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CeriseNin -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 8:58:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterEdweird223

Good replies and I appreciate them. I will rethink my profile, I have removed the about me and the pictures. One thing "Have I ever been in a relationship?" Yes! 28 years to the same woman until she passed away. Thanks! for your insight.

I'm very sorry for your loss.

You seem like a sincere man, and I wish you the best of luck.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 9:06:12 AM)

Like anything, your level of exposure and awareness affect your perception of reality and ability to detect scams. I would venture to guess that 99% of Master/slave relationships involved no monetary exchange with a 3rd party. 

Sure, finders fees are paid.  Yes, symbolic ownership transfers are bought.  By my experience, that usually occurs between friends or well known community members when a Master puts out the word he is seeking and tosses in a cash reward to inspire referrals.  Contact from strangers "selling slaves" is usually a scam.




stef -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 9:46:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterEdweird223

Any help and legitimate suggestions?

Yes.  Thinking with the big head generally prevents most people from falling victim to these kinds of scams.




Fornica -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 10:01:28 AM)

Mentioning money in any form puts a big fat target on your forehead (aka, your intro ~ http://www.collarchat.com/m_3976721/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3976721 ).
It's unfortunate, but eh, it's the internet.




peppermint -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 10:11:59 AM)

No one is trying to belittle you.  You are just one of the many guys to write here and ask the very same question.  In this day and age it is assumed that most people know that real slavery was outlawed a long time ago. 

According to your profile you must be an experienced Dom.  You say you have experience.  How did you find your last submissive?  Have you ever been to a munch or any meeting of kinky people?  That is where you have the best chance of finding a submissive of your own. 

I'm being quite frank here as I'm in your own age category.  When you are near 60 it gets difficult to find a female submissive.  Most will be already taken.  There are way more kinky men than kinky women at that age on both sides of the kneel.  This means that if you really want to find a submissive you will have to do more than look online and offer to help to pay for transportation costs. 

First thing for you to do is delete that awful profile.  As Steven has stated, it is only going to attract scammers.  Scammers don't giive a shit that you wrote saying they shouldn't contact you.  Apparently it's not working so why put negative stuff in that profile?  You want only positive stuff in your profie because that makes you look good.  Write a new profile.  Tell us about YOU.  Tell us about your day.  Tell us what makes you tick.  What activities do you enjoy and include vanilla as well as kink activities.  Read the profiles of the submissives within 200 miles of you.  Write to some of them if you are interested and tell her why you are interested in her.   Write them a nice note introducing yourself just as if you were introducing yourself to a group of people. 

Then, get off the computer and find some real life people.  Read the FAQs to find the groups and meetings and munches near you.  There is a link in the FAQ that will lead you to a web site that lists all the groups in Tennessee.  Then drive to one of them.  Make yourself personable.  Make friends.  Network.  There may not be a submissive waiting at the very first munch you attend, however, eventually someone will hear about somebody who is looking and if you have made friends, they'll let you know about this somebody. 

Last, don't open your home to someone you do not know.  That's just asking to get ripped off.  Also, get to know someone BEFORE you give 24/7 a try.  I really hated that part of your profile where you will give the sub a short trial in your home.  That is just plain mean to kick someone out who may have nowhere to live, no family close by, and no job.  Again.  GET TO KNOW HER BEFORE YOU INVITE HER INTO YOUR HOME.  D/s is like any other relationship.  You get to know each other.  You get to date.  You meet her family.  She meets your family.  You spend some evenings in watching movies.  You go out with friends. 

By the way, Gary and I met at a kink event called In the Woods.  He was 64 and I was 54.  We lived 550 miles apart.  However, we did meet because we took the time to attend an event that would have a lot of people there.  We met because we took the time to make friends at the event.  A person became friendly with Gary.  That same person made friends with me.  We got intoduced.  Six months later after meeting families and doing a lot of talking and getting to know each other we moved together.  That was 6 1/2 years ago.  We both had profiles on Collarme but had never searched for someone so far away.  The event brought us together. 

Now get out and find that perfect submissive for you.  Good luck. 




Wolf2Bear -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 3:29:32 PM)

I wouldn't pay more than 30 Yen myself.




BootyBoy -> RE: Buying a slave (1/31/2012 8:04:24 PM)

Well actually people do get sold, even here in the Americas. Of course it usually has nothing to do with "the lifestyle," just some poor, disenfranchised, person (usually a third-world woman) who was promised some kind of opportunity to better herself and make a living in a far away land. So it DOES happen, but it would be very rare for it to manifest itself in specific D/s setting. More likely to be found in closed-knit foreign prostitution rings, massage parlors or forced labor scenarios. I agree with most of the other posters that this case smell more like a scam.




JanahX -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 2:51:56 AM)

Why on earth would you advise someone to "change" their profile? Is it so they can delude other people into thinking that they have something going on that they obviously dont?

If he is the age he says he is and this is his best effort - and what he has written is the most important thing he wants to convey, then shouldnt that be the equivalent to what he attracts?

Advising someone to change something that they are not, is misleading to the potential respondent reading that persons profile.




DarkSteven -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 5:44:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JanahX

Why on earth would you advise someone to "change" their profile? Is it so they can delude other people into thinking that they have something going on that they obviously dont?

