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MSubEdinburgh29 -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/22/2012 11:24:52 AM)

Not that into pain/CP and all the rest of it, but I would tolerate it if I knew she was 'getting off on it'. The other thing is, how can I go into the showers after football, if I had whip marks across my back?! [:D]

So I suppose I'd do it now and again, but if it was going to be on a regular basis, I'd have to re-think! [:-]

By the way, and I know this has already been touched upon... I think that the majority of girls get an urge to leave marks during sex, kind of like an animal instinct. Biting, nails digging into the back, that sort of thing. Of course, that's only based on the girls I've had sex with [:)]



BurntKitty -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/22/2012 11:47:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Fornica

I mark soo easily. (Damn pale pale skin)


Me too. Although with a mixed heritage of Irish/Norwegian/German it's considered more pasty than pale. (Or to paraphrase the quote from Space Jam: Larry Byrd isn't white, he's clear. That describes me.)

I mark so easily, when the cats jump on or off me, I have paw print bruises. My sadistic sweetie loves it.



littlewonder -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/22/2012 12:13:44 PM)

the thought of biting or clawing Master kinda turns me off to be honest. He isn't a masochist and doesn't like pain of any sort so it's strictly off limits plus I'd feel soooo bad if I did. Even if I accidently scratch him I get a little upset. 



NyxPontia -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/22/2012 1:34:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

the thought of biting or clawing Master kinda turns me off to be honest. He isn't a masochist and doesn't like pain of any sort so it's strictly off limits plus I'd feel soooo bad if I did. Even if I accidently scratch him I get a little upset. 


[sm=agree.gif]  I'd feel guilty for the rest of the night and probably spend all that time apologizing. One of the reasons I keep my nails short is to avoid clawing at my partner in the heat of the moment. I can't imagine there are many Masters/Mistresses that are okay with being bitten or scratched, either.



vield -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/22/2012 2:20:48 PM)

For those who are not yet into fairly intense impact play the question of marks is a frequent one. Some folks like or want them, some dislike giving or getting them, some have life situations in which marks might be awkward or damaging to their relationships or employment.

Thus negotiation of what everyone's consent level is regarding marks is certainly a good part of the negotiations one needs to do with new dom or sub partners.

Anyone can be marked. The impact of serious force will bruise or welt or cut human flesh. It can happen by accident.

Canes will mark far easier than will deerskin floggers, simple physics is involved. If your partner wants to be beaten with a boat oar, cricket bat or steel traffic sign, there are likely to be marks.

Heavy welts on the bottom from serious rattan caning may last over a week. People who love taking this sort of pain also love the reminders of it they get when they sit down.

Some doms very much enjoy marking their property. She or he may get a warm ownership feeling enhanced by seeing the marks days later.

Not all masochists are submissive, not all sadists are dominant, but if whoever is in charge enjoys marks, they can be provided.

To a person taking marks of any consensual type they may very much get off that their partner enjoys them enough to mark them.

Let us not forget, often in an event or multiple player situation one may get competitions. Once in awhile those giving marks might compete, but it may be srprizing to new people that almost always a competition will be between subs "showing off" their marks, for any of several reasons.

Some of the big regional kink events will have competitions with prizes (usually determined by audience applause) for those with the most awesome marks.

When we are pretty new to things, getting possession of pictures showing fairly serious marks on our bodies can be useful in letting others in our groups know that in fact we might be open to heavy play. That might or might not help others to accept us as serious players, even others who do not do heavy impact play themselves.

Each of us has stuff we may find attractive about potential partners. This can be VERY different from person to person , no matter what their gender identification, age, experience level, play preferences, ethnic diversity or sexual orientation. At times I will see something which someone I care deeply about is doing as wildly exciting even if the same action with anyone else I might be repelled by.

I'll enjoy my own kinks, and hope that all of you get to enjoy yours!



RaspberryLemon -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/22/2012 11:09:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NyxPontia

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

the thought of biting or clawing Master kinda turns me off to be honest. He isn't a masochist and doesn't like pain of any sort so it's strictly off limits plus I'd feel soooo bad if I did. Even if I accidently scratch him I get a little upset. 


[sm=agree.gif]  I'd feel guilty for the rest of the night and probably spend all that time apologizing. One of the reasons I keep my nails short is to avoid clawing at my partner in the heat of the moment. I can't imagine there are many Masters/Mistresses that are okay with being bitten or scratched, either.


