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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 1/28/2012 3:44:57 PM   
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This "dumbing down" isn't necessarily an indictment on Obama per-se, but rather that of the American public who have had their intelligence diminished with every generation.



Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic statement?

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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 1/29/2012 1:34:10 AM   
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He's no george w bush. I will grant you that


I've already seen dozens of guys like this ... when Paul doesn't get the nod ... hwe might go columbine... keep an eye on em.


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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 1/29/2012 1:59:18 AM   
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Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic statement?

Sure ... Just have a look at the Front Page of the Miami Herald on the morning of Wednesday, February 1st

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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 1/29/2012 2:03:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: provfivetine
This "dumbing down" isn't necessarily an indictment on Obama per-se, but rather that of the American public who have had their intelligence diminished with every generation.

Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic statement?

Perhaps your own posts would be sufficient validation?

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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 1/29/2012 2:10:31 PM   
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Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic statement?


Maybe you can find some evidence for your moronic statement? I can't post any legitimate studies from JSTOR or anything, but I have a feeling that even if I did, it would fly over your head anyways.

Some points regarding how stupid this country is, and some points regarding how Americans have gotten dumber.

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Here's some data:

The Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs commissioned a civic education poll among public school students. A surprising 77% didn't know that George Washington was the first President; couldn't name Thomas Jefferson as the author of the Declaration of Independence, and only 2.8% of the students actually passed the citizenship test. Along similar lines, the Goldwater Institute of Phoenix did the same survey and only 3.5% of students passed the civics test.

Fox News, the most watched news program in the U.S., has on numerous occasions recommended that school science classes be "fair and balanced," meaning by the teaching of biblically-inspired creationism alongside Darwin's' scientific theory of evolution.

According to the National Research Council report, only 28% of high school science teachers consistently follow the National Research Council guidelines on teaching evolution, and 13% of those teachers explicitly advocate creationism or "intelligent design."

On the eve of the Iraq War, 69% of American's thought Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks; four years later, even though proof had been provided that he was not, 34% still believe he was.

18% of Americans still believe that the sun revolves around the earth, according to a Gallup poll.

According to another poll, the average American voter believes that U.S. foreign aid consumes 24% of the Federal budget, when it is only 1%.

The American Association of State Colleges and Universities report on education shows that the U.S. ranks second among all nations in the proportion of the population aged 35-64 with a college degree, but 19th in the percentage of those aged 25-34 with an associates or high school diploma, which means that for the first time, the educational attainment of young people will be lower than their parents'.

In a Newsweek poll, of U.S. citizens, 29% couldn't identify Joe Biden as the Vice President, and 44% couldn't describe the Bill of Rights.
In a 2009 survey of a number of European countries and the U.S. on international affairs, a significant majority of Europeans could identify the Taliban, and just over 50% of Americans could, despite the heavy presence of the U.S. in Afghanistan.

74% of Republicans in the U.S. Senate and 53% in the House of Representatives deny the validity of climate changes since despite the findings of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and every other significant scientific organization in the world.

Researcher Kyung Hee Kim at the College of William & Mary analyzed 300,00 Torrance Creativity Test scores of children and adults in the US. Kim found creativity and IQ scores rose steadily until 1990, and were in decline thereafter, and the most serious decline occurring for the youngest children.

In 1966-67, approximately 1.4 million students who took the verbal portion of the S.A.T and a score of 700 or more was achieved by 33,000 students. In 1986-87 over 1.8 million students took the test and a score of 700 or higher was attained by fewer than 14,000.

A new global study of educational systems in major nations ranks U.S. 15 year olds 14th in the world in reading skills, 17th in science and 25th (below average) in math.

According the 2009 National Assessment of Educational Progress, 68% of public school children in the U.S. do not read proficiently by the time they finish third grade. And the U.S. News & World reported that barely 50% of students are ready for college level reading.

Of the 21 countries participating in the Third International Mathematics and Science Study, American high school seniors did better than only 2 countries--Cyprus and South Africa.

According to the National Endowment for the Arts report in 1982, 82% of college graduates read novels or poems for pleasure; two decades later only 67% did.
And more than 40% of Americans under 44 did not read a single book--fiction or nonfiction--over the course of a year. The proportion of 17 year olds who read nothing (unless required by school ) has doubled between 1984-2004.

Renowned T.V. producer Jerry Bruckheimer, who has produced many successful T.V. shows, was once quoted as saying, "it is getting harder and harder to underestimate the intelligence of the American public. It now averages well below the previous 6th grade level."

