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thompsonx -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 9:34:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Why do you need so badly to believe that confusion was the cause of Prop. 8 sailing to an easy victory 52% vs.48% is hardly sailing to an easy victory. Couple this with low voter turnout and get back to me with the percentage of the population of california that voted yes to say no to same sex mariage.

DaddySatyr -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 11:15:10 AM)
It would be interesting to know (No, I am not going to do the research) How many votes were cast on that issue. That would make the percentages mean more. 4% of 1,000,000 is a pretty good number of people. 4% of 10,000 is a lot fewer. Statistics lie and can be twisted to support just about everything. I've voted a time or two and and I wonder how many people just "flipped levers", right down the line. I will admit: with the exception of Governor and local Mayor, I sort of did that, the first time I was in a voting a booth (I hadn't "researched" all the propositions until I read them on the balloting information at the polling place). I am quite sure I voted the wrong way on an issue or two because (I believe) they are sometimes worded with mis-direction in mind. That being said; if you haven't taken the time to research the hell out of how the proposition that is so uber important to you is going to appear on the ballot before you get in your car to get to the polling place, then I would question: A) How important the issue is to you, in reality or 2) If you're lazy or C) if you should be voting, at all. If there were a proposition making ownership of all electric guitars illegal, you can bet your ugly ass I'd know *exactly* which lever to push weeks before I entered the voting booth. Peace and comfort, Michael

tazzygirl -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 12:02:55 PM)
Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008) Registered voters October 2008 17,304,091 http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ror/ror-pages/15day-presgen-08/hist-reg-stats.pdf

thompsonx -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 12:40:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008) Registered voters October 2008 17,304,091 http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ror/ror-pages/15day-presgen-08/hist-reg-stats.pdf There are more than 37 million adults in california so that means that prop 8 passed by a half million votes. What percentage of 37 million is a half million?

tazzygirl -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 12:45:56 PM)
No, not quite. There were only "Registered voters October 2008 17,304,091 " before the election... october 8th I believe was the date. The total population in 2008 was... 36,756,666 - Jul 2008 So, only half were registered voters. Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52%

thompsonx -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 1:39:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, not quite. There were only "Registered voters October 2008 17,304,091 " before the election... october 8th I believe was the date. The total population in 2008 was... 36,756,666 - Jul 2008 So, only half were registered voters. Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Do I understand you correctly that you want to argue over the difference between 36.756666million and 37 million?

Hillwilliam -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 1:41:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Do I understand you correctly that you want to argue over the difference between 36.756666million and 37 million? Well, hell, you do it all the damn time. Why shouldn't others?

thompsonx -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 1:53:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Do I understand you correctly that you want to argue over the difference between 36.756666million and 37 million? Well, hell, you do it all the damn time. Why shouldn't others? Cite please.

tazzygirl -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 3:03:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, not quite. There were only "Registered voters October 2008 17,304,091 " before the election... october 8th I believe was the date. The total population in 2008 was... 36,756,666 - Jul 2008 So, only half were registered voters. Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Do I understand you correctly that you want to argue over the difference between 36.756666million and 37 million? sighs you always have to be extremely difficult. Lets break it down so you can understand. The total population of California doesnt matter, Some are too young to vote. Some are ineligible to vote. Some arent registered to vote. 47.07% of the population of California decided for all of California. Out of the total population of California, 19.05% said yes to Prop 8. 17.42% said no to Prop 8. Out of the total registered voters Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Point is, less than half decided for all. Statistics sound great, until you really break it down.

thompsonx -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 3:26:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, not quite. There were only "Registered voters October 2008 17,304,091 " before the election... october 8th I believe was the date. The total population in 2008 was... 36,756,666 - Jul 2008 So, only half were registered voters. Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Do I understand you correctly that you want to argue over the difference between 36.756666million and 37 million? sighs you always have to be extremely difficult. Not to those who come to class prepared. Lets break it down so you can understand. The total population of California doesnt matter, Some are too young to vote. Some are ineligible to vote. Some arent registered to vote. The total population of adults in california is more than 37 million. None of them are too young to vote. How many are in that some who are ineligible to vote...I will give you a hint is a fraction of one percent so hardly relevant to your point. 47.07% of the population of California decided for all of California. No, the half million difference who voted yes to no same sex mariage in california dedided for all of california. Out of the total population of California, 19.05% said yes to Prop 8. 17.42% said no to Prop 8. Out of the total registered voters Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Point is, less than half decided for all. Which was and is my point that you seem so intent on disproving.

tazzygirl -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 3:44:18 PM)
[8\|] If you say so.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 3:57:52 PM)
28 million. Not all are eligable voters (Felons, non-citizens, etc.)

tazzygirl -> RE: CA Prop 8 ruled as unconstitutional! (2/9/2012 4:00:11 PM)
I agree Hippie. But the voters are still making decision for the population at large.

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