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TheHeretic -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 10:30:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Trismagistus

But Heretic, in case you haven't noticed, I'm extremist left wing psycho anarchist bigot with a hard on for a new civil war, are you actually trying to reason with me @_@ holy shit, no one's ever done that before. I actually would like to buy you a totally uncontaminated beer or beverage of your choice and treat you to dinner sometime as a friend. You see I don't believe half of the hate speak I spew, I'm just extremely angry with the world for having far too many people who lack common sense and so I've given up trying to speak reasonably with most people about these things, I am in my own way attempting to demonstrate how absurd it all is. So thank you, even if you continue to disagree with me your response speaks to me on a level most people don't even try, namely that of a logical rational human being who sees the virtue in equality and acceptance of your fellow man.




Then I have bad news for you. Suggesting I'm rational is a surefire way to get kicked out of the local Young Democrats Club.




tazzygirl -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 11:03:42 AM)

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Then I have bad news for you. Suggesting I'm rational is a surefire way to get kicked out of the local Young Democrats Club.


You are very rational... in an irrational kind of way. [;)]




SternSkipper -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 11:08:19 AM)

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This just keeps getting better and better.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201202030008


Same guy who claimed there wasn't a relationship between Addiction and the 10s of thousands of Oxycontin found in his possession by police?





Trismagistus -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 12:26:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: Trismagistus

But Heretic, in case you haven't noticed, I'm extremist left wing psycho anarchist bigot with a hard on for a new civil war, are you actually trying to reason with me @_@ holy shit, no one's ever done that before. I actually would like to buy you a totally uncontaminated beer or beverage of your choice and treat you to dinner sometime as a friend. You see I don't believe half of the hate speak I spew, I'm just extremely angry with the world for having far too many people who lack common sense and so I've given up trying to speak reasonably with most people about these things, I am in my own way attempting to demonstrate how absurd it all is. So thank you, even if you continue to disagree with me your response speaks to me on a level most people don't even try, namely that of a logical rational human being who sees the virtue in equality and acceptance of your fellow man.




Then I have bad news for you. Suggesting I'm rational is a surefire way to get kicked out of the local Young Democrats Club.


I'm not democrat or republican, I have my own values, I'm actually quite disgusted with both at this point.




JanahX -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 12:49:40 PM)

He was way better when he was calling on everyone to support the congo LRA to help "christian soldiers in africa".




thishereboi -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 1:07:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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This just keeps getting better and better.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201202030008


Same guy who claimed there wasn't a relationship between Addiction and the 10s of thousands of Oxycontin found in his possession by police?




Yup, same one. Also the same one you claimed was dealing oxy. Have you found that link yet?




SternSkipper -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 1:40:01 PM)

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Yup, same one. Also the same one you claimed was dealing oxy. Have you found that link yet?


I am sorry that you can't be given a link WHICH SHOWS YOU the circumstances (provided MANY TIMES at this point) of the Limbaugh investigation and and then, using simple REASON (it's on wiki if you don't know what that is), extrapolate that if you or I or anyone else that wasn't very hooked up politically had thousands of Oxycontin removed from our homes by police. INVARIABLY, the charge would be "Possession With Intent Of Distribution". It's how the law WORKS.
Your Opiate-Soaked hero merely got the benefit of CORRUPTION of the local government which IRONICALLY was governed at the time BY THE BROTHER OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT THAT LIMBAUGH ACTED AS A PRIVATE SECTOR PUGILIST FOR.

Man, and you were doing SO WELL.





tazzygirl -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 1:41:17 PM)

You will learn.




SternSkipper -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 1:43:16 PM)

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I'm not democrat or republican, I have my own values, I'm actually quite disgusted with both at this point.


Explanations are a waste of time Dude.





thishereboi -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 1:44:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Yup, same one. Also the same one you claimed was dealing oxy. Have you found that link yet?