Harvard University's Kiku Adatto found that between 1968 and 1988 the average sound bite on the news for a presidential candidates-featuring the candidate's own voice-dropped from 42.3 seconds to 9.8 seconds. By 2000, according to another Harvard study, the bite was down to 7.8 seconds.
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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 2/2/2012 6:08:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

His most recent address was absolutely laughable...




As well as COMPLETELY DISHONEST... according to Barack OFailure in his State of the Union address:  "America is back and anyone who says America is in decline doesn’t know what they’re talking about".

Hmmm... so I guess the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) "doesn't know what they're talking about"?!!  Ummm... more likely that the Failure-In-Chief, attempting to HIDE his blatant incompetence during an election year, is the one who doesn't know what HE is talking about.  


Dim Prospects for Growth Drive Americans to Save
by The Washington Times – Feb 1, 2012

Hopes that America’s economic or budgetary situation might improve anytime soon were dashed Tuesday. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) issued its outlook through 2022, with near-term figures looking increasingly negative. This shouldn’t surprise anyone.

The nonpartisan watchdogs expect sluggish growth through 2013, with the economy expanding an estimated 2 percent this year but slowing to a pitiful 1.1 percent next year. Unemployment is expected to hover around 9 percent. The CBO forecast is for 8.9 percent unemployment in 2012, climbing to 9.2 percent the following year.

American consumers didn’t need the CBO to tell them we’re stuck in a malaise. In January, the consumer-confidence index dropped from 64.8 to 61.1, according the Conference Board. Likewise, the business barometer maintained by the Institute for Supply Management-Chicago declined from 62.2 in December to 60.2 in January, led by slowing orders and employment. To round off this litany of gloom, there was a larger-than-expected 3.7 percent decline in the latest S&P/Case-Shiller index of property values. By measure after measure, the U.S. economy is headed down.

Things could have been even worse. The economy grew at 2.8 percent in the last quarter of last year, but that yielded an anemic 1.8 percent growth rate for the year, nowhere near the 3 percent needed for a sustained recovery. The economy added some jobs, but 400,000 people still filed for jobless benefits for the first time.

For the most part, Americans aren’t seeing their wallets grow. Personal disposable income rose a paltry 0.5 percent in December, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. What’s most striking about the BEA data is that personal consumption expenditures decreased slightly during the height of the holiday shopping season. The money not spent is going straight into bank vaults, with the personal savings rate up from 3.5 percent in November to 4 percent in December.

American families are so concerned about the future that they’re socking away as much cash as possible even though the Federal Reserve continues its policy of holding interest rates low. The public has a sense that worse days lie ahead, especially in light of the dire news emanating from across the Atlantic about the teetering European Union. U.S. financial markets will be affected by how Europe handles its debt crisis.

Still, the CBO’s numbers are just forecasts. It’s not too late for Congress and the president to set the stage for better outcomes. They can simplify and reduce taxes and regulation, enabling the private sector to jump-start investment, production and job creation. Congress can question Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke about the Fed’s liquidity swap arrangements with the European Central Bank and work to limit the exposure of the Fed and U.S. markets to the eurozone.

Reducing ambiguity and the regulatory burden is the surest way of generating the sustained economic growth needed to cut the unemployment rate long-term. When consumers see their government acting responsibly - by living within its means - they’ll respond by boosting personal spending, which will help get the economy rolling again.

Source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/1/the-economics-of-fear/


WAY TO GO O'FAILURE!!!


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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 2/2/2012 9:02:35 PM   
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In 1966-67, approximately 1.4 million students who took the verbal portion of the S.A.T and a score of 700 or more was achieved by 33,000 students. In 1986-87 over 1.8 million students took the test and a score of 700 or higher was attained by fewer than 14,000.


2007 results.

750–800 28,366
700–749 46,128

74,494 700 or above

1,488,530 total testing

http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2007/national-report.pdf

You would think they would use something recent... or at least fact check their own information.

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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 2/2/2012 9:06:59 PM   
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the american education system is making us incapable of critical thought, that totally wasn't obvious before this, NEXT!

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RE: Dumb and Dumber: State of the Union Address - 2/2/2012 9:12:48 PM   
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the american education system is making us incapable of critical thought, that totally wasn't obvious before this, NEXT!


I am a product of the american education system. There is a difference between being dumb, and having a political agenda.

Oddly enough, I cannot find the 1986-87 scores. The averages and means, yes, but not the actual scores. I am wondering where the article obtained the information from.,, no footnotes.

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