If he is the age he says he is and this is his best effort - and what he has written is the most important thing he wants to convey, then shouldnt that be the equivalent to what he attracts?

Advising someone to change something that they are not, is misleading to the potential respondent reading that persons profile.


JanahX, think of it as marketing.  We never told him what specifically to say about himself, just that it BE about himself.  Previously, it defined the circumstances of how a new sub would get transported to Tenn, and who would pay for what when.  We told him to describe himself and how the life together would be.

We didn't tell him to make anything up.  Based on his profile and his statements here, I doubt that even entered his head. 




kalikshama -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 6:24:59 AM)

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By the way, Gary and I met at a kink event called In the Woods.  He was 64 and I was 54.  We lived 550 miles apart.  However, we did meet because we took the time to attend an event that would have a lot of people there.  We met because we took the time to make friends at the event.  A person became friendly with Gary.  That same person made friends with me.  We got intoduced.  Six months later after meeting families and doing a lot of talking and getting to know each other we moved together.  That was 6 1/2 years ago.  We both had profiles on Collarme but had never searched for someone so far away.  The event brought us together. 


Yay for BDSM events!




JanahX -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 8:19:48 AM)

Negative ...

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First thing for you to do is delete that awful profile. As Steven has stated, it is only going to attract scammers. Scammers don't giive a shit that you wrote saying they shouldn't contact you. Apparently it's not working so why put negative stuff in that profile? You want only positive stuff in your profie because that makes you look good. Write a new profile. Tell us about YOU. Tell us about your day. Tell us what makes you tick. What activities do you enjoy and include vanilla as well as kink activities.


If its an awful profile? Then maybe the guy is awful? But on the other hand - I would think he would attract what he puts out there. Put positive things in? He is pretty much displaying who he is from what I just read. And I seriously believe that is all he has to offer.




DarkSteven -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 8:23:02 AM)

JanaX, he completely rewrote his profile.  It used to specify how a woman would relocate to him, how far he'd drive to pick her up, what parts he'd pay for and what parts she'd pay for.

It sounds pretty good now.




MasterEdweird223 -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 9:13:08 AM)

I just want to say thanks for the comments. One of the hardest things to do is write a profile. Anyone that believes its easy needs to read more than mine. The suggestions helped. I put down what I was thinking, thought about it for a while. Then wrote it. The comments about what I wrote were right on for the most part. Yes! I looked at about 40 yesterday, men and women. Trying to get a feel for what to put. Regardless it is my thoughts. If there are more comments I am open to them. Remember most come to these post for the help. Not to be trashed. Being 59 years old doesn't make me smarter just older than most here. Take care and thanks again.




peppermint -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 9:45:43 AM)

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If its an awful profile? Then maybe the guy is awful?


Well, if the guy is as awful as his profile then he won't be able to do better even with a rewrite.  However, in fact he changed his profile.  He left out all the stuff about money and wrote about what he is looking for and the activities they would enjoy together.  I do not believe he is lying in his new profile.  I think he just didn't realize what a bad impression his first profile made. 




Wolf2Bear -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 10:26:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterEdweird223

I just want to say thanks for the comments. One of the hardest things to do is write a profile. Anyone that believes its easy needs to read more than mine. The suggestions helped. I put down what I was thinking, thought about it for a while. Then wrote it. The comments about what I wrote were right on for the most part. Yes! I looked at about 40 yesterday, men and women. Trying to get a feel for what to put. Regardless it is my thoughts. If there are more comments I am open to them. Remember most come to these post for the help. Not to be trashed. Being 59 years old doesn't make me smarter just older than most here. Take care and thanks again.


Thing is....how well you write out a profile will directly influence how others on this site will perceive you and your character assets and defects. One's profile is like a resume and is a way to "sell" yourself if you are seeking another. Usually what works is to offer up a brief description of what you seek, what you offer and generally what your interests are inside and outside the kink. Yeah, it may need tweaking here and there before you have a polished profile though in the end it is worth it.




DesFIP -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 7:36:41 PM)

I love the new profile. One tiny quibble, it could benefit from a paragraph or two.




MasterEdweird223 -> RE: Buying a slave (2/1/2012 8:10:34 PM)

DesFIP, Thanks! I think I split the paragraphs appropriately, so it wouldn't be to much of a run on.




Casssy -> RE: Buying a slave (2/2/2012 1:23:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterEdweird223
But I am finding out that everyone wants money.
Visa, medical, and airfare. Where does it end?

No, not everyone wants money. I know it is different for a woman but I have yet to meet someone who will try to get any money out of me. And if I think someone is worth enough for me to drop my life and travel half the world to meet him, I will be the one paying for my plane ticket. I would not offer nor accept no less.
So it ends where you want it to end. For me it ends right at the start. Asking for money? Dont message me again. Even if you are the most perfect person in the world. It is my criteria and my principles. Your mileage may vary of course.




Fornica -> RE: Buying a slave (2/2/2012 8:32:44 AM)

OP~ I think you're probably a good, decent guy. It's great that you're listening to the advice given, and not being a jackass about it like most (lol). Keep posting in the forums, make some friends, and you'll do just fine :)




Trismagistus -> RE: Buying a slave (2/2/2012 1:19:27 PM)

solution: forward letter to local police and accuse scamming morons of attempting to sell a slave, sit back, smoke a cigar, anticipate lulz.




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