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erieangel -> How out of touch can this man be? (2/1/2012 6:08:10 PM)

Romney actually declared he is not concerned about the poor.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/10375159-418/romney-says-hes-not-concerned-about-the-poor-draws-criticism.html

To be fair, he also said the poor have the safety net and that he would repair it if anybody is falling through the cracks.  Romney also admits the rich are doing just fine and that his concern is for the middle class.

The problem with Romney's thinking is that people have been falling through the cracks of the social safety net for 30+ years.  I have two clients who were recently cut off of welfare because of the arcane welfare laws.  They are now in danger of becoming homeless because of it.  Most of the middle class is 1-2 paychecks away from poverty.

Romney's words also counters the aims of most of the Republican party, which is to do away with the social safety net partly on the false claims that charitable organizations can "do it better".



Yachtie -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/1/2012 6:12:56 PM)

Romney is of the Bankster Party, Republican in name or otherwise. IIRC, his #1 corporate doner is Goldman Sachs.

As to "the false claims that charitable organizations can "do it better", well, there was a time where they did it just fine. But the recipients were not beholden to any political party for their sustenance. Such is not PC, now is it?



erieangel -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/1/2012 6:28:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

Romney is of the Bankster Party, Republican in name or otherwise. IIRC, his #1 corporate doner is Goldman Sachs.

As to "the false claims that charitable organizations can "do it better", well, there was a time where they did it just fine. But the recipients were not beholden to any political party for their sustenance. Such is not PC, now is it?


And we have the biggest charitable organization that gives food to the poor--The Second Harvest Food Bank--which has been saying that they are finding it difficult to keep up with demand. 



SternSkipper -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/1/2012 10:13:56 PM)

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To be fair, he also said the poor have the safety net and that he would repair it if anybody is falling through the cracks. Romney also admits the rich are doing just fine and that his concern is for the middle class.


Somebody should ask him what he plans to do about all the people from the middle class who have ALREADY fallen through the cracks. They number in the millions.




SternSkipper -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/1/2012 10:23:15 PM)

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Romney is of the Bankster Party, Republican in name or otherwise. IIRC, his #1 corporate doner is Goldman Sachs.


Course he's getting shitloads from Sachs... Jamie Dimon is taking excellent care of Mitt too... why wouldn't they? He's been their hired wrecking ball for decades.
   Think about how this septic tank back end VC shit works. The banks holding all the real big notes for the first round finance get all freaked ... along comes Bain or a precursor firm and they either strip the company like a stolen car, merge it with something that's on the way up or just works, or bring it into re-org and fire the fuck out of everybody. What I am surprised is that nobody is REALLY taking Mitt with that ugly aspect of his business character.
     Course, maybe they just realize that the Democrats will anyway.




Moonhead -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 5:02:41 AM)

This is (as Yachtie says) hardly a new development with Romney. Does nobody remember Reagan's AG stating that the homeless are perfectly happy sleeping under a bridge?



Yachtie -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 5:09:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: erieangel

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie

Romney is of the Bankster Party, Republican in name or otherwise. IIRC, his #1 corporate doner is Goldman Sachs.

As to "the false claims that charitable organizations can "do it better", well, there was a time where they did it just fine. But the recipients were not beholden to any political party for their sustenance. Such is not PC, now is it?


And we have the biggest charitable organization that gives food to the poor--The Second Harvest Food Bank--which has been saying that they are finding it difficult to keep up with demand. 



Not being able to keep with increasing demand is not the root problem but the consequence of government policy. Even the best of organization can be stretched into oblivion.





bossman777 -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 5:22:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

This is (as Yachtie says) hardly a new development with Romney. Does nobody remember Reagan's AG stating that the homeless are perfectly happy sleeping under a bridge?


Why sleep in a $120 K house when you can sleep under a $200 M bridge?



kalikshama -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 12:03:03 PM)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-1-2012/indecision-2012---mitt-romney-on-the-poor

Jason Jones and John Oliver weigh in on Mitt Romney's conflation of the very rich and the very poor as constituencies requiring no attention.



VideoAdminGamma -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 12:14:26 PM)

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Lucylastic -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 2:18:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-1-2012/indecision-2012---mitt-romney-on-the-poor

Jason Jones and John Oliver weigh in on Mitt Romney's conflation of the very rich and the very poor as constituencies requiring no attention.

Sheer Brilliance as usual!



fucktoyprincess -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 2:31:11 PM)

Well it's all about the votes. The poor and the rich do not need to vote for Romney for him to pull in a win. He only has to convince the middle class. And the middle class do not identify with the poor. Oddly, the middle class are likely to identify with the rich (which is why so many middle class people vote against self-interest and vote Republican).

I think the statement was quite strategic.



Lucylastic -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 2:33:00 PM)

Theyve made being poor into a disease they will do anything not to catch



Fellow -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 5:19:59 PM)

I notice the general idea: centrally planned economy. Romney,  “My energy is going to be devoted to helping middle-income people.” Market capitalism is dead.



Fellow -> RE: How out of touch can this man be? (2/2/2012 5:23:41 PM)

To add: Romney is still (at least in words) progress from Obama. The last helps mostly top 0.1%.



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