I am sorry that you can't be given a link WHICH SHOWS YOU the circumstances (provided MANY TIMES at this point) of the Limbaugh investigation and and then, using simple REASON (it's on wiki if you don't know what that is), extrapolate that if you or I or anyone else that wasn't very hooked up politically had thousands of Oxycontin removed from our homes by police. INVARIABLY, the charge would be "Possession With Intent Of Distribution". It's how the law WORKS.
Your Opiate-Soaked hero merely got the benefit of CORRUPTION of the local government which IRONICALLY was governed at the time BY THE BROTHER OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT THAT LIMBAUGH ACTED AS A PRIVATE SECTOR PUGILIST FOR.

Man, and you were doing SO WELL.




You claimed he was dealing and he wasn't. Now you can extrapolate all you want. It won't change anything.




slvemike4u -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 1:54:24 PM)

I don't know what Stern claimed or didn't claim.So no comment on that.
However anyone who knows anything about the criminal justice system and it's "war on drugs" knows that a count of conspiracy to distribute can be successfully brought and prosecuted based solely on weight/numbers/amount of said drug one possessed when one was busted .
The standard is a simple one...to wit: can a reasonable person be expected to personally use said amount of drugs...if the prosecutor can make the counter argument...your ass is in a sling...for a good long stretch.




tazzygirl -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 2:03:30 PM)

For those arrested for possessing a small bottle of prescription meds in the State of Florida, welcome to the wonderful world of “Trafficking in a controlled substance." We're going to explore how it is that a couple dozen pills can rack up prison sentences usually reserved for Colombian drug lords. There’s harsh punishment for prescription drug possession, and a simple review of the minimum mandatory sentences for possession of oxycodone, hydrocodone, or xanax, can leave a person wondering why addiction to pharmaceutical meds is subject to more mandatory prison time than child molestation or armed robbery. Let’s dig deeper to better understand the absurdity.

The minimum mandatory sentences for possessing hydrocodone or oxycodone increase as the weight increases, and all of the possession charges listed below are actually called "Trafficking" charges--due to the amounts involved. So, possessing 4 grams to 14 grams of Oxycodone or Hydrocodone carries a minimum 3 years prison, and a fine of $50,000. Possessing 14 grams to 28 grams, the mandatory minimum prison increases to 15 years, and the fine jumps to $100,000 (bear in mind that it only takes 23 hydrcodone pills to get a 15 year mandatory prison sentence!! More on this later…). At 28 grams to 30 kilograms, the mandatory minimum prison term is 25 years, plus a fine of $500,000.

The minimum mandatory prison sentences for pill possession are based upon the weight of the illegal substance, right? Wrong. The charge is based upon the total weight of the pill--each pill contains both an illegal substance and the weight of the legal substances contained within the pill (usually Tylonol, asprin, etc). And my friends, that's the main problem. Let's review why this is so unfair (unless, of course, you think 15 years prison is a reasonable punishment for possessing 23 hydrocodone pills).

THE CORRECT, SCIENTIFIC WAY TO WEIGH A SUBSTANCE....

Take an arrest for twenty five (25) Hydrocodone pills, marked “Watson 540”. These pills weigh 15.8 grams. Because this weight falls within the 14 grams to 28 grams category listed above, the minimum mandatory prison sentence for 25 pills is 15 years prison!

The question here is, “Did you REALLY possess that many grams of hydrocodone?” Scientifically speaking, NO. Here’s why. The 25 pills labeled “Watson 540” (light blue oval pill) are a generic form of Lortab, an opioid pain medication containing 10 mg hydrocodone and 500 mg acetaminophen (Tylenol). Remember grade school math taught us that 1000 mg = 1 gram. Thus, 25 hydrocodone pills multiplied by 10 mg of illegal substance per pill equals 0.25 grams hydrocodone, total. Wow, ¼ gram of hydrocodone is all that is—scientifically—possessed in 25 pills. ¼ gram is not even close to a trafficking amount of hydrocodone. As a matter of fact, to actually possess the 15.8 grams of hydrocodone in our example, you would need to possess 1,580 pills…..not 25.


http://www.jgcrimlaw.com/lawyer-attorney-1619199.html

Dont you just love plea bargains backed by lots of money?