Hmm. My Master loves getting bitten, and I have somewhat of an oral fixation and so I love love love biting him. His neck, back, arms, chest, collarbones, shoulders...his flesh just feels so good on my teeth and he tastes very good... I am no sadist or masochist, and neither is he, but he thoroughly enjoys the sensation of being bit and unless I get carried away with how hard I'm chomping down (in which case he stops me because it's painful,) he says they don't really hurt him. Sometimes the bites will leave marks or bruises but he apparently doesn't mind them at all. I'm glad he loves getting bit, because I love biting and to me it's a sign of affection.

As for getting scratched, he says he likes that too and he encourages me to just let go and do it in the heat of the moment when I am clinging to him. But honestly I feel bad about it because it sometimes even draws blood and although he claims it doesn't hurt one bit, they certainly LOOK like they hurt and that upsets me. I always end up feeling bad and apologizing but he just laughs at me and tells me again that he enjoys it and that it doesn't hurt. I guess I believe him, considering the threshold of what is painful goes up with arousal, but damn do some of those scrape-marks look downright painful. It's hard to look past that, heh.



mrsexxychocolate -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 5:52:39 PM)

Ya know I guess since I'm not really into pain myself I would think it was weird to put marks on someone I cared about. I take care of my "property" so if I take on a sub I would want to make sure they didn't have any harm come to them. I have alot of confidence and want my sub to feel confident to. Now I'm new to the world but that's just me. You have to give respect to get it.. don't ya?



shylilbear -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 7:29:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BurntKitty


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ORIGINAL: Fornica

I mark soo easily. (Damn pale pale skin)


Me too. Although with a mixed heritage of Irish/Norwegian/German it's considered more pasty than pale. (Or to paraphrase the quote from Space Jam: Larry Byrd isn't white, he's clear. That describes me.)

I mark so easily, when the cats jump on or off me, I have paw print bruises. My sadistic sweetie loves it.


Oh my, and here I thought I bruised easy! There were frequently times when one of my cats would jump on me and it would hurt like hell, but I don't remember it leaving bruises. (I have fibro so pressure from any source tends to send me through the roof)

Like you Fornica I have very pale skin. I tell people I'm about as white as a white girl can get lol. I find myself with a lot of bruises that I have no clue how I got. On the other hand though, when something happens (like dropping a 3lb dumbbell on my foot) that I would expect to get a world class whopper of a bruise from.......naw, of course not lol. Just two small little areas and that was it. I think the pain made up for the lack of bruising that time though, it HURT!!!!!



blondiesubmits -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 7:38:23 PM)

I think its hot, Ive never thought to much of why. The marks leave imprints of the man all over. Even with my clothes over I know they are there and will peak when I get the chance. Bites are especially fun becuase they are pretty intense for me and I am reminded of the exact shape and size of His teeth and lips which mixes the pain and the pleasure for me. Whether or not you think you are a masochist, little reminders of the intensity of your new sex life, can turn you quickly.



Arturas -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 8:53:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MyHazelLabyrinth

Now, this is something i'm seeming alot of especially on FL. Pictures of subs/slave/littles with marks or bruises or even cuts on certain body parts. And comments that suggest these marks are attractive or....i don't know the right words...appealing.
I've never had a mark made on me by a Dom or alike so maybe that is more than half of why i don't understand it.
I think for some it is symbolic of something. But i don't know what.
As i'm still pretty unsure about the kind of sub that i am, not really knowing if i'm a masochist or not, well i just want to know....why are marks appealing/attractive? (if i'm using the wrong words here, feel feel to put your own in instead)
Because when i see bruises or marks, i wouldn't want to show them off proudly, i would want to hide them. That's just me, maybe that might change later on but for now that's my opinion.

Any and all feedback would be welcome :)



I have never understood a girl wanting marks and showing them off even enjoying them in the mirror, how they have turned a blue green color and how they are as pleased with this as much as with a new pair of their favorite shoes, but it does happen. I have had two girls who exhibit this need and so I just accept it and do my part to make it happen, which is not easy btw. Here is a story of what happened with tam in the early days. It is true. I call the story "Marks".

“Marks,” she said.

“Marks?" I asked.

The room was quiet for a few moments. “No,” I said. “I don’t think marks are good things. Why do I want to mark my lovely girl’s body in any way? it’s something that is not in my interest at all. You have such fine soft skin. It’s just not going to happen.”

I turned back to my book thinking this conversation was over. I was mistaken.

