub ask me to do this before.  Was just a thought that came to mind when I read this.

I also read one time where one can cut down on a lot of solid food a couple days before play, almost to the point of a liquid diet. Very light food, so as not to create a large amount of stool.
Just my humble ramblings.




JohnWarren -> RE: male fisting (5/31/2006 5:21:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FloridaISIS

Just want to throw in a quick thought. I have never fisted anyone, but as far as cleaning out the GI tract with an enema, the store bought Fleet Enema may not be enough. You have to really clean it out,  or I think you could risk an impaction? 
Again, I'm not  an expert, and those who practice this  on a regular basis could tell you for sure, but I think anytime you're going up the arse, and especially if you're geting  pretty deep you may risk the risk of an impaction.
I'd love to hear on this from those in the know because I've had a sub ask me to do this before.  Was just a thought that came to mind when I read this.

I also read one time where one can cut down on a lot of solid food a couple days before play, almost to the point of a liquid diet. Very light food, so as not to create a large amount of stool.
Just my humble ramblings.


If you really want the colon to be free from feces just follow the procedure laid down for people taking colonoscopies.

It's a three day procedure, beginning with a low-residue diet.  Two days before, take two Dulcolax tablets.  The day before eat nothing and drink only liquids or Jello.  Early the night before, take one and a half ounces of Fleet's Phospho Soda in a large glass of Sprite.  Also drink three eight ounce glasses of Sprite or water. Just before you go to bed repeat this last step. 



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