SternSkipper -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 2:30:20 PM)

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You claimed he was dealing and he wasn't. Now you can extrapolate all you want. It won't change anything.


I CLAIMED he was the equivalent of a drug dealer it doesn't matter one fucking bit if he successfully sold ANYTHING. In a just legal system (Ruling out florida and of course Michigan, assuming of course you represent the viewpoint of anyone else from your state), he would have been charged as a drug dealer. So he is THEREFORE a DE FACTO DRUG DEALER, Excuse me REFORMED DRUG DEALER.
And I didn't say I have any need to extrapolate. I inferred you are apparently, after all the instances of you going all foamy mouth at my mere occasional mention of FATSO's drug offenses.
   I have a great laugh each time you pull this. Thanks BTW.
Here's a few links to mull over

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x953226

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98871,00.html

The Cops 1000s of miles away make humorous references to Rush's unique hobby:
http://www.yourct.com/2010/01/norwalk-police-arrest-drug-dealer/
http://www.druguseeducation.org/drug_dealers.htm



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/28/national/main1561324.shtml

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12536446/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/limbaugh-reaches-settlement-drugs-case/

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachpost.com%2Flocalnews%2Fcontent%2Fnews%2Flimbaugh%2F120503_limbaugh.html&ei=mKgtT9_BFMriggfvhNHGDw&usg=AFQjCNFmNuBZCSgmdmXZR7zeGGFKWWPUVQ&sig2=hNGpzLwRLH2GkoKzrDTcwQ

Limbaugh's ignorance continues to this day:
#1 Rush Limbaugh – The famous Republican mouthpiece and critic of lax drug enforcement laws saw how the other half lived when his own addiction to Oxycontin made front page news in 2003. Limbaugh admitted to the addiction on his radio show and then checked himself into rehab. According to reports, Limbaugh was being investigated by federal authorities after attempting to purchase OxyContin on the black market illegally. Although you would imagine that this brush with the law and with a serious narcotics addiction would give Limbaugh some perspective on drug issues, his rhetoric remained just as narrow towards addicts even after he sought treatment.

AND WTF IS UP WITH THIS????????????
IS THERE ANY .... I REPEAT ANY Reason a single human male is EVER in posession of 1000 (that's 1k, ONE THOUSAND, A GRAND) Unprescribed VIAGRA??????? THIS my dear woman, is a a) Possession of a drug with intent. Or b) A HUGE cry for help.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-tries-to-protect-fox-news-dana-perinos-delicate-feminine-sensibilities/




SternSkipper -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 2:54:32 PM)

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I don't know what Stern claimed or didn't claim.So no comment on that.
oHowever anyone who knows anything about the criminal justice system and it's "war on drugs" knws that a count of conspiracy to distribute can be successfully brought and prosecuted based solely on weight/numbers/amount of said drug one possessed when one was busted .


See the bold and red.... THAT is the point I have been making and the typing stewie avatar apparently CAN'T PROCESS even when you map quest it over and over again to her.
  I'm done the fat fuck has been caught red handed with drugs that are items of considerable value per/dose on the black market. In fact, if I were customs I would have NAILED THIS FAT FUCK TO THE WALL since there is a clear pattern at the point of the Viagra bust that demonstrates he is frequently in possession of salable quantities of drugs. They SHOULD have made an example of Limbaugh at that time, because he was obviously flaunting his political connections with the President at the federal authorities.


Russell Here Is POOR And He Doesn't Hav a National Radio Show ... So he only has 56 Oxys and look what happened to him:

http://www.capecodtoday.com/news/CWN/2011/12/17/barnstable-police-shut-down-oxycodone-1431

And Look here's law enforcement divvies them up when they do a big operation (similar numbers to what Limbaugh was in possession of )
http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/PurdueFrederickCo/59-exhibit6.pdf
Granted, the above were placebos ... Police apparently have a conscience, whereas Limbaugh doesn't and exposed domestic staff and guests to the REAL THING.