“Marks,” she said.

I said nothing.

"They are what I enjoy, master." "They are something I cherish from you."
Your marks become a part of me and are not just what I want.”

She paused for effect.

“They are what I need!" Then softly "master."

She gave me time as I slowly absorbed this revelation in the way men always do when they realize they are not getting their way.

“Marks?” she asked.

“Marks,” I said.



Clickofheels -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 9:51:55 PM)

Lately, as I've browsed the photo section on this site which I do from time-to-time, I've noticed a number of the photos showing marks bestowed on a submissive to be extremely severe. And to be honest, I find them to be quite disturbing!!

You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?

Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.





SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 10:00:36 PM)

Because Click (which you were offensive by the way your entire post screams of Oh my goodness why would anyone like that)

I get off and get hot and get bothered by pain.... I like being spanked, I like being flogged, I like having needles being shoved into my skin.. I like electricity being applied to my person.

How much is enough? When Either I call red, or my Dom gets tired, or theres enough blood to fill a plastic baggy once over...

The marks and bruises are a side effect of getting off on said pain, they make me hot and bothered and wonderful, and i get to poke them...which hurts and makes me hot and bothered and wonderful...

Its not about ownership, or marking or doing anything other then..

It gets me off and makes me hot and bothered and wet... And the sex on subspace and endorphin highs is probably the best sex ive ever had...



LadyPact -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/30/2012 10:29:48 PM)

I would say 'enough' would be 'too much' when there is some type of actual harm.  I won't speak for anybody else, but I make those judgment calls based on learning the topping techniques properly to begin with.  If I'm doing a cutting, for example, I've spent the time listening to the recommendations that demo presenters gave while I was sitting in the audience.  I've read the related articles from valued sources.  Yes, I even practiced on fruit so I would get the feel of the blade.

As for being humane, feel free to claim that.  It's the sadist who is just as humane in stopping an activity before there is harm.  If we didn't have it, we'd just continue enjoy hurting them and not care.  For you, it's prevention.  For us, it's simply control.

Where you 'haven't seen the necessity' in marking someone, you also have not reaped the rewards.  Cuttings, for example, are amazingly intimate.  Branding doesn't actually last very long, but is similar to feeling a wave of control crash over you.  It's incredibly intense. 

Being logical, I would suggest to you that if you know you have that reaction to marks, you probably shouldn't seek pictures out in the interest of your own sensibilities .  Specifically going to look when you are fully aware that there are a number of sadists and masochist here  who enjoy their play shots probably makes about as much sense as the person who goes out of their way to go inside the bondage club and complain that they can see people who are tied up once they have entered the building.



tazzygirl -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 12:13:35 AM)

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I'd feel guilty for the rest of the night and probably spend all that time apologizing. One of the reasons I keep my nails short is to avoid clawing at my partner in the heat of the moment. I can't imagine there are many Masters/Mistresses that are okay with being bitten or scratched, either.


My ex adored sex rough... including the scratches and bites.

To each their own.



leonine -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 12:53:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

quote:

ORIGINAL: MyHazelLabyrinth

Now, this is something i'm seeming alot of especially on FL. Pictures of subs/slave/littles with marks or bruises or even cuts on certain body parts. And comments that suggest these marks are attractive or....i don't know the right words...appealing.
I've never had a mark made on me by a Dom or alike so maybe that is more than half of why i don't understand it.
I think for some it is symbolic of something. But i don't know what.
As i'm still pretty unsure about the kind of sub that i am, not really knowing if i'm a masochist or not, well i just want to know....why are marks appealing/attractive? (if i'm using the wrong words here, feel feel to put your own in instead)
Because when i see bruises or marks, i wouldn't want to show them off proudly, i would want to hide them. That's just me, maybe that might change later on but for now that's my opinion.

Any and all feedback would be welcome :)



I have never understood a girl wanting marks and showing them off even enjoying them in the mirror, how they have turned a blue green color and how they are as pleased with this as much as with a new pair of their favorite shoes, but it does happen. I have had two girls who exhibit this need and so I just accept it and do my part to make it happen, which is not easy btw.


My late wife and I were fortunately on the same page on this.  She loved to be able to see the next day that she'd been thoroughly beaten.  She even wore low necked blouses to show off her bruises at the office, which caused her coworkers a lot of confusion ("!!!Did your husband do that???!!!"  "Yes, isn't it great?") since they had met me and knew I was both a loving spouse and a generally helpful nice guy.

Personally, ever since I first watched a bottom turn red from my spanking, I've always liked to see where I've been.  A picture of a sub covered in whip welts or cane tracks is exciting because it suggests all that went into causing those marks.  OTOH, if it's got to the point of bleeding then I'm turned off, and cutting just squicks me.  We all draw the line somewhere, and the place where you draw it is your choice, not some natural law.



Arturas -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 6:17:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Clickofheels

Lately, as I've browsed the photo section on this site which I do from time-to-time, I've noticed a number of the photos showing marks bestowed on a submissive to be extremely severe. And to be honest, I find them to be quite disturbing!!

You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?

Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.






In truth, many of the more serious marks show up in the morning, so I don't make any judgement based on the severity of marks since they are not all present in their final form during our "love making/slave girl bound and being flogged and used by the evil captor" session. Instead, I judge based on completetly different physical clues, her breathing, her movements, her responses to my verbal demands, how her wrists move in the bindings, all of these are clues one will watch since a sub in love is not likely to use a safe word no matter what, but that is a subject for a different thread I suspect.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 6:22:21 AM)

~fr~

I love leaving marks. My last sub was a total etch-a-sketch (shake him and it's gone!) and that disappointed both of us. Type 1 diabetic, so we had to be cautious. I loved having marks, too, and since I mark if someone breathes on me too hard, trophy bruises were easy to come by.



Arturas -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 6:23:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: Clickofheels

Lately, as I've browsed the photo section on this site which I do from time-to-time, I've noticed a number of the photos showing marks bestowed on a submissive to be extremely severe. And to be honest, I find them to be quite disturbing!!

You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?

Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.






In truth, many of the more serious marks show up in the morning, so I don't make any judgement based on the severity of marks since they are not all present in their final form during our "love making/slave girl bound and being flogged and used by the evil captor" session. Instead, I judge based on completetly different physical clues, her breathing, her movements, her responses to my verbal demands, how her wrists move in the bindings, all of these are clues one will watch since a sub in love is not likely to use a safe word no matter what, but that is a subject for a different thread I suspect.


btw, I don't need to make marks. Instead, she, the sub, the bottom, needs the marks. It is true I need to flog her and enjoy her squirm in her almost too tight bindings and cry out and beg and then thank me for them when I demand it from her while she lays there at my mercy, completely, but the marks are just a byproduct that she herself greatly desires, like a badge of honor for her and others in truth. I use the pinwheel on her and hot wax and ice, none of these are intended to make marks but they do as a byproduct, except the ice, which I use for contrast with the hot wax in some very interesting places....sorry, I do go on.



Arturas -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 6:28:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: Clickofheels

Lately, as I've browsed the photo section on this site which I do from time-to-time, I've noticed a number of the photos showing marks bestowed on a submissive to be extremely severe. And to be honest, I find them to be quite disturbing!!

You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?

Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.






In truth, many of the more serious marks show up in the morning, so I don't make any judgement based on the severity of marks since they are not all present in their final form during our "love making/slave girl bound and being flogged and used by the evil captor" session. Instead, I judge based on completetly different physical clues, her breathing, her movements, her responses to my verbal demands, how her wrists move in the bindings, all of these are clues one will watch since a sub in love is not likely to use a safe word no matter what, but that is a subject for a different thread I suspect.


btw, I don't need to make marks. Instead, she, the sub, the bottom, needs the marks. It is true I need to flog her and enjoy her squirm in her almost too tight bindings and cry out and beg and then thank me for them when I demand it from her while she lays there at my mercy, completely, but the marks are just a byproduct that she herself greatly desires, like a badge of honor for her and others in truth. I use the pinwheel on her and hot wax and ice, none of these are intended to make marks but they do as a byproduct, except the ice, which I use for contrast with the hot wax in some very interesting places....sorry, I do go on.



You know, it occurs to me that many subs permanently mark themselves. It is a tatoo on their lower backs, quite large and in some form of nature, butterfly, bird or some such. I'm told it is quite painful when received. In a way, it is a permanent "mark" perhaps?



SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Leaving marks/bruises (1/31/2012 6:41:26 AM)

No, its called a tattoo, usually of something that means something to them in a specific nature...

I have 7... I do it because i enjoy creating tattoos for myself, I enjoy the personal symbolism... I enjoy the pleasure of knowing whats on my person is mine and mine alone...

I dont do it because i want to mark myself...



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