And since Oxys go better with guns, one has to ask if a guy like this dude only had 373 Oxys and was armed, how many cannons was Rush packin back at the ranch?
http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/drugs-handgun-seized-following-traffic-stop-hutch-new-rochelle
I could go on for months consider the scope of Oxycontin abuse in America, but you get my point.





Iamsemisweet -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/4/2012 5:36:41 PM)

Yes boi, I am sure this is a serious plan. Jesus.
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Can't say I agree about the 500, even I have been to that. But I was only there to get drunk and I never even saw a car. I think cesium at NASCAR events is a better plan

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ORIGINAL: Trismagistus

Solution, find a way to stop letting the right wing breed, recommended method would be small amounts of cesium in the drinks at the indy 500.



So you are not against him poisoning large groups of people, as long as he doesn't target anywhere you might be. And you say republicans don't care about others[8|]





thishereboi -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/5/2012 6:21:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I don't know what Stern claimed or didn't claim.So no comment on that.
However anyone who knows anything about the criminal justice system and it's "war on drugs" knows that a count of conspiracy to distribute can be successfully brought and prosecuted based solely on weight/numbers/amount of said drug one possessed when one was busted .
The standard is a simple one...to wit: can a reasonable person be expected to personally use said amount of drugs...if the prosecutor can make the counter argument...your ass is in a sling...for a good long stretch.


This is true, but it doesn't mean the guy they busted was dealing. It is just one of the charges they can throw at him because of the quantity. Skippy claimed he was dealing and I called him on it. Rush is a total asshat and there are a lot of bad things you can say about him, but dealer isn't one of them.




thishereboi -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/5/2012 6:26:01 AM)

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I CLAIMED he was the equivalent of a drug dealer it doesn't matter one fucking bit if he successfully sold ANYTHING.


http://www.collarchat.com/m_3747915/mpage_1/key_rush%252Cdealer/tm.htm#3748048

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

Rush Limbaugh is a Oxycontin dealer who takes pockets full of viagra on vacation to countries where he can have sex with minors. Guess you found yourself a role model there, eh sani?



Are you ever going to provide links to your bs or are we just supposed to take your word on that?

OP - Are you surprised?






Owner59 -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/5/2012 9:02:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Does anyone pay attention to what Rush says? Really?



Oh yes.......yes.....there are quite a few.The whacko half of the GOP and 100% of the leadership.

But only two or three come here for abuse.......[:D]

We miss you wilbie[8|] [:D]




Owner59 -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/5/2012 9:14:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I don't know what Stern claimed or didn't claim.So no comment on that.
However anyone who knows anything about the criminal justice system and it's "war on drugs" knows that a count of conspiracy to distribute can be successfully brought and prosecuted based solely on weight/numbers/amount of said drug one possessed when one was busted .
The standard is a simple one...to wit: can a reasonable person be expected to personally use said amount of drugs...if the prosecutor can make the counter argument...your ass is in a sling...for a good long stretch.


This is true, but it doesn't mean the guy they busted was dealing. It is just one of the charges they can throw at him because of the quantity. Skippy claimed he was dealing and I called him on it. Rush is a total asshat and there are a lot of bad things you can say about him, but dealer isn't one of them.



'but it doesn't mean"

Semantics.

The law rarely reads or defines in the way regular people talk and define things.

This is why Bill Clinton technically could say he "didn`t have sex with that woman" b/c the law defines "sex" as penal/vaginal intercourse,not oral sex.

Same with being a "dealer" or not.The law says if you have amounts more than the arbitrary "personal" amounts,it`s dealing.And you get charged with dealing whether or not you were caught red handed selling illegal drugs.

This is why we can technically call limbaugh a "dealer".....because he had dealer level amounts of illegal drugs.




VioletGray -> RE: Rush falsely claims there is a relationship between abortion with breast cancer (2/5/2012 2:19:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Then I have bad news for you. Suggesting I'm rational is a surefire way to get kicked out of the local Young Democrats Club.



Oh, I'd definitely say you're one of the most rational conservatives on here. You're just, y'know, wrong about everything! [sm=lol.gif]




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